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So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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selectabo · 08/03/2021 22:52

I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

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LApprentiSorcier · 09/03/2021 07:29

By sharing that someone in the royal family was racist and then not naming them, the whole family is now tarred and everyone is speculating about who said it. People have suggested it was William on here - imagine you were William and you’d said nothing of the sort

I agree with this - she should have named the person, or not said anything. It's very unfair on the other royals.

Rosehip10 · 09/03/2021 07:30

It is a legal and ecclesiastical impossibility they were "married" by the archbishop of Canterbury three days before wedding in their back garden - a rehearsal and a blessing sure, but nothing else and the CoE will have to confirm this ASAP.

LadyPenelope68 · 09/03/2021 07:30

No, she thought she was going to have all the glory and high life that Americans think the Riyals have, when in reality it wasn’t like that. She didn’t get her way and now she’s putting on an Oscar winning performance for money and to save her face. Won’t be long before she ditches him and runs, then he’ll have lost everything.

TorringtonDean · 09/03/2021 07:31

Of course if William gets “cancelled” then Harry is bumped up the pecking order!

felulageller · 09/03/2021 07:31

I'm no fan of them but I thought the bit about her passport and keys being taken away was chilling.

BalloonSlayer · 09/03/2021 07:33

I liked Meghan a thousand times more than I expected to and I felt sorry and sad for her. I was pleased at the end that she said she was happy.

She/they did tell one clear lie - that they were married three days before the ceremony by the A of C. They were not. Watching and listening closely, she definitely said they were married and Harry says "it's true!" Not true, so that one was a lie.

Harry I was much less impressed with. Moaning about his father "cutting him off" He's thirty fucking six! They left the UK to seek financial independence!

He should have warned her more, protected her more, not told her horrible things a family member had said but had a private word with them/reported them to HMQ.

The Security issue was an obv6one as Royal Security is done by the UK Police. As Security is something Harry knows about - both needing it and providing it having been in the army, setting up a celebrity security company would be a great business idea for him.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 09/03/2021 07:33

She didn't know what she was getting into and didn't google anything about the royal family? She is either talking bullshit or is just outstandingly stupid. I can't believe anybody could be "that" stupid.
All the furore about Diana, Andrew you couldn't miss it unless you had been brought up on the moon and her and Harry never discussed any of it. Whatevs.

skodadoda · 09/03/2021 07:33

@liverpool1981

There is more to this that meets the eye. I don't think Harry is charles son. Why would they cut him off financially??
They cut them off financially because they were not going to pay for their celebrity lifestyle in the USA. H&M didn’t want to be working royals, they wanted to go their own way.
lollipoprainbow · 09/03/2021 07:33

Yes I thought they came across very well and I believe them. Naturally there's about fifty vitriolic articles in the daily mail this morning about them headed of course by Piers Morgan Hmm

Lockdownbear · 09/03/2021 07:33

@TorringtonDean

Of course if William gets “cancelled” then Harry is bumped up the pecking order!
What do you mean?

If Williams 3 kids are behind him and before Harry so Harry is still a way down the list.

TimetohittheroadJack · 09/03/2021 07:34

I can't comprehend why, given they had plenty time to prepare and Oprah was never going to ask any difficult questions, why they answered falsely.

For example:

M: a few days before the wedding we had a practice ceremony in the garden with the archibishop. The sun was shining and it is was prefect, just me and Harry. That feels like my real wedding.

On the passport:
M: I've spend my last 15/20 years being in charge in my own life - if I wanted to jump on a plane to Paris I could. Now I don't even have my passport, if I want to go anywhere I need to get it checked out, get security etc.

On the curtesy
M: I couldn't believe they did it in private, I mean yes, I thought it was all just for show, didn't everyone.

On the colour of her baby:
M: well no I wasn't there, Harry told me. Maybe it was meant as an innocent comment, but Harry was raging.

She had every opportunity for the public to 'take to her. Explain she was shocked by the strictness, security and although Harry had told her, what a shock it was and she wasn't happy. Her mental health had suffered. Harry wanted to make her happy and they couldn't see how she could be happy in that environment.

BalloonSlayer · 09/03/2021 07:38

@TimetohittheroadJack the curtsey example of yours is more or less exactly what she did say.

foxhat · 09/03/2021 07:39

They either outright lied or, at best, misled re: the title issue and the 'marriage' 3 days before the public marriage. For this reason I can't take any other of their claims at face value. I do believe she was highly stressed. I don't understand why Harry could not get her help though. I think the press are awful so again it's easy to believe the amount of stress they caused but I am not convinced their motivations were racist. I think they are just called the gutter press for a reason and in reality it's the fault of everyone who buys newspapers which criticised her for eating an avocado as their headline. In short, no I don't fully believe them: I think they undermined themselves too much and all their interview does is demonstrate that they spin things so much as to be potentially unrecognisable as the observable truth.

YanTanTethera123 · 09/03/2021 07:39

@didofido

So much untruth! She didn't know his grandmother was the Queen, and she would have to curtsey

They refused Archie a title - as the son The Duke of Sussex he is Earl of Dumbarton. They said they didn't want it.

They took her passport - yet she managed to fly to the U.S for a baby shower.

Not allowed mental health support - while Harry was having support to get over his mother's death.

And best of all from Harry, "when we left we were cut off financially" Does he not know that in the real world when you resign from an organisation, they stop paying you?! And they then only had his mother's legacy to live on. Most of us could struggle through life on £30+ million.

^ precisely. I find it odd that Harry didn’t have ready access to mental health support for Meghan the moment she started expressing her feelings of despair. He clearly has the background knowledge to know where to go from experience. How did he let it escalate to the point that she was suicidal yet apparently do nothing according to her?
FedNlanders · 09/03/2021 07:41

I didnt want to believe it, I hold the RM in some kind of fairy tale, but I DO believe it and I think they did the right thing.

randomer · 09/03/2021 07:42

@Shehasadiamondinthesky, exactly! Here we have adults in their thirties

who apparently didn't have the wit to google, ask around a bit, watch and learn, discuss how they were going to fit into an institiution.

pathetic.

Ironfloor269 · 09/03/2021 07:43

Harry could have ditched Meghan when going started getting tough.he could have kept his lifestyle, title, money etc. He didn't. Instead, he chose to stand by his family and break away from the toxic institution that is the monarchy. Harry has got balls. Hats off to him!

ElonanotAlone · 09/03/2021 07:43

Megan is a trained actress, she co-directed the show with Opera to come “tell her side” so they can manage the airing rights - dropping carefully crafted bombshells to gain maximum coverage earns $$ and divide sides.

I couldn’t bring myself to watch her diatribe on the Royal family and difficulties within. Royalty was the last platform she desperately wanted to enter and she didn’t want to be the second fiddle in the Royal Family. She is a lost cause, and plays different cards to suit her needs. I would have thought she would be more sympathetic to Kate’s plight and acceptance into the family - years of media bashing - but no, she showed little sympathy for someone experiencing the beating by the same yardstick. Megan will always ahah the battle was harder and use every card she has to achieve the point to her sole advantage.

Sadly Harry has been dragged down the road too manipulating Harry with bitter sweet .
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ineedaholidaynow · 09/03/2021 07:44

But Harry is still complaining that his dad doesn't pay for him, not sure that shows he has balls.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 09/03/2021 07:45

Must be hard living in a 16 bedroom house. I don’t think I could shout that loud that dinner was ready.

I expect she sends footman to tell Harry when she's putting the chips on, so he has time to take his wellies off, wash his hands, and walk the 3 miles from the pigeon cree to the kitchen, ready for her to dish up.

Lockdownbear · 09/03/2021 07:45

@Ironfloor269

Harry could have ditched Meghan when going started getting tough.he could have kept his lifestyle, title, money etc. He didn't. Instead, he chose to stand by his family and break away from the toxic institution that is the monarchy. Harry has got balls. Hats off to him!
Has he really got balls or is he under the thumb?
RainingBatsAndFrogs · 09/03/2021 07:45

Yes I believed them.

It was heartbreaking hearing Harry say his father had let him down, especially given how Charles felt about his own father.

I think the emotional repercussions will be much greater for Harry, and it probably wasn’t the best thing to do.

I feel disturbed and ashamed by the whole thing.

The ‘bump’ and ‘avocado’ stories in the press tell a shameful story.

RaspberryCoulis · 09/03/2021 07:48

Nope.

They lied about having a "real" wedding three days before the telly wedding. That was just a rehearsal.

They lied about Archie being denied a title because he was mixed race. He was never going to be Prince.

What else are they lying about?

Clearly Ms Markle joining the Royal Family was like shoving a square peg in a round hole. Mismatch of expectations, cultures and attitudes. But the fault is never one way only and I can't believe people are just accepting everything she says as gospel.

skodadoda · 09/03/2021 07:48

@Hairsonyourchest

No. They may believe the version they have told but there are two sides to every story.
This is also my view. Meghan has been extremely over sensitive and put her own spin on perceived ‘racism’. She also shows an astonishing, almost deliberate lack of knowledge about royalty.
starfro · 09/03/2021 07:49

Most of it is twisted truth. I believe that she was frustrated that she couldn't do what she wanted as a Royal, and that caused tension and frustration.

I think she alway planned to use her newfound fame as a route to Hollywood, and this interview is the springboard.

Quite a few of the lies she told in the interview have been debunked already.