Sit tight, she’s on...

[HeathIns]

Oprah is annoying me already.

Yep basically a "can't seem to get their stories straight"...but we take the allegations seriously nonetheless, very well played!

@VanillaIce

I do think the official statement is actually excellent. Someone has earned their salary crafting that, there’s not a word out of place.

Yes as PR, it’s beautiful.

Good Queen - I imagine the wine and dining is the royal the press hasn't slated so.....,erm 🤔

Lovely comments describing a whole family (you don't know) as racist pedophiles - I have an aunt who committed a crime (and was convicted) so glad the world doesn't work whereby I'd be smeared and labelled the same as her just because we are related

Glad piers gone - he practically frothed at the mouth with vitriol

Lovely new pic of Harry/Meghan/Archie

Are they done now though or more 'talking / media exposure' to come - in PR terms you ride a wave don't you?

Damn, the Queen just basically called them liars!

Probably closer to say that they noticed the many inconsistencies - after all if many on here spotted them it seems a fair bet the RF will have done the same

Are they done now though or more 'talking / media exposure' to come

Well, numerous posters have pointed out that nothing was asked about Meghan's family - maybe that's next week?

MM wanted someone to stop the appalling press stories happening to her, but the RF were only going to stop these stories mattering to her. Her expectation of being “protected” and theirs were so different. Then there’s the “we protect you by protecting the family” element. She had a lot of crap thrown at her, partly racism, partly the hero/villain stuff, but none of it was “OK”.

I like MM, but I don’t think she’s perfect: she doesn’t seem to’ve had a clue what she was letting herself in for, doesn’t seem to’ve listened to any advice, not realised how different the UK and the US are, not appreciated how extreme ends of a scale the RF is compared to celebrity-California. No wonder, she’s a confident, intelligent grown woman who isn’t going to listen to opinions on how to behave. She didn’t want to hear warnings before she married (because she loves him) she doesn’t want to now (because she’s too angry and bitter - no wonder!).

It’s just an unholy tragedy. She wasn’t entirely honest in the interview, more her perception of the intent than what actually happened.

SugarfreeBlitz

Fucking hell..... have you actually just posted that?

Erm 😐

Yet it's convenient that he allowed George, Charlotte and Louis a title, and never acted on slimming down the RF....until now. He didn't with George. Nor Charlotte's birth. Nor Louis' birth.

I've already posted this on this thread but, there was a reason they did it for William's children. Setting aside all personal issues with the various personalities, William's first born son would have been titled 'Prince' anyway under the LP which stated that 'the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales' would be HRH Prince RoyalBaby.

The same didn't apply if they had a girl. Because of the revisions to the succession rules which meant a female baby would not be skipped in favour of her brothers, they could have ended up with a situation where William had one, or several, girls, and then a boy that outranked his sisters in terms of title but not in terms of succession. The Queen did it to maintain clarity around 'rank' in the family which otherwise would have been confusing. The simplest way to do that was to say 'all of Williams children' rather than 'all of the girls but not subsequent boys after the eldest' which just wouldn't make that much sense.

There was a clear reason for it when you look at the various laws involved. The same isn't there for Archie. Regardless, William's children are the children of the man that will be King. Harry's are not. They are members of an institution that is all about rank and status, and that makes William's children, frankly, more important when it comes to that status. It isn't about Charles being fair and treating the sons equally as it might be in a personal context, because in terms of laws around titles and succession, they aren't.

Just remembering an account of M meeting a friend just after she and H got together. Her friend tried to warn her and make her think about the implications of being involved with a Prince. She held her hand up and said ‘stop, I don’t want to hear it’. Property much sums it up.

Pretty much!

If I was a member of the royal family, I would never trust them again.

I think it's clear that that feeling is mutual. As for @SugarfreeBlitz's wee tirade, I've seen that a fair bit on Mnet this past couple of days, the attempted "whitewashing" of MM shows the racists for exactly what they are.

It doesn't matter what she looks like and when.

People know she's a woman with Black heritage, her Mum who is Black was at the wedding, which also had a Black evangelical pastor deliver a significant sermon, and a Black choir performing multiple times, all of which was much commented on and featured heavily in photos.

Ok, some didn't know until the wedding. Sure, maybe, but after the wedding, EVERYONE KNEW.

Stop it with what she looks like. It's not an alibi for a bit of sly British racism.

Just watched clip of PM storming off on GMB

I was aware of him and his behaviour only from what i read here on MN - (can't watch GMB can't stand SR) and my goodness his face while he was hearing those (quite gently spoken) home truths!

He's not quite ok is he?

You know he resigned @Laiste? Best ne s I’d the day.

It is Ricki, it is.

I'm so amazed he was allowed to get away with ranting his personal thoughts/feelings/beliefs like that every day.

I was not being racist so apologies if I caused offence by commenting on M hair. I just commented as mine also changes my look when I straighten it.

Apologies if I misunderstood you @sugarlost

The other, really bad, poster also had a sugar themed username which probably added to the confusion.

@GoLightlyontheEarth

Just remembering an account of M meeting a friend just after she and H got together. Her friend tried to warn her and make her think about the implications of being involved with a Prince. She held her hand up and said ‘stop, I don’t want to hear it’. Property much sums it up.

I remember reading that.

@RickiTarr no problem. Thank you for your update.

@Thewordgame

Wow, sooo many jealous people on here, angry with Meghan for no reason. Yes you will never have her beauty, fame, or personality and you will never marry a prince who loves you and your babies more than anything. Accept it. She is a wonderful human being who was treated horribly by the our press and the RF. I really hope they have a beautiful life together with their children.

@Pimlicojo

Cokie3 you don't know what colour people on here are.

Exactly. I'm dark brown (proof: see image!) and for decades I've avoided accusing people of being racist, even when they obviously were. In such cases I steered clear of self-pity. It's far heathier. I hate labels and I hate labelling others.

I was all excited when H. chose a mixed-race bride. Over the moon! But over the years I've been thoroughly put off by her excessive and what appears to be self-pitying behaviour. If I am critical of her it's not because of her race. It's a constant centering of herself and pontificating about being kind. In the midst of a world crisis when people are truly suffering and dying, and her father in law in hospital, I just think it's in bad taste to wash one's dirty laundry in public.

She could learn a lot from the Queen: never explain, never complain.

Funnily enough, the people I've seen who are most vicious towards her, and mostly unfairly, is on the forum lipstickalley -- and these are black American women! Hundreds of them!