Thomas Markle......Meghan's father.

[Tolkienista]

Don't know if anyone saw the interview with Thomas Markle on GMTV Tues morning. It depicted a frail, emotional man who desperately wants to reconnect with his daughter and see his grandson too. Yes his life is complicated and he alluded to this time and time again .

He repeatedly acknowledged he's done wrong, in the many media interviews he's given and what struck me was a man who is living a lonely life and may not have many years to live and reconcile the differences he and Meghan have.

My cousin taught Meghan in her high school in L.A. and speaking to her last night she recalls Thomas Markle as "a funny, generous, witty man constantly helping out with school plays and musicals. He was generous with his time and the teachers and students loved him, especially Meghan"

I can't see any hope of a reconciliation the way things currently stand.

No one gets to criticize Meghan if they agree if the royal family has every rights to cut off their own flesh and blood

But even if they disagree, you don’t criticize what Meghan decide to do. Just mind your own business and let them work it out themselves

Bit unusual but considering how dysfunctional both families seem to be, I'm not exactly surprised. But I don't think you can apply "oh my father is loud and boisterous" to the situation of someone who's had to cut relatives out. You can say you wouldn't do it but until you're in that situation, you can't know.
Fair enough but I think we'll end this conversation now. My DF is gone now and I miss him despite his faults. I regret mentioning him and feel very disloyal.

@newlabelwriter

So many aspects of the Harry / Meghan goings on make me angry but the idea that she should have to resume contact with a relative that she has no desire to do so is just cruel. If you’d have met my mother you’d have thought her a great mother, funny and personable but she wasn’t to me, at all. I cut her out of my life for years and I was the better for it. To have someone wheel her out and her to tell the world how sorry she was and for me to have to just accept that on face value - no way.

Families are so complicated and Meghan has every right not to have anything to do with him and that’s nobody’s decision except her own.

This 1000 times over. I could have written this about my own mother.

He also said Ged stop doing interviews when they started talking to him. To me that is blackmail.

What he should be doing is going underground, stop talking to the press and anyone else. He should rain in the bitch of a daughter (don’t know her name) that’s cashing in on who her half sister is and spouting all her crap about her sister that’s she has never had anything to do with. Then maybe Megan and Harry might start to believe he is sorry. Even then, they are fully in their rights to still not speak to him.

H went to the US and wanted to meet both Doria and Thomas. TM made excuses not to meet, but Doria was available.

Where's this information from? All the versions of this story I've seen said that palace staff encouraged H&M to meet Thomas after announcing their engagement and they didn't. Source please @Mummy195?

MM produced some txt messages in court that show that TM was supposed to come early and be set up and prepared for the wedding. The plan was for inmates to be driven to California and set up at a hotel, then fly to the UK. Be set up there and do the suit fitting etc.

Source for this too please? It sounds like a garbled version of what was in Finding Freedom, but you refer to messages in court. Not presumably from the summary judgement. You state a lot of things as fact when it's far from clear that they are.

H went to the US and wanted to meet both Doria and Thomas. TM made excuses not to meet, but Doria was available.

Where's this information from? All the versions of this story I've seen said that palace staff encouraged H&M to meet Thomas after announcing their engagement and they didn't. Source please @Mummy195?

MM produced some txt messages in court that show that TM was supposed to come early and be set up and prepared for the wedding. The plan was for inmates to be driven to California and set up at a hotel, then fly to the UK. Be set up there and do the suit fitting etc.

Source for this too please? It sounds like a garbled version of what was in Finding Freedom, but you refer to messages in court. Not presumably from the summary judgement. You state a lot of things as fact when it's far from clear that they are.

@derxa

Bit unusual but considering how dysfunctional both families seem to be, I'm not exactly surprised. But I don't think you can apply "oh my father is loud and boisterous" to the situation of someone who's had to cut relatives out. You can say you wouldn't do it but until you're in that situation, you can't know. Fair enough but I think we'll end this conversation now. My DF is gone now and I miss him despite his faults. I regret mentioning him and feel very disloyal.

Understandable. May he RIP.

@didofido
What "loving family"?
Meghan stayed with her her mother until she was 11. Then Thomas won the lottery. Meghan moved in with him.

She's not changed much. And we don't hear much of Doria now....

Just because she moved in with her dad doesn’t mean she stopped being raised by her mother’s family, including her grandmother who was very influential on her. MN really has a problem with seeing everything in absolutes. Moving in with one parent doesn’t automatically mean you cut ties with the other parent. She’s obviously closer to her mother too and has been for years before meeting Prince Harry.

We don’t hear much of Doria and her side of the family because they know how to keep their mouths shut and not show their whole entire asses unlike the trashy Markle side. Isn’t that what all you people keep harping on, “dignified silence”, or some other BS? Now that someone’s actually doing it you cast a suspicious eye and trash her because it doesn’t fit your narrative. Pick a freaking lane and stay in it.

The dad is becoming a media celeb in his own right

I'm sure TM and Samantha saw dollar signs as soon as they found out about M&H. I think they thought they were going to move into Buckingham Palace and become celebs. Well they've achieved one, in the tackiest way possible lol.

Isn’t this a common thing? Where children switch custody arrangements , the child stay with her mother for the first half of her life and father the second half. Sometimes it is ruled by the court and sometimes it is agreed by two parents so they don’t have to go to court and sometimes a child like to live with the other parent for awhile , nothing against the first one

[quote JingsMahBucket]@didofido
What "loving family"?
Meghan stayed with her her mother until she was 11. Then Thomas won the lottery. Meghan moved in with him.

She's not changed much. And we don't hear much of Doria now....

Just because she moved in with her dad doesn’t mean she stopped being raised by her mother’s family, including her grandmother who was very influential on her. MN really has a problem with seeing everything in absolutes. Moving in with one parent doesn’t automatically mean you cut ties with the other parent. She’s obviously closer to her mother too and has been for years before meeting Prince Harry.

We don’t hear much of Doria and her side of the family because they know how to keep their mouths shut and not show their whole entire asses unlike the trashy Markle side. Isn’t that what all you people keep harping on, “dignified silence”, or some other BS? Now that someone’s actually doing it you cast a suspicious eye and trash her because it doesn’t fit your narrative. Pick a freaking lane and stay in it.[/quote]
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@derxa

So what if Megan doesn’t want to talk to her dad. You know nothing of what’s happened and she has every right to cut him off if she feels that way. Fair enough but Meghan has cut two whole families off.

@derxa and she had every right to and was more than justified in doing so! You say it like it's a 'bad' thing or something? On AIBU I have read several people who are NC with BOTH their family and husband's family. 2-family dysfunction is more common than you think. Sometimes it's just the luck of the draw.

@didofido You think an 11 year old child can choose who they live with?

@derxa My DF is gone now and I miss him despite his faults. I regret mentioning him and feel very disloyal.

That's you. It seems you have been very lucky hence have no empathy or understanding for people who haven't had good parents. Many on this site have been horrifically abused by their parents. It seems imo very selfish and unfair of someone like yourself who has been very privileged, to attack those who haven't had it as easy as you have.

[quote Cokie3]@didofido You think an 11 year old child can choose who they live with?[/quote]
Yep. If that child is Meghan. She seems to have an ability to smell out "advantage to me"

@didofido Wow. I feel sorry for you. I truly do. To have so much prejudice and so much hate that you think a child sent away asked for it. You are an example of how irrational twisted people can become through hatred and prejudice. Twist anything to create a (false) narrative and argue around that basis as if it were real.

JingsMahBucket. you said it

We don’t hear much of Doria and her side of the family because they know how to keep their mouths shut and not show their whole entire asses unlike the trashy Markle side

@didofido Wow. I feel sorry for you. I truly do. To have so much prejudice and so much hate that you think a child sent away asked for it. You are an example of how irrational twisted people can become through hatred and prejudice. Twist anything to create a (false) narrative and argue around that basis as if it were real.

Thank you for your sympathy - so kind. Get real, you don't know that M is sweet, lovely and truthful. Any more than I do that she is a grifter. I don't hate her, never met her. But I hate what I can see that she is doing.

Bit unusual but considering how dysfunctional both families seem to be, I'm not exactly surprised.

I could be reading this wrong, but I thought that the references to "two families" referred to Doria Ragland's family, as the other one MM may (possibly) have fallen out with. Or is this supposed to mean the Royal Family?

I haven't heard anything bad about Doria Ragland's family. I did think it was strange that MM (apparently?) hadn't invited any other member of Doria's family to the wedding as well, or any friends of her mum to come with her. Doria must have found it stressful to be at the wedding with nobody at all from her family or anything like that.

@Kokeshi123

Bit unusual but considering how dysfunctional both families seem to be, I'm not exactly surprised.

I could be reading this wrong, but I thought that the references to "two families" referred to Doria Ragland's family, as the other one MM may (possibly) have fallen out with. Or is this supposed to mean the Royal Family?

I haven't heard anything bad about Doria Ragland's family. I did think it was strange that MM (apparently?) hadn't invited any other member of Doria's family to the wedding as well, or any friends of her mum to come with her. Doria must have found it stressful to be at the wedding with nobody at all from her family or anything like that.

I interpreted that post as being Megan having fallen out with the Royals and Markles, yes. Doria wouldn't cross my mind because afaik there's no issue there.

@Kokeshi123 there actually were other people from Doria’s family there like an uncle and other couple people but forget whom. Again though, they know how to keep their mouths shut and not embarrass themselves or their family member, Meghan.

[quote Cokie3]@didofido Wow. I feel sorry for you. I truly do. To have so much prejudice and so much hate that you think a child sent away asked for it. You are an example of how irrational twisted people can become through hatred and prejudice. Twist anything to create a (false) narrative and argue around that basis as if it were real.[/quote]
Before accusing someone of being prejudiced, look at your statements and make first a judgement about your own words you share back here.... you are accusing someone of feelings you are projecting yourself with your words in the response.

[quote JingsMahBucket]@Kokeshi123 there actually were other people from Doria’s family there like an uncle and other couple people but forget whom. Again though, they know how to keep their mouths shut and not embarrass themselves or their family member, Meghan.[/quote]
Shame that Oprah had to take the choir seat then, together with the very famous tennis player and other celebrities more worthy of the limelight.

@Coronateachingagain I have no need to, I am not the one projecting my bitterness, jealousy, racism, hatred or other faults onto others. I am defending the VICTIM. If you choose to defend the bullies and those who possess the attributes above, then you need to look long and hard in the mirror. I will neve apologise for standing up for the underdog or the victims of bullying or racism. I am proud of the stance I take.

@didofido My default is to not assume the worst of people. That's what you choose to do. And just what is Meghan doing? Calling it out? Standing up for herself? Speaking her truth after being abused for so long? Is the fact she is not suffering in silence what upsets you?

suffering in silence?
we'd be so lucky