Do you think Oprah didn't ask the right questions.

[Noidea2114]

Lots of subjects were spoken about but I felt that Oprah could have asked for further information.

What questions do you think she should of asked.

My question is to Harry 'why didn't you get Meghan help with her MH if you are a loving husband'

@Noidea2114

I've read somewhere that Meghan has kept the emails to prove that she wasn't a bully. But wasn't part of the recent court case that she didn't keep any emails she had deleted them all. If that's the case she could be incontempt of court.

Yes I didn't know this. However someone on another thread just said it. She told a judge she only keeps emails for a month. So she has no email evidence or didn't tell the judge the truth!

Said the night nanny was ‘irresponsible’ or some such nonsense. She would have been very highly trained with years of experience! Perhaps they just didn’t agree with her methods, or tried to tell her she wasn’t doing something right... very odd though isn’t it?! As if on a second night doing your job working for royals no less you’d be ‘unprofessional and irresponsible’

I think she said she emailed the HR department asking for help etc. Which sounds odd as not a member of staff.

However after thinking about it I have a theory. The teenage girls at school sometimes try and cover their tracks by playing the victim if accused of bullying.

What if Meghan has tried doing the same. If the emails are dated after the first complaints that could be the case. It would also explain why HR chose not to respond to her.

Ahh those kind of emails, gotcha!

@redspecial

Mrs Merton.

Does anyone else think, with all that's going on now, that aside from his petulant drivel about money and security, M left H when she took herself off to Canada with an "I'm off, up to you if you come with me" ultimatum. And that baby no 2 is a sticking plaster, just like Harry was?

Yes I thought that at the time. I think H was given an ultimatum. Me or your family. I have also wondered if Meghan suffered from post natal depression. It wouldn’t be surprising given that she’d had massive life changes and a huge family rift within a very short time frame. The descriptions of her crying whilst breast feeding rang a bell. I had a friend who lost her father to suicide whilst pregnant. She fell to bits after the baby was born and was behaving in a very similar way. It took her years to get back to normal. She had also moved countries and had a poor relationship with in-laws.

I think we all know there is not one email or text from whomever they are accusing showing them to be guilty of the many crimes they are accused of. There may well be texts and emails between them and their “friends” saying that’s what’s occured.

It’s just a silly way to try to back up what you’re saying. Like when people on here say “I’m a x” before spouting some nonsense. It’s a way to lend credence.

If there were emails or texts they’d be in the public domain by now. No doubt about it,

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

I think she said she emailed the HR department asking for help etc. Which sounds odd as not a member of staff.

However after thinking about it I have a theory. The teenage girls at school sometimes try and cover their tracks by playing the victim if accused of bullying.

What if Meghan has tried doing the same. If the emails are dated after the first complaints that could be the case. It would also explain why HR chose not to respond to her.

Maybe she emailed the HR dpt to get a budget. Technically HR would not be authorised to authorise that kind of expense? They are not "management" after all. You can see how conversations can be presented in different ways....

No she has said she asked the HR department for mental health help. However they ignored her requests. Well something roughly like that.

Given you are both presenting yourselves as advocates for mental health support and people knowledgable in this area, why should the public and charitable bodies work with you given apparently neither of you were able to access relevant support yourselves?
Do you not think that the sort of roles and platforms you seem to be seeking regarding mental health would be better given to those with a proven track record in this field?

There are so many sides to this, so many inconsistencies. We do not know if those extra comments have been edited out. If that’s the case it lost credibility.

I never expected Oprah to grill them but she didn’t pull up any inconsistencies at all.

Not to blame anyone but, I think Meghan was ready to tell her story but Harry wasn’t. Therefore it held the info back

Indeed surely Meghan could have spoken to someone anonymously at least on the phone, a private session with an American psychotherapist for example, she’d have just given a fake name surely, no one would have to know she was reclining on a chaise lounge at Kensington Palace at the time

I find it extraordinary that these two should be advocating for mental health. Good therapists are meant to have had their own therapy and addressed their issues before working with clients. Two people with disastrous family relationships on both sides and clearly suffering so many unresolved issues themselves should not be figureheads for any mental health charity. They need to go away and quietly work on themselves before trying to support others.

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

No she has said she asked the HR department for mental health help. However they ignored her requests. Well something roughly like that.

I think that they said that as she wasn't staff, they were unable to help. In other words "use the private doctors, midwifes etc that you have access to as a member of the Royal family. Undoubtedly the best medical staff available to anyone in the U.K., so why that was apparently a problem is a bit strange.

Great thread

I doubt there will be any other peace talks when it’s clear H and M are going to give a running commentary to whomever is their pet journalist at the time. I know stories are leaked from both sides all the time but this is different. It seems that H is comfortable with that Oprah interview and the fall out suffered following it and is expected his family to do all the giving and bending.

use the private doctors, midwifes etc that you have access to as a member of the Royal family. Undoubtedly the best medical staff available to anyone in the U.K., so why that was apparently a problem is a bit strange.>>

Archie ended up being born in America. His birth certificate proves it

Never mind, it was another form I was looking at

My point is and it is a stretch but makes sense of this issue. What if at the she realised the staff had complained about her behaviour. So was emailing HR not really to get help but to cover her own arse. If the emails are dated after the complaints I would doubt her version of events.

www.insider.com/buckingham-palace-removed-meghan-markle-name-archie-birth-certificate-2021-2

At least I know what happened to her passport ,they were updating it I don’t know how long it took them...

@Blueberries0112

use the private doctors, midwifes etc that you have access to as a member of the Royal family. Undoubtedly the best medical staff available to anyone in the U.K., so why that was apparently a problem is a bit strange.>>

Archie ended up being born in America. His birth certificate proves it

How? I thought that Archie was born at The Portland Hospital in London?

@GoLightlyontheEarth

I find it extraordinary that these two should be advocating for mental health. Good therapists are meant to have had their own therapy and addressed their issues before working with clients. Two people with disastrous family relationships on both sides and clearly suffering so many unresolved issues themselves should not be figureheads for any mental health charity. They need to go away and quietly work on themselves before trying to support others.

i agree , i doubt megan thinks she has any mental heatlh issues to be honest , but its very clear harry is a screwed up manchild who still in his mid thirties has problems dealing with his mothers death and his place in the hierachy of his family , he is the last person id ever want to talk to if my mental heath was suffering

Yes born at Portland blueberries said it was something she read wrong upthread.

@chaosrabbitland I watched 'The Body Language Panel' and MM's facial expression when she denied making Kate cry was a very soft quiet no, and she held Oprah's gaze for a long time, instead of emphatically saying "'NO!''. The panelists were saying that she's holding something back there. In this instance she knows that this is ''her truth'' and even as she's saying it she knows there's another side to that.

I think they had a difference of opinion, both were on their last nerve, and Meghan being less resilient cried first. Kate tried to smooth it over and Meghan accepted her apology. but even in the leather bound copy of My Truth meghan has to push away the self awareness when she tells this story.

That body language panel was fascinating if anybody is interested. It wasn't a basic ''take down'' of Meghan and Harry. They just talk about base lines and deviations and they notice things like Harry's foot bobbing more on the 'up' than on the down, which they agreed mean he feels optimism. He believes it will all be sorted out in the end. God love him, I'm not so sure.

@Netaporter I am late to agree with you here, but I also have to give my eyes a rub when people cannot see the strong resemblance between harry and prince charles, and that photo of the D of E there in the car, wow, they have the exact same face shape and smile. It's amazing that some people are so distracted by a bit of red hair!

It wasn't a fact-finding interview which is OK as long as don't treat what they said, therefore, as facts.