So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

I don't think anyone was wrong really apart from the press who are awful. Apart from the racist comment about the baby.

The royal family are what they are and who they are. I can't imagine Charles is particularly warm for eg. It's all stiff upper lip and duty etc. They all know how it is.

I think she had no idea of the reality and freaked out. Unsurprisingly. I would hate to be a senior royal.

It was a massive culture clash.

As for going on TV. She's American. That's what they seem to do!

I thought the bit Harry said about cutting off the money was a big mistake. They are both enormously wealthy. He really should have kept his mouth shut on that.

Archie wouldn't have been a prince. The rules of succession don't work that way. Only children and grandchildren of the monarch are princes/princesses. Plus the children of the Prince of Wales which covers the Cambridges. None of the other great grandchildren of the Queen are princes.

But Archie (and the new one) was/were due to be a Prince/Princess when Charles ascends the throne. Like all the Queens grandchildren (through the male line) are entitled to be known as (with Edward and Sophie opting to style their children as children of an Earl).

Meghan said that option was removed for Archie specifically.

She really follows the script of a narcissist. I did not believe a word

Not even the racism in the press (the chimp photo leaving hospital) the "Straight Outta Compton" headline etc etc etc etc?)
Or is it the fact she was down and had suicidal thoughts you don't believe?
Or something else, or both seeing as you said you don't believe any of it?

I generally don’t like what I know of Meghan in regards to her acting, I don’t blame her for wanting to get out and why shouldn’t they be able to live thier lives. I believe most of what they have said. I’ve always thought the royal family were overrated and personally never seen the big deal. Too many British people ass licking the royal family so of course they think she’s lying. The thing is no one will truly ever know what happened other than them and the rest of the family. Kate slid into the her supposed role fairly easy and they expected Meghan to do that too. I’m still convinced Harry isn’t even Charles son so maybe that has something to with it. Of course they won’t admit that as it will open a whole other can of worms.

@eaglejulesk

I don’t believe all of it. If they needed the money they could have done this without the hatchet job, this was revenge pure and simple. As for Charles cutting them off financially..... do they actually hear themselves!

This. They come across as so entitled and spoilt. Do they not realise that much of what they are moaning about is so much less than what the average person has to deal with in their lives - especially in the current climate? I would have a lot more respect for them if they just shut up and lived the private life they are always banging on about wanting - although from their actions so far that is definitely NOT what they want. Having one's cake and eating it springs to mind.

I'm an average person and have never dealt with being vilified in the press, feeling suicidal or racism. Being rich and famous doesn't in itself make your life happy.

@lobster12

I'm disappointed Oprah didn't ask more juicy questions. For example, what her relationship is like with her dad. Why did she only have her mum at her wedding.

It was all just about crucifying the Royal Family

This very one sided. Very disappointing, an opportunity missed, but surely this must have been agreed beforehand.

I suffer from clinical depression and must at times just plaster on the slap and put on the act - it’s called life, and i just thank god it’s not all the time.

I believed them...

Why are people getting so hung up on weird tiny stuff like two weddings.... it was pretty bloody obvious she meant they did their vows to each other in private - not legally got married

@MammabearX1

OP, totally agree about her repeatedly referring to Sarah Fergusan as Fergie, extremely odd.... Also can anyone explain why Beatrice & Eugenie as known as princesses? I read previously Ann didn't want Zara & Peter Phillips to have titles so what entitles the York sisters to theirs?

The children of sons of a monarch are titled Prince or Princess- hence Beatrice and Eugenie. Edward's two would also be entitled to be called Prince and Princess but he and Sophie chose for them to use the titles of the children of an earl. Anne is a female so her children are not given titles automatically - which suited her. The children of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales are also given the title Prince or Princess - ie George Charlotte and Louie. Archie and any other children if H and M will become Prince and Princess when Charles inherits the throne.

Weren’t William’s friends utterly vile to Kate for a while? They were reportedly greeting her with “doors to manual” because her mother had been an air hostess.

@Toomuchtrouble4me sorry but that simply isn't true. I have been in some very dark places in the past. I had my inner circle who knew about it but beyond that everyone was oblivious to how bad things were. I told someone at work recently and she couldn't believe it. In reality putting on a façade and plodding off to work every day was the only thing that kept me going.

@Alternista has it right I reckon:
“I think she truly believed she could overcome and overturn centuries of royal protocol by the force of her will and charm and is absolutely enraged by the fact that didn’t happen. And I think all her narrative should be read through that lens.”

I’m sure she thought the RF would see her as a lovely free spirit and allow her to live that way. But the RF doesn’t work that way, they’re all about duty and service and protocol, and anyone who marries into the family has to live by their rules.

@tabulahrasa

Why are people getting so hung up on weird tiny stuff like two weddings.... it was pretty bloody obvious she meant they did their vows to each other in private - not legally got married

.no, she said “we got married.”

There is 3 sides to a story there truth the royals truth and the actual truth. I do believe they done the right thing harry has always seemed to he left out or pushed to the side that's why he was closer to his mum and after she passed he lost it and all that stuff with the drugs and partying because he didn't for in. I think now he has Megan and his own child he can be himself and feel he belongs somewhere and not get told he had to do xyz ....

@MammabearX1

It’s to do with George Vs patent. Grandchildren can have titles, Anne didn’t want them for her children, Andrew and Edward did and of course Charles. As I understand it George can have a title as a direct male descendant in the line of succession, the Queen had to grant something or other for Charlotte and Louis to get titles

Funny how Harry and Meghan said they didn’t want titles for thier child, they wanted them to have freedom like Zara and Peter, however George Vs patent says they can’t have a title for him anyway. But once Charles is King he can as a grandchild of the King. It’s got nothing to do with race, as they both well know

@Wickstead

Archie wouldn't have been a prince. The rules of succession don't work that way. Only children and grandchildren of the monarch are princes/princesses. Plus the children of the Prince of Wales which covers the Cambridges. None of the other great grandchildren of the Queen are princes.

But Archie (and the new one) was/were due to be a Prince/Princess when Charles ascends the throne. Like all the Queens grandchildren (through the male line) are entitled to be known as (with Edward and Sophie opting to style their children as children of an Earl).

Meghan said that option was removed for Archie specifically.

Can anyone explain why the York sisters are known as Princess Eugenie & Princess Beatrice? Their dad is down the line

I believe parts of it.

I went into the interview not thinking much of Meghan, and it did soften my view of her. I did find it very funny that she compared herself to the little mermaid, poor little mermeghan .

However my opinion of Harry completely changed. I got the impression that Harry almost subconsciously set Meghan up to "re-do" what happened to his mother and do it right this time.

He constantly compared her to Diana. He is involved in mental health charities, why did he not get her any mental health support? Also when they were talking about how good Meghan was at doing the job of a royal, he was fiddling with his wedding ring . That was the only time I noticed him doing that.

Harry should have made sure she knew what she was getting into, and he should have supported her more as she joined the family.

[quote Chloemol]@MammabearX1

It’s to do with George Vs patent. Grandchildren can have titles, Anne didn’t want them for her children, Andrew and Edward did and of course Charles. As I understand it George can have a title as a direct male descendant in the line of succession, the Queen had to grant something or other for Charlotte and Louis to get titles

Funny how Harry and Meghan said they didn’t want titles for thier child, they wanted them to have freedom like Zara and Peter, however George Vs patent says they can’t have a title for him anyway. But once Charles is King he can as a grandchild of the King. It’s got nothing to do with race, as they both well know[/quote]
Thanks for explaining, so Archie wasn't entitled to a title?

“no, she said “we got married.””

And then she described it in a way that made it pretty clear what actually happened.

But yeah, sure because the word married was used, she can only possibly have meant legally and not what she actually described.

I believed them.

Meghan said: ‘You know, three days before our wedding, we got married. No one knows that.'....
‘We called the Archbishop and we just said, “Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world but we want our union between us.”’

So no one knows they got married - because they actually didn't.

Though am loling at them telling the Archbishop that the C of E wedding ceremony is a 'thing'.

It reminds me of when Dawn in The Office told David Brent she really wants to be an artist not a receptionist and he tells her to 'keep up the doodling'.

I believe them. In any narrative, the perspective won't be perfectly complete. I expect other family members could add things that would make it more balanced (perhaps along the lines of 'No one said Archie wouldn't have security because he wasn't going to be a prince/ Kate cried too and sent flowers to be nice/ the Royals do not control the tabloids/ most of the royals also hate it when uncle so and so makes awful comments'.

However, it probably wouldn't alter the most damaging points or justification for leaving - it seems they did need to leave that toxic, suppressive environment as someone like Meghan was never going to be ok, the tabloids were bullying and who keeps their child in an environment where they perceive they're subject to subtle discrimination and increased risk. Obviously Harry's previous experiences make him spectacularly unsuited to tolerate it and live with it comfortably. Meghan just isn't built to be a Kate Middleton (great that Kate can do it without imploding but most of us would feel like hand maidens if we had to live that life). She offered the UK what she had and it didn't suit anyone. Fair enough. We all deserve to make our own path.

She has reason to be hurt and angry...and they are. They still clearly have a great deal of healing to do. Hopefully they've said their piece and everyone can start to move on now.

I believe them.

The British journalists and media especially Piers Morgan have been horrendous towards her.

Even now, this morning he was on GMB saying he didn't believe she was suicidal when ITV are running a mental health campaign.

We all know that Diana died at the hands of the press, who can blame Harry for taking his wife and son to safety away from the circus around them.

The family are incest and have a son who's accused of being a sexual predator, yet that's not been addressed.

Mammabearx1

Beatrice and Eugenie are the queen's granddaughters - automatically princesses

When Charles is monarch then his grandsons and granddaughters (like Archie) will become princes/princesses