What were Harry and Meghan hoping to achieve?

[HumousWhereTheHeartIs]

This is an honest question not a chance to bash anyone. I'm curious about why Harry and Meghan would do this and what the consequences could be. They must have realised the massive fall-out this would cause. This could be the end of Harry's relationship with his family. But for what? Sympathy? Increased profiles? Honesty?

Attention
Fame (more if possible)
Money
Brand Awareness
and a platform to trade off

Harry is going to become a pathetic figure, like his great-uncle who abdicated, cut off from the RF, rootless, trying to capitalise on his name.

@TonyGates

But he was given a title! They didn't want it. Talk about twisting the truth.

He was given the title he was always going to be given, irrelevant of who his mother was. If he’d married Cressida bonas, that was the title Archie would have got. That’s what they failed to mention.

She also lied.. she said the conversation regarding skin colour was when she was pregnant.. when harry came on he said that the conversation was whilst they were just dating so no baby even thought of and it was someone wondering what their children looked like.
Those are two completely different scenarios imo.

I wonder what will happen for Archie and the new baby in years to come. They might feel very sad not to have contact with their grandfather, cousins and other relations in the future. We all feel sorry for the Queen that she will not meet them but imagine if you felt your parents had prevented you developing the relationship with such an enigmatic and wise great grandmother.
Harry and Meghan will become an irrelevance to the Royal family before too long. Meghan is to Prince Charles as Commander Tim Lawrence is to the present Queen, Archie is the equivalent of Peter Phillips, they just get on with their lives without any drama. ( I hope I calculated that correctly.) We can all see from old newspapers and films how Princess Margaret was in the thick of things in the royal family as a young woman, but far less central as the Queen married and had children herself. Harry is approaching middle age and losing what hair and looks he had in the first place, Meghan is not the young woman she is often spoken of being. There will be new and more interesting celebrities along soon. As they used to say, yesterdays newspapers tomorrow's chip papers.

Sorry, *what their children would look like

I did feel sorry for her. And for him, he seemed like a pathetic little boy. Though absolutely agree, he should have done more at the time - especially with regards to getting her help for her suicidal thoughts.
I didn't like the use of the word 'educate' regarding his father - very patronising, regressive-left speak. Nor Oprah's closing 'you have your fairytale ending. Would you say you saved him?'. Well...pretty sure it wasn't HIS fairytale ending and saved is a stretch! Rather embarrassing moment.
Don't blame them for wanting to counter all the falsehoods.

I'm happy to listen to what black women are saying, and what I've heard is yes racism is very real and happening in the UK. But she married into the institution that pretty much created colonisation quite happily (and I think despite never ever googling anything about the RF EVER she would still have an inkling about colonisation and what it meant for slaves and descendants of slaves even in her birth country) and it was OK until the money stopped when they moved away. Until then, no complaints and they didn't take up the offer of freedom from the start but no paid for wedding and so on. Now a rumour of racism either before they married, or when she was pregnant, by someone but not the ones with the power right now, someone....else. It is really obvious that racism and misogyny in the press happened as it always does so this vague but very damaging allegation against the royal family is too little too late for me. I think they should have focused on how the RF didn't push back against racist and misogynist press pieces which was indirect racism from the RF as they didn't defend her. Instead of the vague allegation.

Attention

"Oprah: You certainly must have had some conversations with Harry about it and have your own suspicions as to why they didn’t want to make Archie a prince. What are . . .  what are those thoughts? Why do you think that is? Do you think it’s because of his race?

Meghan: (Sighs)

Oprah: And I know that’s a loaded question, but . . . 

Meghan: But I can give you an honest answer. In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time . . .  so we have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security, he’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.

That could be read as H&M having the conversations themselves!

Whoever told them that he wouldn't be a Prince or given security could be an aide!

@NotSeenBulling

very tight lipped about her own family circus

Wouldn't you be with family treating her the way hers have done. Watch the vid where her father told her that for every thirty days she doesn't speak to him he would offer a press interview about her.

She has walked away from toxic people for her own sanity which is a healthy thing to do. Talking about them brings her down to their level.

But she’s happy to assassinate Harry’s family who actually behaved with decency towards her. And she’s very happy to encourage H to cut all his ties and ruin his relationships with his own family.

I think they did it because they feel wronged by the press and the royal family, and they want to break free and live life on their terms. They're taking back their power. As someone who comes from a dysfunctional family, I can understand it.

Harry and Meghan clearly didn't get their stories straight.

It was a two hour tiny violin pity party of so say =disliking the Royal Family but wanting Titles

What hypocrisy.

I'd not want a ''Title'' from a family I disliked, but over in America, titles can be cashed in on.

It was a puff piece to promote themselves. Harry looked glum and uncomfortable.

@Impatiens

Harry is going to become a pathetic figure, like his great-uncle who abdicated, cut off from the RF, rootless, trying to capitalise on his name.

They should have shipped him off as Governor of the Bahamas or equivalent to keep him from giving indiscreet interviews.

Ordinarily they should have sorted out their issues privately. If William (my money's on William) had commented on the skin tone of any future kids they would have, he should just have pointed out there and then that he wasn't standing for that kind of comment, it's not funny, it's tasteless. Between brothers (or father/son), that should have been the end of it. To take that to the media is unforgivable in my book. I think his family must be disgusted with him and their relationships will never come back from this. It can only be because they want the publicity and to build brand.

@VanillaIce

The glee with which she told the story about the secret wedding (that wasn’t) was particularly distasteful. All the people who lined the streets, threw parties, sat on their sofas waving flags and wishing them well - not to mention the hundreds who attended the wedding. Was she really laughing at all of them and saying “ha ha, fooled you.”

Not classy.

Yes I was astonished that she doesn’t seem to see how insulting that was. Plus she dropped Welby in it. He was appointed by the Queen I think. Imagine how she felt about being duped by him in this way and how embarrassed he must have been by her ‘revelation’ that he had been complicit in creating a false narrative.Then it turns out it wasn’t a marriage at all, but a rehearsal. If M misunderstood what was going on there, what else did she misunderstand? She has no empathy for how her actions impact others.

It is clear to me that she wants protection for Archie and raising it now because she has a baby girl coming and she is feeling frightened of what the world are going to do to scrutinise their baby and they feel like this is the royal family’s chance to do right by them and not let them down like last time.

They had a choice. They could have stayed put, kept their heads down and carried on working in which event they'd have received adequate security and the chances are that the papers would have lost interest. That's roughly what happened with Princess Anne: I can remember well when she was the tabloid's hate figure, but ultimately they realised she was just inoffensively getting on with her job and working bloody hard and perceptions changed dramatically.

But they chose to fuck of to another country, leave all the RF work behind, and try to make a fortune out of Harry's connections. And they still expect to get exactly the same benefits out of being royal. It's like leaving your employment and then moaning that you have to give he company car back.

@Toptotoeunicolour

Ordinarily they should have sorted out their issues privately. If William (my money's on William) had commented on the skin tone of any future kids they would have, he should just have pointed out there and then that he wasn't standing for that kind of comment, it's not funny, it's tasteless. Between brothers (or father/son), that should have been the end of it. To take that to the media is unforgivable in my book. I think his family must be disgusted with him and their relationships will never come back from this. It can only be because they want the publicity and to build brand.

Yes , I agree.

I've been very unimpressed by the failure of the Archbishop of Canterbury to comment.

Her comment about the wedding was sticking her finger up to the British people. Not nice at all.

I think they did it because they feel wronged by the press and the royal family, and they want to break free and live life on their terms

How is it living life on their terms to moan that they aren't getting more money from Harry's family?

@Toptotoeunicolour

Ordinarily they should have sorted out their issues privately. If William (my money's on William) had commented on the skin tone of any future kids they would have, he should just have pointed out there and then that he wasn't standing for that kind of comment, it's not funny, it's tasteless. Between brothers (or father/son), that should have been the end of it. To take that to the media is unforgivable in my book. I think his family must be disgusted with him and their relationships will never come back from this. It can only be because they want the publicity and to build brand.

Agree totally.

At College, DS and a young woman dated, and my friend at the time said ''Oh you'll have Mixed race grandchildren!''...I told her right away that was a ridiculous comment... I can't believe Harry wouldn't have had a reaction at the time and called it out.

“Ordinarily they should have sorted out their issues privately. If William (my money's on William) had commented on the skin tone of any future kids they would have, he should just have pointed out there and then that he wasn't standing for that kind of comment”

So no biggie that the future king of UK is racist then. Just a private matter, eh?

I wonder what will happen for Archie and the new baby in years to come. They might feel very sad not to have contact with their grandfather, cousins and other relations in the future.

I think they might feel sadder if they feel pushed away for their mixed heritage 😒. It’s about damage limitation, no one is claiming this is ideal for anyone

Lindy2 Agree completely!

The ''Nya Nya nya..Fooded you ! We were married in secret '' was said with such obvious narcissistic glee.

I feel they ought to repay the cost of that obscenely expensive wedding that the British People paid for.

Of course it wasn't a true wedding, but a mere rehearsal.

Meghan and Harry come across as deeply shallow, entitled and unlikeable.