What were Harry and Meghan hoping to achieve?

[HumousWhereTheHeartIs]

This is an honest question not a chance to bash anyone. I'm curious about why Harry and Meghan would do this and what the consequences could be. They must have realised the massive fall-out this would cause. This could be the end of Harry's relationship with his family. But for what? Sympathy? Increased profiles? Honesty?

Meghan said she wasnt paid for the interview 🤔

@Turth that was a stunt by PM as he's going to be working with Rupert his mate and he's still a journalist with DM spewing his rubbish there and being paid lots of money

@isitfridayyet1

This thread is full of so many hateful people! Wow.

Totally agree with this.

[quote isitfridayyet1]@Flyingdr you amuse me most with the term 'woke' as now that is used as an insult to people who have a shrewd of empathy for others. It is also a term used by racists to denigrate people who support and stick up for people of colour so thank you for outing yourself. Regards, Mrs Woke lol[/quote]
No you're wrong on this one. Woke does not suggest empathy. It suggest wanting to be seen on social media as having empathy. I don't consider myself woke but have been campaigning against racism as a young teenage since the late 1980s and supporting refuge related charities throughout the 90s. Not saying that to get a nice badge just that woke is more bandwagon jumping, social media virtue signalling than personal responsibility and empathy.

Woke is a virtual badge the rest of us are just decent human being.

Meghan said she wasnt paid for the interview

she also said that her son wasn't made a prince due to the colour of his skin and that they got married just the 3 of them - all fabrication of events

they did that interview to make money - that doesn't mean they were paid directly for the interview, thats 2 different things

Ok. I believe everything she said but I can't help thinking.....so what?

Why should I care quite honestly? She's a D list celebrity who married a less than intelligent relation of the Queen. They said they don't want anything to do with their duties. So what is everyone getting excited about?

Money.
They are now two of the most talked about people in the universe, you can’t buy that sort of publicity.

Think of all of the deals they can get on the back of this, Netflix will be small change.

Woke does not suggest empathy. It suggest wanting to be seen on social media as having empathy.

That’s not what Woke originally meant, but that’s what it has come to mean. Which is part of the problem.

Black activists coined Woke as a positive thing. Then it was quickly redefined to be an insult. Which is telling.

@ivykaty44 I can promise you it was far from a stunt and he spent the rest of the day in emergency meeting but when shareholders got involved his fate was sealed. I was most interested in the fact that so many of the employees of the show were delighted to see the back of him, he was not a good person to work with.

So much shit is printed about Meghan, a lot the Royal family could have defended her against but they chose not to, so she defended herself.

Doria Loyce Ragland (born September 2, 1956)[1][a] is an American former makeup artist, business owner, yoga instructor, and social worker who worked in the mental health sector from 2015 to 2018

When you work in MH you get a lot of training. Why wasn't Doria called on to her Meghan?

I think given how much complaining there was that daddy won't bank roll them a fairly large motive must have been financial. Plus they want everyone to like them and both have such significant emotional struggles that they can't accept that not possible and that the interview will have made a large percentage of people dislike them even more.

Harry and Meghan are both dysfunctional people who bring out the worst in each other. When the divorce happens what is Harry going to do? He will want to come home but he may have burnt his bridges with his family.

I don’t expect most British people to understand because bullying and gaslighting is so common here, and largely to blame for the mental health crisis in society.

Pretty sure both mental health problems and suicide are worse in the States, TBH.

Firstly, I'm a keen republican and would like to see an elected HOS rather than a monarchy.
However, I felt H&M were vilified by the press. Lots of examples where Kate and Meg had done similar things, K was praised but M was slated. Lots of very thinly veiled racism around too.
I thought the interview was a good chance for them to set the record straight. I've always thought the RF was racist to some extent going by the comments made in public, perhaps worse behind closed doors?
It's a mess but I feel the queen has just brushed it under the carpet along with lots of other problems.
Just my opinion!

@RomeoLikedCapuletGirls

Woke does not suggest empathy. It suggest wanting to be seen on social media as having empathy.

That’s not what Woke originally meant, but that’s what it has come to mean. Which is part of the problem.

Black activists coined Woke as a positive thing. Then it was quickly redefined to be an insult. Which is telling.

No, woke was coined way back in the 50's by black activists- it only became a term of disparagement in recent years when we see the likes of 'activists' putting a black square on their insta and nothing else, and thinking they are so much better than everyone else for doing so.

Anyway, a bit off topic, sorry

Money and attention, anything to whip up interest with future sales and deals in mind. Who makes a damning allegation like that but then refuse to name them. A person who wants to make more mileage that's who!

Meant to add, they should have said who made the comments. My money's on Charles.

Meghan wants a Kardashian like career. Harry has just been triggered by her, not intentionally but she's certainly using it. It's really disgraceful what they've done.

H and m have been badly treated by the press and the r f. I’m sure they are not with out fault themselves. However at least the interview and fallout should clear the air. I don’t think racism should be swept under the carpet

You hear people say about the royals, "well, if they dont like it, they can leave" so that's what they did.

Now they are out of it, they can put their side across.

I actually think Prince Andrew has been slammed in the press. I’m not really seeing much difference here. He and Fergie were criticised all the time. He’s done a disastrous interview which proved keeping quiet was the better policy.

I dont think its comparable. I remember Fergie being hugely criticised for her weight, what she wore, embarrassing behaviour, embarrassing interviews, adverts and deals after she left the RF etc
Prince Andrew should be held to account and I dont (although I dont claim to read all the papers!) see anywhere near the same amount of criticism for him over much worse (criminal) allegations. He is accused of sleeping with under-age girls and being involved with sex trafficking. MM is criticised for eating avocados and not standing outside for a photo op, hours after giving birth!!

@PintPot

For Harry, I think it's fundamentally about his mum, and driving what he sees as a sword of justice into the British press*. Everything else is collateral/justification.

• Just the British press, mind. Not any of the European/US tabloids that also bought the photos.

If so, that does seem to show pretty appalling judgment, given the absolute field day the likes of the Mail have had with the story.

It is telling that instead of actually talking to the people they have issues with, instead they go on international tv to trash them beyond all belief. The Queen's reply was brilliant, esp the 'loved family members' - but if I was any of the royal family I'd never speak to them again - who would want their words to get twisted beyond recognition and presented to the world on the next Oprah show?

Money to pay for security for Archie