So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

I believe Harry.

I think M talked quite a lot of BS.

Harry came across as a bit bewildered, bless him.

I hope they can just be happy and zip it.

Yes I believe them - it's the hysterical way the daily mail has responded that has swung it for me.

She doesn’t paint Harry in a good light- apparently he didn’t prepare her for royal life in any way (presumably didn’t discuss his own life at all then?), didn’t get help for her mental health issues - even a simple phone call to a relevant professional? He could easily have done that.

@Throughtheforest2

Not looking good for William is it... the supposed hushed up affair that the papers certainly nodded to but never reported (with suggestions that this is why Cambridges didn’t stop the meghann stories) and I can’t help but feel that he’s involved with the racist remarks - did seem a bit much that they just fell out over William warning Harry he was taking things too fast... I thought Charles would hand the reigns to William given popularity... but monarchy is looking shaky

The William affair was very quickly dealt with in the press... Kate always looked amazing even though around that time I thought she looked particularly thin & tired... In relation to Kate she had put up with terrible abuse from the press over the years, her lovely immidiate family slagged & criticised, her uncle in Ibiza, the topless photos yet she followed the royal motto to the letter... "Never complain, never explain"

They just came a across as tone deaf whingers crying about normal family things as if it was some sort of crazy bent out of shape situation.

If that's the best they have then I'm not sure what they hoped to achieve, stories about dad not wanting to give his son money and brothers falling out are hardly front page stuff and pretty normal, Kate made Meghan cry? Oh the humanity! I mean that surely never happened before in a family, plus a family member said something inappropriate, it happens deal with it there and then within your family. Meghan had health issues no one would help, where was your husband? Meghan didn't know anything about the royal family? again where was your husband...none of this scans at all...

With all the real injustice/suffering going on in the world it's just pathetic that this is consuming people, they have every right to walk away so walk away with some dignity.

This is about revenge for not getting their way so they have cobbled together a minestrone of tidbits in the hope that something might stick whilst trying to raise their media value, it's embarrassing.

And why didn’t Harry didn’t point out that half his cousins don’t have titles or that being the second son isn’t the same as being the heir. How can mm ignore the fact that she was given a title and a massive wedding and at the same time say that Archie isn’t a prince because of his colour. He has 1 black grandparent.

I think she has an agenda and she was the mouth piece for the majority of the interview. Lets look at this she utilmately sold their story to the highers bidder which is grim in itself, which is excately what her father and half sister did.There was utterly outcry for it and how she tried to stop private letter being shared that her father had send. Yet she chooses to do the same about the royal family. I think the very family she seems to fall out with everyone and is the common denominator yet says it all. She only had one family member at her wedding and this was wedding number 2. Its not normal to have just one family member where were all her friends? I think she's twisted things to make things. She already lied about the wedding being 3 days before the big wedding. It was confirmed they weren't married then. They sat there in there expensive clothes in their expensive home and moan about their lives like they did in Africa during the pandemic. They have no idea. They life a life of luxury they don't want the royal duties that come with being a royal.

There is blame on both sides. I believe Meghan went in believing she could trailblaze and shake up the monarchy only to find she couldn’t. But that she did experience racism, sexism and possibly xenophobia.

I can see why she’s conflated the comment regarding the colour of future children's skin with the comment post birth that the convention that would allow Archie to become an HRH and a Prince on Charles’ ascension would be changed. The references to Charles’ desire for a slimmed down monarchy emanate from the press rather than directly from the palace at this stage so that could have bypassed Meghan. They’re probably following the Sweden model but I can see how this would have upset Meghan.

I can’t pin down the timeline on the withdrawal of security. It feels like this is pre their decision to leave possibly during or just post pregnancy as it appears oears to be a driver for their decision, not a consequence of it. So I too would have been troubled by that. Once they’d decided to leave as working royals, different story.

Not all of it. I believe a lot of half truths were used to make the viewer believe a certain event, happened a certain way, whilst the absolute truth would have painted a different story.

Also it felt very staged and rehearsed, there's no way that M&H had no idea what would be asked and that Oprah didn't know what the answer would be. But again maybe they had discussed it, and not officially agreed it, but because nothing was signed they could say that they didn't know. Again half truths.

I believe the main claims, (racism, Charles is a petulant dick, the royal family could have called off the press to some extent) although there was rather a lot of waffle too. I can totally sympathise with the worry over security for their son rather than the actual title. They were always going to be under a lot more scrutiny than other minor royals. It seems rather old fashioned that security is provided by title rather than by risk. Totally believe the institution threw them to the wolves a bit, probably to distract from a few other shocking stories that might have leaked otherwise.

I believe that it is their version of the truth, though not exactly the truth

Judging by all the posts through the night there are a lot of Americans on here! Maybe the thing they don’t grasp is Harry is a prince and that is very different from being a self-made billionaire. Public money is used to fund the Royals and so there are rules over how it is spent. It’s different from its being their own money. In fact Harry was very annoyed about having to spend his “own” pot - the cash he inherited from Diana after she divorced.

Meghan would not have married him if he was a humble Harry Windsor, ex-Army officer. She does have a bad relationship with her own family. Plus she is an ex-actress and has spent her life seeking to become a celebrity.

Lots of Brits welcomed her with open arms initially - she was new and fresh, intelligent and articulate and a face of modernity. But she hardly got started before she had had enough! The statement at the beginning of last year over “Megxit” was very much along the lines of “Royal money is ours to spend as we wish”. That was the danger point, I think! Because most countries don’t have Royal families - we’ve kept ours because they are constitutional and there are boundaries and although there are exceedingly rich they are not too personally blingy and don’t rub our noses in it too much.

The relationship between the people and the monarchy is one of the points where there could be conflict. And because the monarchy “rules over us” we have a free press which can report on it.

I think the suspicion here is that Meghan targeted Harry because she wanted fame and fortune and chose to say she didn’t understand about Royalty.

Meghan must have felt very low if she said so, but I just don’t believe she couldn’t seek treatment. She could just walk out of Kensington Palace if she wished and be in the heart of London. Diana used to do it and take her boys to McDonalds, Harry and Wills were regular at all nightclubs locally back in the day. Meghan must have a computer and phone and could surely contact people? She still had her own funds and bank accounts and must have had a way of getting herself help?

Dr Hilary on GMB summed it up for me which is that great emotions can change perspective. And that two emotionally damaged people came and clung together and rely on each other and therefore that isolated them even more

Harry and Meghan told their truth in the interview and I do think they genuinely believe the what they say is what happened.

Their truth though is only one side of the story. The other players in it have a different truth to them.

Their interpretation of events is one side of the story. Other people may have other views or interpret things differently.

Definitely some twisting of the facts, and their interpretation of the facts, to fit their agenda going on.

There's 3 sides to a story: side A, side B, and the truth.

@DogsAreShit

It's a lot of fucking hassle to go through if none of it is true. Why would they?

This

@queenofthelamas

I believe most of it. Similarities to what Diana said...

The thing is though, that doesn't mean that it's true.

I'm being accused of stealing some business property by an ex business partner. He's made allusions that I'm acting like another ex business partner of his, before I'm alleged to have stolen it. The other ex business partner did actively conspire to steal the property.

But I didn't. I have extensive written proof that I haven't and do not plan to steal anything. But the perception is very fixed that a pattern is repeated.

They expect me to behave badly, therefore fit what I say into what they expect to hear. The linguistic contortions to achieve this are substantial.

This is just one side of the story.

@liverpool1981

There is more to this that meets the eye. I don't think Harry is charles son. Why would they cut him off financially??

Yes let’s talk about that!!! Harry not being Charles.... not even because of money I have always thought this!!

I don't see why they would lie and I think they were right to leave.

But I don't understand why they done the interview. All this 'quiet life' talk is utter bullshit.

Because it is their truth it’s how they feel and I think part of their truth is that the British press set out to tell something different and they wanted their story heard

The Netflix deal and the marketing will propel them to a new level of celebrity and wealth. A lot more than being a Suits actress.

Yes, of course. Some of it may be perceptions but I 100% believe what they went through.

@braceletsandbangles

Well she was a better actress tonight than she ever was on Suits.

This!!!

As with most things the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

I live in London. I've seen Meghan twice 'off duty'. Once was in Kensington Gardens where she was walking with a friend, drinking coffee, chatting and laughing. (Looking amazing). The other time was in a restaurant where she and Harry were having dinner. Neither of these occasions made the press. I'm sure there were many others. Yet she made it sound like she was trapped indoors and not allowed out.

I've also seen Kate shopping in Selfridges. They can do normal everyday things, and they do.