Abolishing the Royal Family

[FeelthewrathofthesuperRad]

Anyone else in favour of it?

I’m not entirely sure what their purpose is either.

I always wonder how this would work in reality. We'd need to wait for the Queen to die presumably, and it's likely Phillip will go before her.

So we wait and work out what money is actually hers to pass on to the kids / grandkids etc.

Camilla presumably has a none royal residence anyway so Charles could retire to there and potter round the garden for the next few decades. The Press might pap him going to the local garden centre but probably not much else. Maybe he'd do a couple of documentaries with David Attenborough or the like. Anne and her kids lives would continue as is. They could pay rent on the properties of they're not actually private. Same for Andrew and Edward and the kids. They'd need to get jobs but could prob use their links. The girls are married off fairly well and Edwards kids will be expected to do the same / work. Press interest would be celebrity level but would fade

But could Wills really just go back to his search and rescue job and Kate be a SAHM / do a bit of photography on the side with no security and no press intrusion? Would they still be a target for the Press / extremists / etc?

Would there be enough "family" money to keep at least the current generation of adults on their existing lifestyle?

I think after the first few years they'd just become like "celebrities" so Kate night bet a cooking show or Wills would go on Graham Norton to plug his latest movie.

PurpleDaisies So barely any benefit at all then to my mind. I don't care that royalty is hereditary, I wouldn't want the role. They don't enjoy some of the freedom other people take for granted. They've got the benefit of huge wealth but not the freedom to spend it however they like. They're under constant scrutiny and have no freedom of speech. They live the luxurious life of a museum piece. That's kind of why Meghan has noped her way out of there.

I didn't say crisis, I said instability. It would be naïve to think we could transition to a republic without any. On balance, especially given everything else going on at the moment, the risk/benefit just doesn't stack up for me. Not even close.

So barely any benefit at all then to my mind.

It’s so depressing that people aren’t bothered about choosing our head of state in such an outdated and anti democratic way.

I’ve not been sold on any benefit of the royal family yet.

Is Andrew still 8th in line to the throne?

I know it’s very unlikely he will ever get anywhere near it but in theory he could, and there would be little anyone could do to change it.

In today’s society the idea that someone is
superior based on parentage and no other attribute is preposterous. Nothing against any of them as I don’t know them but if I met Kate (just as an example) like hell would I curtsy - why should I? Wonder if there’s a law against that.

However I think unpicking it would take a lot more thinking about and planning than just replacing with a head of state. Also if the Queen gave up some of the royal palaces, UK tax payers would still probably have to pay for upkeep of the buildings somehow even if it was used for function as now - unless we want to sell it to a rich Russian oligarch which would be somewhat ironic.

That interview has caused trouble a’ mill for sure.

They bring tourists here so economically they are a net contributor.

They do charity work, they visit places to lift sprits.

I don't love or hate them, I'm alright with them being there.

On that basis, I wouldn't vote to abolish them.

Scaled right down..

Totally in favour.

Outdated concept, no longer relevant. What value to they add beyond tourism?

I don’t buy the lifting spirits by visiting charities etc. What difference would it make if they weren’t here?

No but you won't get a realistic answer on here as it's full of left wing woke folk.

No. All this shit stirring has made me realise how much of a royalist I am and I can’t quite believe I’m writing that.

There is something special about having the queen, the castles and the ceremonial things in place that we do.

@Crankley

No but you won't get a realistic answer on here as it's full of left wing woke folk.

Mumsnet is pretty politically centrist by most measures, and these days it has a reputation for being the complete opposite of 'woke', given the opinion of many of its users that male-bodied people on 'girl mode' aren't in fact women and should not be imprisoned with women, legally allowed to access women-only spaces or compete in women's sports or be eligible for women-only shortlists and prizes, or to have their crimes counted as having been committed by women.

No.

The monarchy is one of the few things that gets the country noticed internationally. Our world-beating industry does not, and our universities are becoming a joke. It is unique.

I do wonder about some of the bigger landowners.

I also occasionally wonder if the likes of MM and TV series such as The Crown are a republican attempt to undermine the monarchy.

I also occasionally wonder if the likes of MM and TV series such as The Crown are a republican attempt to undermine the monarchy.

It's doing a pretty good job of undermining itself, don't you think, without Wallis Simpson, Camilla Parker-Bowles and Megan Markle, not to mention Peter Morgan, having to be imagined as hired troublemakers secretly in the pay of international republicans.

Not just the royal family but all titles and the House of Lords. The royal family isn’t the biggest problem in the UK, it’s the aristocracy in general.

They bring tourists here so economically they are a net contributor.
There is absolutely no evidence to support that assertion. Endlessly repeating something doesn't make it true. The monarchy are not politically neutral as they lobby and interfere constantly behind the scenes in their own interests.

@ekidmxcl

They bring tourists here so economically they are a net contributor.

They do charity work, they visit places to lift sprits.

I don't love or hate them, I'm alright with them being there.

On that basis, I wouldn't vote to abolish them.

Yes, thank goodness for Louis XXV of France, or where would they be? Nowhere! Why bother even going.

I'm on the fence with this, what makes Britain is the Royal family rho, as much as we dislike them at present it would be strange for Britain not to be a sovereign country, we could end up like America and have cockadoodle presidents that rant on twitter
It's a double edged sword really
I agree Andrew and Harry should both be stripped of titles, if the queen won't, I'll be my left arse cheek Charles would in a minute

The tourism thing has always puzzled me .... what tourist has ever clapped eyes on a Royal 😂😂😂Tourists are welcome to tour the empty Palaces , watch horses marching up and down. In fact they could pay us to do this.

Tourists (and Brits) would flock to to see the inside of the palaces even more.

HoS should be elected on merit not just by being born into it. Imagine Andrew or Harry ended up a King??

No way a HoS would be subsidised at the same level as the royals and their families and castles. I also am shocked that taxpayers can't be bothered to elect a HoS and just accept what it costs, talking of inertia

As for footing the covid bill, inheritance tax on royals would go a fairly long way to meet that.

Yep! Abolish it. Take away all of the land and property.

I'm disgusted that they cut off Prince Harry. How can they claim to care about him if they did that? Charles should not be King. He's allowed to cheat on his wife and still be King. His brother is allowed to fraternise with a peadophile and is not cut loose. But Harry, doing his best by his wife and child? No, can't have that! You've shamed the monarchy. Hypocrites!

What on earth were they thinking allowing a 12 year old boy to walk behind his mother's coffin in front of the whole world. I imagine that he would have been told to hold it together too. Then they wonder why he has had mental health issues. It's disgusting!

How anyone can defend the royal family after watching that interview is beyond me.

Yes abolish. It's a miserable existence. One thing Harry was right about.

I used to think yes abolish what’s the point in them just a big waste of cash but I’ve done a total 180 on it. Though a bit of modernisation would be good. But I think it’s a shame to tear up traditions built up over centuries because once something is gone, it’s gone. My other homeland did away with its monarchy and walking through those empty palaces that had been reclaimed I saw sadness and loss but nothing actually gained from it. Now I’m old (in my thirties) I feel much less revolutionary and I just value shared traditions! I think they make life interesting. What’s the point in anything after all?

I think it should be abolished for the mental health of its inhabitants.

It's clearly very, very bad for those in the firing line who face obstacles in living their lives and making their own choices re: work, family etc that most people would find intolerable.

Get shot of it now so that the next generation can find their own place in the world.

They bring in a large amount of money. We would all have to pay more taxes if we abolished them.