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What were Harry and Meghan hoping to achieve?

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HumousWhereTheHeartIs · 09/03/2021 10:34

This is an honest question not a chance to bash anyone. I'm curious about why Harry and Meghan would do this and what the consequences could be. They must have realised the massive fall-out this would cause. This could be the end of Harry's relationship with his family. But for what? Sympathy? Increased profiles? Honesty?

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CanadianJohn · 10/03/2021 03:52

The Toronto newspaper The Globe and Mail has an apt cartoon. It shows M and H being interviewed in front of a million camers, and saying "It's aways been about the search for... privacy".

I'm not sure if this link will work
www.theglobeandmail.com/resizer/8KxR36tvzHA-HayXZfIaP7CYZzc=/1020x0/filters:quality(80)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tgam/YA34C322RBG77H34HQGHIVYBBU.jpg

LemonSwan · 10/03/2021 03:54

On the contrary, I believe that she tried really hard to fit in. When it became evident to her that she couldn't, she didn't simply fuck off, she also made Harry see that there was a way out of this shit. She has provided that for him by her connections in the US.

I am sure she did, and she said she was welcomed by everyone. At the beginning she said it was the family she never had.

But at some point they have clearly decided to be combative rather than try to work through issues. I dont see this as positive. You shouldnt be dismissive of your partners feelings, but then you shouldnt try to rile them either. It seems to me like they have been doing a lot of mutual riling.

Blueberries0112 · 10/03/2021 03:59

It could be she just wanted to be with Harry. I mean just Harry as a person, not prince. And live their life that’s best for them two and their children

Insertfunnyname · 10/03/2021 04:06

They want to build their brand in America. They know that Americans will side with them because they don’t understand the culture/rules of the monarchy. In the U.K. we all know that Archie wouldn’t get the title prince - same as Zara and Peter and Eugenies children. He’s a GREAT grandchild of the monarch and not in the direct line.

But in america they don’t understand that. Meghan is building her brand as America’s princess.

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/03/2021 04:23

@Toilenstripes

For Meghan, as an American, it’s incomprehensible that she would have stayed silent. We don’t do that. Injustices are meant to be called out, and that’s what she has done. I don’t expect most British people to understand because bullying and gaslighting is so common here, and largely to blame for the mental health crisis in society.
It would have been ok, I suppose, had she just talked about her struggling with the family’s dealings with the press ie never complain, never explain and of her mental health struggles. But the character assassinations, the questioning of who’s the racist, the half truths and the down right lies (including possible misunderstandings, which should have been ironed out before airing). Those were awful. They were married 3 days in advance. Wtf?! No. They. Weren’t.

She seemed to not understand or forget that Kate had given birth about 3 weeks before the dress fitting and it is very likely she cried, that they both cried and the flowers were a peace offering rather than an apology. Whatever happened though, these should not have been leaked by royal sources, especially circa 6 months after the event... and whilst Meghan was pregnant. That was spiteful. Did she say this was a turning point for her? I think she did.

As for the comment about the colour of the baby, Harry said it was before they were married and I’m imagining the conversations were between Meghan and Harry. This is being completely ignored and a storm is brewing. That Harry can sleep at night knowing what he’s done to his family by endorsing this interview says more about him than it does about them. However, there is nothing to gain for them apart from fame and fortune.... a step closer to the White House, with a ringing endorsement from the current president.

I do hope, however, that royal sources (or if this was at K / W’s behest), they have learned something. Leaking stories are equally toxic... and they can’t beat Meghan. She will never stop.

Blueberries0112 · 10/03/2021 04:25

She is BUT She doesn’t really go out to make herself known. She is a bit low key. Megan knows what draw Americans and that interview isn’t it.

I still think it’s about trying to make it clear to everyone what’s going on and talk about mental health

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/03/2021 04:27

[quote CanadianJohn]The Toronto newspaper The Globe and Mail has an apt cartoon. It shows M and H being interviewed in front of a million camers, and saying "It's aways been about the search for... privacy".

I'm not sure if this link will work
www.theglobeandmail.com/resizer/8KxR36tvzHA-HayXZfIaP7CYZzc=/1020x0/filters:quality(80)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tgam/YA34C322RBG77H34HQGHIVYBBU.jpg[/quote]
No that didn’t work and I can’t find anything. Could you post a screenshot please?

AirBubbleMe · 10/03/2021 04:37

They want to gain some control of the narrative. And they have.

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/03/2021 04:41

I’ve just realised why Harry went along with this.

What Meghan wants, Meghan gets.

Running20 · 10/03/2021 04:45

They spoke up because they wanted to put their side of the story across. The fall out as people call it is only because for some weird reason, those supporting the Royal Family feel that the RF should never be questioned. For 4 yrs they have planted FALSE stories about Meghan and Harry. The public were not outraged, no one complained of a fall out either. But oh no, when they speak up for themselves, somehow that is so bad? If this was an organisation where an employee went on the record and mentioned these claims, people would be asking for an investigation. But because it's the RF, somehow it's not to be held to the same standard. Why??? And why are people so surprised at the possibility of a member of the RF being racist? colonialism, emperiorist policies don't exactly spell non-racist to me. As for the Queen to say recollections may vary, well, fair enough, is that also her defence when it comes to Prince Andrew? Oh no? We aren't supposed to talk about THAT? But Meghan allegedly bullied staff? Oh? The RF is founded on bullying, it's a known fact how Margaret, Charles and Anne among others have treated staff in the past. How come there was no investigation into those claims? Dignity in the work place, my a**. Meghan has been there for only 20 months and suddenly she's worse than those that have been there 70+ years? Hypocrisy MUCH!!

Running20 · 10/03/2021 04:48

@Insertfunnyname do you really believe that or have you read the Daily Mail so much it's stopped you from doing your own research? Surely you can't be that ignorant?

CanadianJohn · 10/03/2021 04:56

@mummyoflittledragon

Try this link to the editorial cartoons... it's the second one down

www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/gallery-editorial-cartoons-for-march-2021/

CanadianJohn · 10/03/2021 04:58

oops, that didn't work either... the Globe really has its cartoons well protected.

floweryscarf · 10/03/2021 05:00

@Insertfunnyname

They want to build their brand in America. They know that Americans will side with them because they don’t understand the culture/rules of the monarchy. In the U.K. we all know that Archie wouldn’t get the title prince - same as Zara and Peter and Eugenies children. He’s a GREAT grandchild of the monarch and not in the direct line.

But in america they don’t understand that. Meghan is building her brand as America’s princess.

She stated in the interview, quite clearly, that they were looking to change the rule whereby he would get the title of prince when Charles takes the throne. Did some of you actually watch the interview?
newstart1234 · 10/03/2021 05:10

She tried really hard to fit in for, like, a year 🤨. It takes longer for a kid to settle in school.

I though thank god, what a breath of fresh air when she came on the scene. Then she took his name, title and gave up her job for him. Hardly progressive.

I assume they did it for the publicity to get the deals they need to pay for the security because of the publicity.

Dizzybrunette445 · 10/03/2021 05:14

Let's not forget her full time job is a successful actress :) hashtag, just sayin.

icelollycraving · 10/03/2021 05:20

Most baffling thing was the chickens tbh.

Frazzledd · 10/03/2021 05:24

@IrmaFayLear

To move in Oprah/Clooney (or even Obama) circles you need to be rich. Not just very wealthy - seriously mega rich. These people have jets/extensive households/huge security teams. If H and M are going to be players on their scale they need a massive income stream.
Friend said this yesterday, very true
newstart1234 · 10/03/2021 05:25

The purpose will look different from the wider world to the U.K. because the British people have to give money and respect to these people who don’t earn it. Therefore of course they should toe the line, or else we’re just paying for these people to have a lavish lifestyle. But to the rest of the world they’re celebrities so should be able to ‘speak out’. Errr no.

cali2000 · 10/03/2021 05:33

Money and power

user1481840227 · 10/03/2021 05:37

Some of the grievances are reeling of entitlement. They knew Archie wouldn’t be a prince just yet.

The rules were changed before Charlotte and Louis were born which meant that they then became Princess and Prince, so they might have believed the rules would also have been changed for Archie also.

Frazzledd · 10/03/2021 05:44

@Dizzybrunette445

Let's not forget her full time job is a successful actress :) hashtag, just sayin.
Was she a successful actress 🤔? Didn't she come to the UK hoping to be on 'Made in Chelsea'?...

What is actually next for them? A Netflix what? Harry doesn't come across well at all (Corden interview was painful) - now they're just two people, struggling with RF fallout, living in the States...what are we going to be watching for the next year?

Meghan will do fine from this, Harry notsomuch....

NotSeenBulling · 10/03/2021 05:52

very tight lipped about her own family circus

Wouldn't you be with family treating her the way hers have done. Watch the vid where her father told her that for every thirty days she doesn't speak to him he would offer a press interview about her.

She has walked away from toxic people for her own sanity which is a healthy thing to do. Talking about them brings her down to their level.

rwalker · 10/03/2021 05:58

Made me feel really uncomfortable I think she wants Harry ostracised by his family and totally dependant on her .

Frazzledd · 10/03/2021 06:01

@rwalker

Made me feel really uncomfortable I think she wants Harry ostracised by his family and totally dependant on her .
I agree, he's definitely in her house now- and does not look comfortable at all...