Thomas Markle......Meghan's father.

[Tolkienista]

Don't know if anyone saw the interview with Thomas Markle on GMTV Tues morning. It depicted a frail, emotional man who desperately wants to reconnect with his daughter and see his grandson too. Yes his life is complicated and he alluded to this time and time again .

He repeatedly acknowledged he's done wrong, in the many media interviews he's given and what struck me was a man who is living a lonely life and may not have many years to live and reconcile the differences he and Meghan have.

My cousin taught Meghan in her high school in L.A. and speaking to her last night she recalls Thomas Markle as "a funny, generous, witty man constantly helping out with school plays and musicals. He was generous with his time and the teachers and students loved him, especially Meghan"

I can't see any hope of a reconciliation the way things currently stand.

I can't ever imagine cutting my dad out unless he physically beats me up, abuses me, sells me to pimps, beats my mum and my siblings out, makes us beg on the streets, cuts my organs out to give it to the organ mafias or steals from us to feed his drug habits that gets us into the vicious cycle of beating us up again, abusing us etc etc etc.
I wouldn't just cut out in those scenarios I would press charges!!

I thought he brought his dd up when the mom walked out on them both. He worked long hours to make sure she had everything she needed growing up. He made a big mistake, but he has apologised several times and when he had his heart procedure and was in hospital and could not fly to give her away she cut him out of her life. If my Dad had been in hospital after a heart procedure I would have postponed my wedding no matter how big it was until he was out of hospital and could come to my wedding. But Meghan tells us she is kind and compassionate all around the world, just not to her family or Harry's.

Meghan’s mother never walked out. It is just how it is arranged. Meghan and her mom may have thought it was time for Meghan to live with her dad.

Isn’t Meghan doing exactly the same as Thomas? Selling inside info about the Royal family. She wasn’t paid by Oprah for the interview but no doubt she has a way of cashing in on the publicity.

@dripfeeder

I don't agree with some of the views here. No matter what, he is her father. I haven't heard from him in a long time btw until yesterday I guess he was trying to respect her wishes. He knows nothing about the media, he isn't experienced with it. We don't know what the media said/promised him when they first approached him. My dad wouldn't know how to deal with media if he was desperately trying to contact me. He wasn't protected. He still thinks this is the best way. I feel really sorry for him.

Every family deals with some sort of toxic or dysfunctional elements in their families. I can't ever imagine cutting my dad out unless he physically beats me up, abuses me, sells me to pimps, beats my mum and my siblings out, makes us beg on the streets, cuts my organs out to give it to the organ mafias or steals from us to feed his drug habits that gets us into the vicious cycle of beating us up again, abusing us etc etc etc.

Not respecting her wishes. No one is giving him the time of day. He promised 30 days, but that 30 days depends on who will have him. He gets paid at least £16000 minimum for his appearances, so has found a nice little packet. I am guessing he divides up the money with his children as he does not need that much when he has around $5000 per month from his pension, living a moderate life in Mexico.

So you can add pimping your child out to media on your little list of vices.

A failed and dumb strategy because soon the media will have no use for him. He should have just latched on to MM and receive a stipend for life, he was fooled by the lump sum paid by the media.

No need to feel sorry for him, he refused protection.

The misogyny on this site is becoming stinky.

So assuming her father said Prince Harry told him “if you listened to me this wouldn’t have happened”. While the man is in hospital recovering from surgery.

Now, why wouldn’t anyone make similar assumptions that they do to Meghan and assume Prince Harry has a hand in her cutting off her dad??

Why is it not an option that they make those decisions as a team or that he might even be pressuring her to ?!

Why is it always the woman to blame !!

@DeepThinkingGirl

The misogyny on this site is becoming stinky.

So assuming her father said Prince Harry told him “if you listened to me this wouldn’t have happened”. While the man is in hospital recovering from surgery.

Now, why wouldn’t anyone make similar assumptions that they do to Meghan and assume Prince Harry has a hand in her cutting off her dad??

Why is it not an option that they make those decisions as a team or that he might even be pressuring her to ?!

Why is it always the woman to blame !!

I agree and it's something I hadn't thought of before. It's adding to my growing dislike of Harry.

I know his podiatrist and he told me that TM has the most beautiful feet (he is a foot model for lady feet stuff) and takes care of them really well.
He doesn't use gel nail polish AT ALL.

He also likes to dress up as a mouse and steal the bait from traps.

Put down the “Daily Star’ Dione TM only does the ladies feet thing the rest is sensationalist nonsense

Foot model for lady stuffs? He is a bit big to be a foot model ( unless he is modeling for people with fetish) especially someone with a heart disease (their feet get a little bit swollen)
He is probably trying to take care of his feet because diabetes and overweight can mess up your feet

@Tolkienista are you returning to your own thread?

I think history might have been different if Harry had met him before the engagement.

derxa

But why?! This is one mans word against another! How could you store that in your list of facts against someone that results in increasing your hate when you haven’t verified it or learnt the context of it?!

I was calling out the double standards of judging men and women when it comes to their in laws. Harry put no effort at all with her family and she obviously massively put effort with his.. yet she gets to be treated like someone who hurt her husband by alienating him from his family while he gets left alone.

The reality is we don’t know the story to both sides and we are using misogynistic toools to tear a woman down.

The likely scenario is that they’re a team and both decided on what’s best for their family and that we need to learn to respect their judgement on personal matters abs stop imposing our own speculations.

Who is not to say that the royal family told Harry to not engage with her father and they put pressure on her not to as well?! We hardly know whose behind what. There could be many explanations and we could hardly ever know the story. So how could anyone point any fingers

I used to be so impressed with mumsnet sense of critical judgement.. but I think when it comes to royalty that’s it, the sense of obligation towards royalty clouds the judgement of everyone.

I think that there were better ways to handle her father which would have also helped the Press coverage. I think they were badly advised to let this happen.

@DeepThinkingGirl

derxa

But why?! This is one mans word against another! How could you store that in your list of facts against someone that results in increasing your hate when you haven’t verified it or learnt the context of it?!

I was calling out the double standards of judging men and women when it comes to their in laws. Harry put no effort at all with her family and she obviously massively put effort with his.. yet she gets to be treated like someone who hurt her husband by alienating him from his family while he gets left alone.

The reality is we don’t know the story to both sides and we are using misogynistic toools to tear a woman down.

The likely scenario is that they’re a team and both decided on what’s best for their family and that we need to learn to respect their judgement on personal matters abs stop imposing our own speculations.

Who is not to say that the royal family told Harry to not engage with her father and they put pressure on her not to as well?! We hardly know whose behind what. There could be many explanations and we could hardly ever know the story. So how could anyone point any fingers

I used to be so impressed with mumsnet sense of critical judgement.. but I think when it comes to royalty that’s it, the sense of obligation towards royalty clouds the judgement of everyone.

I don't hate any of these people. I'm sitting on MN in between checking on my lambing ewes. In fact I think I'm getting more sense from them.

He is a bit big to be a foot model

I know! But he has teeny tiny size 3 feet that, as yet remain tainted by his heart problems. Heart problems that stem from all the chocolate and cheese he has raided from mouse traps over the years @StormzyinaTCup.

That should be untainted.🤦‍♀️

How do you come up with this stuffs lol

Jesus Christ, this is MN right? Land of the "I cut contact with my MILbecause she fed a 10 year old a bar of chocolate?" Just checking. If any place should be understanding about people going NC with relatives it's here, we're overrun with these stories!

And I say that as someone who cut out an immediate family member. Best decision I ever made. If he died, I'd throw a party. If I saw him homeless in the street, I'd walk right on by. Who the feck are we to decide whether or not Meghan should be able to set her own family boundaries?

I don't believe he ever had surgery, he was busted buying McDonalds the same day he claimed to have had heart surgery and there's no proof he ever had surgery. I think he made it all up.

All his children and grandchildren either are or have been estranged from him. Says everything. Even Meghan had periods of estrangement starting when she was at uni, it's not new.

He did cut a rather pitiful figure in that interview.

As it happens, I do have compassion for him, whilst recognising that he has not behaved well towards Meghan. My compassion stems from the feeling that he seems to be too weak to change and behave in a more honourable way, a way that would bring Meghan back into his life.

There are some sweet anecdotes from earlier days that suggest he was able to be a better Dad when he was younger.

It's easier for me, as an outsider with zero expectations, to accept his weaknesses and have some sympathy for him. Meghan herself will want him to be a Dad to be proud of and I do wish for both their sakes, he could raise his game a little!

Nasty self-aggrandising piece of work as far as I can see. Him and her sister - what a family!

I am not a Meghan fan after that interview but her dad is a bona fide weirdo and I wouldn't have him at my wedding either. Certainly wouldn't have him round my child. He's sold her down the river and if she was on MN everyone would say go NC. She reserves the right to have whatever kind of relationship with her dad that she wants

He is sorry, so sorry in fact, that he goes on the show of the man who maniacally hates his daughter with a passion and has harassed and bullied her....

Yeah, right. If he truly was sorry, there is no way on this earth in this lifetime or galaxy that he would agree to go on GMB and be interviewed by Piers....of all people.

@dripfeeder

I don't agree with some of the views here. No matter what, he is her father. I haven't heard from him in a long time btw until yesterday I guess he was trying to respect her wishes. He knows nothing about the media, he isn't experienced with it. We don't know what the media said/promised him when they first approached him. My dad wouldn't know how to deal with media if he was desperately trying to contact me. He wasn't protected. He still thinks this is the best way. I feel really sorry for him.

Every family deals with some sort of toxic or dysfunctional elements in their families. I can't ever imagine cutting my dad out unless he physically beats me up, abuses me, sells me to pimps, beats my mum and my siblings out, makes us beg on the streets, cuts my organs out to give it to the organ mafias or steals from us to feed his drug habits that gets us into the vicious cycle of beating us up again, abusing us etc etc etc.

@dripfeeder Your view is dangerous and harmful. Her father is a master manipulator and abuser. He sold out his own daughter again, and again and again, over and over and over, and still threatens to repeat it. He KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. He is an emotionally abusive narcissist. He is a maggot.

NO ONE needs to stay in contact with a parent that is so detrimental to their mental health. How about do a search on here for the But we took you to stately homes, thread on here and see the mental and emotional trauma and damage parents like him do? You are so ignorant and naive, and your view on this is incredibly dangerous and harmful.