So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

The bit that i picked up on was towards the end when they were both stressing how they’d both done everything to protect the institution etc .... after just giving an interview that will be so damaging to the monarchy that the repercussions will last for years - the irony.

As a mixed race person myself, I entirely get that Meghan was hounded. At the time, people said she wasn't 'suitable' because she was a divorcee, because she was an actress, because she was American. In reality none of this really counted. She was unacceptable because of her race. End of.

I believe that they believe what they said is the truth, whether it is or not, who knows?

They haven't really moved on since the 1930s have they? Wallace Simpson was a divorced American, and wasn't mixed race and look how that turned out. Although Edward VIII being a Nazi sympathiser was probably partly why they needed to get rid of him, and Wallace provided them with a good excuse.

I believe them. Anyone who is old enough to remember how Diana was briefed against by the palace machinery won't be surprised by any of this.

Nope, load of bollocks

@PicsInRed

Yes.

I also believe they've held some back.

Because Meghan wasn’t getting paid for this one.....

OP, totally agree about her repeatedly referring to Sarah Fergusan as Fergie, extremely odd....
Also can anyone explain why Beatrice & Eugenie as known as princesses? I read previously Ann didn't want Zara & Peter Phillips to have titles so what entitles the York sisters to theirs?

Yes, I believe them.
Why would anyone lie about racism and suicide?
We know how incredibly racist the media and celebrities can be.
(The D Baker chimp pic is just one that instantly springs to mind)
As for suicide, no-one should minimise or dismiss someone else's mental health struggles.

Yes, absolutely. They were treated appallingly and made the right choice leaving that horrid institution.

I believe them and I’m disgusted at how the Royal Family have sat back and allowed them to be thrown under the bus. It would have been quite easy for them to have put out a statement to say that what they were saying about Meghan, in particular, was not true and detrimental to her health, particularly when she was pregnant, but they just couldn’t be arsed.

It’s lovely that Harry still has a good relationship with the Queen, however Charles has behaved badly imo. You are a father until the day you die. You don’t just stop taking your child’s calls. What about his relationship with Archie and his new baby granddaughter? He’s a cold, old trout.

William has preached about racism in football but can’t find his balls to speak up for his sister in law and baby nephew? He and Kate pretend to care about mental health yet turn their backs on Meghan and Harry? They’re all cowards imo. It’s a shame there’s not a part two because I bet there’s a lot more to be said.

100% believe there were comments about Archie’s potential appearance. Based on personal experience in a mixed race relationship.

I think the Queen allowed the marriage thinking it could help with the Commonwealth. But some of the RF was not prepared for the reality of a mixed race baby especially if it looked Black.

Based on who they have the rift with it must have been Charles or William who said it.

OP, totally agree about her repeatedly referring to Sarah Fergusan as Fergie, extremely odd....

Why is it odd?
That's what she's known as.
Fergie.

Yes, I believe them.

@NiceGerbil

I wasn't going to watch it then did anyway.

I've always thought Meghan was perfectly fine. Not really a royal watcher.

What I got from it was that she really wasn't told what she was in for. How the press can be, and they've really gone for her. Not having any freedom. All that. I think she had no idea and not surprised she got what sounds like reactive depression. She went from presumably an active social life, freedom, friends to being incredibly isolated.

If she’d had real depression and suicidal thoughts and couldn’t be left alone - there is NO WAY that she could have popped on her make up and a sparkly dress and gone to a public engagement at the theatre with the press. No way. With real depression it would not be physically possible to do that.

@Quaagars

OP, totally agree about her repeatedly referring to Sarah Fergusan as Fergie, extremely odd....

Why is it odd?
That's what she's known as.
Fergie.

She's referred to as Sarah by members of the RF..

She said she had thoughts. When she was lying in bed at night.

She didn't say that she was seriously contemplating acting on them.

Also loads of people with MH issues get up and out and to work etc.

I was Team Harry and Meghan but that claim about a private wedding is nonsense - it’s illegal in England to marry without witnesses - and has put the Archbishop in a really difficult position.

If she’d had real depression and suicidal thoughts and couldn’t be left alone - there is NO WAY that she could have popped on her make up and a sparkly dress and gone to a public engagement at the theatre with the press. No way. With real depression it would not be physically possible to do that.

Oh shut up, I'm sorry, but just NO.
You never heard of plastering on a smile if you're suffering inside?
It's not a fucking competition over who has it worse, or whether you're suffering from a level of depression deemed "worthy" enough

I don’t believe all of it. If they needed the money they could have done this without the hatchet job, this was revenge pure and simple. As for Charles cutting them off financially..... do they actually hear themselves!

This. They come across as so entitled and spoilt. Do they not realise that much of what they are moaning about is so much less than what the average person has to deal with in their lives - especially in the current climate? I would have a lot more respect for them if they just shut up and lived the private life they are always banging on about wanting - although from their actions so far that is definitely NOT what they want. Having one's cake and eating it springs to mind.

If Megan was friends with Eugenie before she met Harry she must have known something about the Royals?

I do feel for her. I must admit I saw nothing of the vile and racist coverage at the time. Only the stuff about not wanting to have a public Christening and whatnot. Sounds like they hated that life and therefore they did the right thing by getting out. Though if moving to Canada of your own choosing multiplies your security bill, a new way to pay needs to be found. I recall the PM of Canada at the time wasn’t too keen that that should be the Canadian tax payers either.

Do they not realise that much of what they are moaning about is so much less than what the average person has to deal with in their lives - especially in the current climate?

Such as?
What are you referring to here?
Are you insinuating that people can't struggle if they are rich, and have material wealth?

If she’d had real depression and suicidal thoughts and couldn’t be left alone - there is NO WAY that she could have popped on her make up and a sparkly dress and gone to a public engagement at the theatre with the press. No way. With real depression it would not be physically possible to do that.

One of my immediate family members suffers with depression and suicidal thoughts. They hide it remarkable well and can put on a front when needed. No-one who doesn't live with them would have the faintest idea.

So often when someone commits suicide, even the immediate family say that they had no idea.

She really follows the script of a narcissist. I did not believe a word, although she believe some of her own stories

I think Meghan and Kate both ended up in tears. It was before the wedding. Maybe Kate was advising her on protocol and Meghan didn’t get it. She certainly sounds like she wasn’t prepared and imagined it would be all castles and banquets. They got their knickers in a twist and it blew up. It happens. Not sure about the two weddings thing🤔
I feel for the Queen as she loves all her grandchildren and great grandchildren. You can tell she likes having them around, she always has such a beam on her face.
I’m in the fence. Though there was no need to do a tv interview, very tacky, you’d think Harry would’ve learnt from his mother’s interview. Never a good idea, especially when you want privacy.
Must be hard living in a 16 bedroom house. I don’t think I could shout that loud that dinner was ready.