To wonder why Harry doesn't drop his titles now he's free of The Firm

[CateTown]

He and Meghan wanted the freedom to earn their own money and good luck to them there. He's confirmed two new roles and his new employers are introducing him as "Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex".

For his self respect, why doesn't he ask to be called Harry Wales or Harry Mountbatten Windsor. Then he'd know he's being hired for his skills rather than being used for his royal connections.

God these two are really the unwanted gift that keeps on giving.

He's using his title because he's a workshy entitled hypocritical buffoon who thinks that the world owes him a living for being born.

I agree that A levels grades (or lack of) are not a reliable indication of intelligence, intuition, business acumen. Ridiculous to insist they are.

However, welcome though you are Rousette, I hope your appearance on this thread doesn't get it deleted 😉

@Roussette

"So what?
I am sick to death of what is said about him. Not the sharpest lightbulb. Not the sharpest tool in the toolbox. Thick. Stupid. Ignorant. Not the sharpest knife."

Said in the context of him expecting things that others with his intellect and stupidity probably wouldn't expect, as well as behaving in a wholly vitriolic way. It is clear some of what he is saying are lies....ie over the racist aspect as even he and his wife can't get their stories straight which I would have expected them to going on international TV!

Ahhhh... OK... so... because I have a different opinion and I think it is very wrong to continually call another human being thick, stupid, ignorant, not the sharpest tool and all of that... I'm really not welcome am I ?!

Maybe posters should think more about what they post then.

Marie

There is no justification for continually calling someone stupid and thick because of his A level results. It's horrible.

It would not be allowed for any other famous person. But Harry. Because to some people he is fair game.

Actually Corbyn’s terrible Alevel results were often mocked on here. Although he generally isn’t considered thick. The problem with Harry is he hasn’t really shown any sign of intelligence to date. Not that it makes him a bad person but to be given so many honorary positions when the person appears to lack basic skills and intelligence is a joke.

A lack of basic skills.
No sign of intelligence.

OK.

@CateTown

Thanks, Katherine

I'm hoping (against hope) that Charles will decide not to be king, citing age but it would also avoid the Camilla problem. Then we could have a youngish King William and Queen Catherine who could wind the monarchy down thus saving George from his fate!

After the past year I think the Palace would be very wary of Charles exiting the Line of Succession. If he did and then something happened to William, under current rules around regencies/councillors of state etc. Harry could end up as Prince Regent for a young King George VII, which would cause a lot of practical and presentational issues with the way things currently stand. Prince Andrew is next after Prince Harry, which would be a lot worse for the Palace to manage.

The rules on this badly need updating.

I wouldn’t call someone thick because of their lack of academic achievements.

But to do that interview with their truths (and perhaps not the whole truth) was ill-judged.

Telling half truths or their truths is only going to make people question their motives more.

I don’t believe they are stupid but I do believe their actions have been.

I would welcome the monarchy being slimmed down. Archie should not be excluded as it stands but if they choose to slim down the monarchy then it would make sense - more so as his father has chosen not to be a senior royal.

That interview was not OW’s finest moment. And it certainly will not be looked on that pair’s finest moment either.

Then he'd know he's being hired for his skills rather than being used for his royal connections.

Ha ha ha ha

@MrsTulipTattsyrup

Did you say the same about Diana, Princess of Wales, after she was divorced and left the royal family? Do you feel that Edward VII should have rescinded his title of Duke of Windsor after his abdication?

She was the mother of a future king, and she was screwed by the RF, slightly different to these two!!

I'm really not welcome am I

I said you were welcome (not that I'm the thread police), I just hope the thread doesn't get deleted.

If it does that is down to MNHQ, not me. I don't have a magic button here in my kitchen. 😂

Yes, you said I was welcome and I thank you for that.
But if I don't agree with something and I want to post, I will, because that's what forums are about.....

So. Any more questions about royal titles/history? Any at all?

How can I get one? I quite fancy being a Queen. :)

(I am not from the UK originally and I always said to DH that if we ever move back to my home country i was going to add a random Countess to my name. Instant social climbing gratification). ;)

(Plus it would irritate my anti-monarchy Father no end. :) )

@SheldonesqueIsUnwell

I wouldn’t call someone thick because of their lack of academic achievements.

But to do that interview with their truths (and perhaps not the whole truth) was ill-judged.

Telling half truths or their truths is only going to make people question their motives more.

I don’t believe they are stupid but I do believe their actions have been.

I would welcome the monarchy being slimmed down. Archie should not be excluded as it stands but if they choose to slim down the monarchy then it would make sense - more so as his father has chosen not to be a senior royal.

That interview was not OW’s finest moment. And it certainly will not be looked on that pair’s finest moment either.

The difficult thing is that certain things, such as saying they were married three days before they were, shows them to be either liars or unable to distinguish the difference between a marriage and a rehearsal (odd since Meghan had been married before) which leaves kinder people, who don’t assume they are liars, questioning their capability and intelligence. In all honesty, if they aren’t bright enough to know the difference I’d question if they have the mental capacity to get married in the first place.

@halcyondays

All the monarch’s grandchildren aren’t entitled to be prince or princess, only those of male blood royals. Princess Anne’s children couldn’t have been prince and princess because of sexist rules. They could have had other titles as the Queen offered Mark Phillips a title when he married Anne but he refused it. They didn’t want their children to have titles.

I think the Queen could have given Beatrice and Eugenie’s husbands titles but she didn’t.

Archie when older would be the equivalent of B and E or Princess Margaret’s children. He’s not nearly as important within the RF as H and M seem to think.

The unique thing about Harry’s position in the family is that, prior to this whole fall-out, he was expected to be become more important once the Queen dies, as he’d now be the child of sovereign rather than the grandchild; whereas Anne, Andrew and Edward and their families arguably decline in importance. However, Harry’s ‘promotion’ is temporary. Whereas William is only ever going to get closer to the throne, once Charles does, Harry starts moving away. He becomes the sibling rather than the son of the sovereign and then, if he outlives William, the uncle. Who will care about him then?

As much as Andrew champions his daughters, they have always known they will only ever decline in importance. Harry expected to be central, at least for a while. Reality is now hitting home...

Harry and Meghan would have been central if they’d stuck around. But not their children when they grow up. Anne, Edward and previously, Andrew did royal duties but not their children. Andrew was supposed to want B and E to be given royal duties but it never happened.

Harry's way of raising money now is selling his name to companies who want to raise investment or bump their value before selling shares. This is unedifying in itself but is also raises the issue of hypocrisy (again), with Harry claiming to have had his consciousness of issues, such as privilege and race, awakened by his relationship with Meghan, yet still falling back on the same-old same-old when it comes to adding to his millions.

Not rtft but I don't think it's fair to say he has no skills. The 'royal' stuff is a skill in itself and he's also been in the army and very involved with Invictus and Sentebale.

@KatherineParr

So. Any more questions about royal titles/history? Any at all?

I have another question. You mentioned about Harry (outside chance) possibly becoming the Regent if something happened to PW and PG was under age.

is there anything preventing Catherine becoming Regent if it was widely recognised that she was a more steady head than Harry (or Andrew ) [shudder].

Catherine as Mother of the King I mean. I know she is not of the Royal Blood, I was just wondering how pragmatic things can be on occasion.

I don’t think think Kate can be Regent because they have to be in line to the throne. It normally goes to the person next in line. Hopefully they can bin off Harry and Andrew if needed and go to Beatrice.