So, do you believe the royal couples revelations made tonight?

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I did. felt more authentic than I've expected. You?

For them this sensational ''news'' = huge publicity = money. The more publicity they get - the more money they can earn. They will get contracts etc. because of this free publicity they are now getting .

I didn't believe a lot of the detail or that she didn't google the family or have lots of practice at curtsying , I am sure Harry would've spoken at length about the media and expectations , he had to end his career in the military because of the job and the media hounded his mother. I can understand she couldn't get her head around it fully until she was on it and I absolutely believe there would've been a racist agenda, either overt or covert. It would be more of a surprise if there wasn't. I don't think they've done themselves any favours with the style of the interview and exaggerating their naivety and Harry in particular didn't come across well. I hope they are able to bring up their children in peace.

I can believe there is racism and elitism in the British Upper classes and in the gutter popular press. Duh, hardly a surprise.

But, as for the rest, she and Harry have been clever. We are expected to believe that an experienced TV actress of her generation, has NO CLUE what mega-celebrity is like?

I wish Oprah would have asked, did she not watch "Notting Hill"? Would have given her a clue.

And second, Harry didnt try to help her navigate it all? I call bull. Au contraire, she didn't WANT advice, it was there, but she didnt like the advice she was given so she went her own way and it backfired big-time.

So now here they are, they want to earn a LOT of money. That's clear. They aren't retreating to quiet obscurity. They live in a huge mansion. She has ambition. Nothing wrong with that. But is she being honest? No way. She completely understands PR on the modern world. To make a LOT of money, you need to capitalise on trends - MH, racism, etc are very topical. Her Netfliz series on MH will be more interesting if she can angle it from her own tragic "authentic lived experience". Her position as a strong young independent black woman is more poignant when she is victimized by the reactionary, grinding machine of a British monarchy that oppressed her.

She is trying to be a beacon for her generation.

The British Press cast her as a villain versus Kate's perfection. All lies. That was horrific.

Now she's doing the same - selecting facts spinning things, to the advantage of her public image and her purse. Do I blame her and harry for that? Nope. It's a master stroke, and entirely consistent with the actions of a bright, independent, resourceful young woman.

But do I believe her??? Ha. How gullible do you think I am?

@ThumbWitchesAbroad Just what 'photographic evidence' is that?

Sigh. You mean in the Windsor where she felt loathed, trapped, surrounded by hate and was repeatedly lied about? You just hate her and cant be arsed to hear her side. You need to ask yourself why.

Ultimately all of ‘this’ was because Of being hounded by the press. The depression was caused by this. They wanted to step back because of this. .... they wanted privacy...and time out (paid for by the tax payer/ RF) why do an Oprah interview then? Double standards. Cant have your cake and eat it? The press are on it even more now!

Re Harry not preparing her , didn't he and Chelsea end their relationship as she didn't want to become part of the firm? Blimey I know this and I am a republican !

@ImAncient No, I don't. Not at all. Read any threads on this site and it's quite common. Many threads have something where both the OP and their spouse are NC with both their parents.

It's very common on here.

I have sat with my blue-blood ‘friend’ and seen her click her fingers at a waiter.

The Upper classes can have an elitist and protectionist mentality where looking down on the ‘small people’ is their blindness and prison.

I believe them. It is a trapping lifestyle.
I hope they can mentally break free.

[quote Cokie3]@ImAncient No, I don't. Not at all. Read any threads on this site and it's quite common. Many threads have something where both the OP and their spouse are NC with both their parents.

It's very common on here.[/quote]
You see I do think it’s odd. But would be a very boring if we all thought the same. But thank you for replying. I stand by that Harry had a loving relationship with his family. And that’s gone now. It’s very sad.

@scottsdc15 You don't know the ins and outs of her family dynamic.

You clearly believe all the tabloid lies and presume to know her based on the junk you believe.

I find it difficult to believe that they actually think Archie wouldn’t be a a prince because of skin colour. Both know full well the RF never treated Meghan differently - she had titles, a wedding with a black pastor, Charles happy to walk her mum down the aisle etc.
I don’t doubt someone mentioned skin colour though . Context is everything. My family discussed the skin colour of my baby ( I’m Indian on my mums side) and my dad very blue eyed and fair. We also discussed hair colour given red hair on his dads side.
It’s ludicrous to suggest they’d not give an Archie a title because of looks when his parents had them.

Ah Meghan I think is just being herself . Do we think she would have married Harry had he been and East End butcher - not so sure - I think the Prince thing was a lure. I don't know. & to be fair you don't really have two children with someone you do not have at least great affection for ( do you ? ) or love

Here is the moment at which anyone can report my post. DH has no interest in the RF what so ever, I asked him what he thought about Harry and Meghan & DH rather languidly said - "that man is thinking with his cock - I hope it goes well for him "

For goodness sake someone report this post - otherwise I will ( sorry MN)

I wonder why, when people hear uncomfortable things from people they don’t like “for no apparent reason, they just can’t put their finger on it”, that they automatically assume they’re liars?

The royal family are people like the rest of us. And some of those people are racist and/or old fashioned and/or stuck in their ways and/or paedophiles. The signs have been there for years - this is hardly a bolt out of the blue.

Frogmore cottage anyone ? - I prefer it to that holiday villa of a house they have - sorry if people prefer the other one or have something similar

So much untruth!
She didn't know his grandmother was the Queen, and she would have to curtsey

They refused Archie a title - as the son The Duke of Sussex he is Earl of Dumbarton. They said they didn't want it.

They took her passport - yet she managed to fly to the U.S for a baby shower.

Not allowed mental health support - while Harry was having support to get over his mother's death.

And best of all from Harry, "when we left we were cut off financially" Does he not know that in the real world when you resign from an organisation, they stop paying you?! And they then only had his mother's legacy to live on. Most of us could struggle through life on £30+ million.

Good luck to them
They both look extremely happy

Yes I did, largely. So much if it happened before with Diana. A few things were silly, like being an actress and stressing about having to learn the national anthem. They seemed deadly serious about the palace briefing against them, which was so sad.

@VampireTheBuffetSlayer

I believe that this is how they feel, and they are entitled to that. There are always two sides to a story and the truth lies somewhere in between. They came across as genuine and the issue over security must have been a huge worry to a father wanting to protect his family.

Harry would have known he wouldn't get security, why didn't he help Meghan navigate royal life?

Nope.

No hard facts just another American who doesn’t understand that we have a different history and a different legal book.

As far as I’m concerned she went in to find a problem.

Plus she is an Californian wet lettuce who probably bans peakabo for Archie as it’s traumatic.

I believe they are both emotionally damaged. Perhaps Harry because of the loss of his mother but depression does not always stem from an external event some people are just more prone. Meghan seems to have left an estranged family behind her and now a new family on top of that. Wonder if she suffered from antenatal depression as a lot of the issues seem to have arisen around the time of her pregnancy.

Yes, the British press is vile but, as others have said, remember that when you make comparisons between Kate and Meghan's treatment of the press, Kate had already endured years and years of vile comments whereas Meghan and Harry's romance really was whirlwind.

People with depression or depressive personalities often see things from a very pessimistic point of view and feel a lack of control. This is incredibly common.

That Meghan did not look up Harry beforehand is obviously rubbish. She's a meticulous, organised person by all accounts and absolutely everyone else would look up their first date, especially if they themselves were famous and meeting a prince.

Wanting space for their own private vows - why did she invites hardly any family or friends but celebrities she didn't even know (she'd only met Oprah three months before, don't believe they were close friends at that point).

The fact that she felt the only person she could turn to was Diana's best friend suggest a certain victim mentality.

It is a shame as she sees an incredibly articulate woman who could have done so well but Harry and Meghan together was never going to work.

Maybe there is a chasm between generations here in how they are viewed. Going on TV to air your grievances is personally not something that I believe is the right thing to do for anyone especially if you want to live a life in peace.

You see I do think it’s odd. But would be a very boring if we all thought the same. But thank you for replying. I stand by that Harry had a loving relationship with his family. And that’s gone now. It’s very sad

Yes, I recall some interview where he said that his family would be the family she never had.

Ironic ... he now treats his family much like she treats hers.

I have actually studied MH quite a bit and worked in a role where this was a big part of it. I would usually be the first person to believe a claim of needing MH help.
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Unfortunately, MM has done and said too many things for her to have my vote. If I knew her in person, I would always make sure I left the room backwards.

She has acted like a Hollywood Diva from the start, with the worst behaviour being when she had the whole stand in Wimbledon closed down just for her and then some poor bloke was hassled for taking a non-photo. The whole "What Meghan wants, Meghan gets" bratty behaviour. The way she treats her paternal family, especially her dad. Not wanting her own family at the wedding but inviting celebrities she doesn't even know. Telling the British public that they were married 3 days before we thought they got married. This is insulting to the British people.

I don't dispute that the BRF is rotten to the core because of the very nature of their existence. They need reforming.

There is no need to take sides in this. The whole thing stinks.

WRT Harry. He is not very intelligent, he has little real support network and is vulnerable. He is a perfect victim for a narcissist.