Sit tight, she’s on...

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Oprah is annoying me already.

No, I'm not. But they can't criticise the rest of the institution if Harry is behaving in the way they allege others are.

@Stratfordplace

I don’t know how MM keeps a straight face. Oprah looked incredulous and like she was only there for what they were going to come out with next. Also MM has been very fortunate. Her father won a considerable sum and spent it on her education.

Conveniently forgotten on here.

I thought Oprah looked disgusted when Harry described himself as trapped. She seemed quite angry almost.

The RF are trapped. It may be the most gilded cage in the world, but it's still a cage.

BP have just released a statement

So they have.

So they want to keep it in the family and clearly aren’t going to respond substantively in public. Hmm.

@RickiTarr

So they want to keep it in the family and clearly aren’t going to respond substantively in public. Hmm.

To be honest, regardless of right and wrong, I am not surprised and don't think they should respond fully and publically.

M&H chose to go public with their view - fine, they are entitled to do that no matter whether anyone likes it or not. The palace has never really courted the media and has a pretty much 'no comment' policy on most things, so for them to start trading accusations publically would just make this more of a media circus than it already is.

To be honest, regardless of right and wrong, I am not surprised and don't think they should respond fully and publically

I agree. BP don't owe the public any explanations anyway.

You can see why they want to handle it privately.

I’m just not convinced it will work as a way of putting the PR fire out. Maybe nothing would.

If it was said to Harry as something he should consider before continuing the relationship it was racist. I don't think it was said in any other way.

Not at all.

If these conversations happened before M&H were married, during the early stages of their relationship it's not unreasonable for a close family member to ask harry out of concern to consider the implications and challenges of raising a royal mixed race child in the UK.

Especially bearing in mind the obviously racist gutter press and considering all the horrible articles and comments that had been written about Meghan at the time. Harry doesn't seem to be a very forward thinking lad and has done many things in his life without considering the implications. These conversations could have very well happened out of concern for Harry's well being as in was he prepared for potential negative reactions and treatment by the press and internet trolls. Cue he was not.

If however the conversations were along the lines of 'we were going to give Harry's children the same royal rights as Williams but now that his offspring will be mixed race we won't be doing that' then whoever said this must be held accountable.

I personally don't think that anyone in his family will trust Harry ever again. He truly took the knife and stabbed them in the back. Silly, silly fool. All this could have been handled in a much more mature and peacemaking manner especially as that is how they frame themselves 'changing the world, one act of kindness at a time'. Not with this interview, no. It was an act of betrayal.

I think their response is the right one. Hopefully both parties will come together to move things forward.

There's always a possibility that BP will handle it privately then we will be treated to yet another evening with H&M&Oprah with the findings...

I wonder how they will investigate it privately, will they have all the usual suspects in the room bar the Queen and Philip. Will it be a bit like cluedo?

It is all so tacky and irrelevant to anyone with critical thinking. Who really cares, all it is is publicity celebrity style.

The chose to leave, and that's their choice, but they want their cake an eat it.

The entire RF is expert at presenting a face, playing a role, well I wonder what the heck they are doing now that Covid has allowed them all to stay at home for nigh on a year, and very few missed them at all IMV.

@stairway

I wonder how they will investigate it privately, will they have all the usual suspects in the room bar the Queen and Philip. Will it be a bit like cluedo?

They won’t dare do it on the phone or zoom.

Well if it's cluedo style, it has to be in the library surely.

YogaInTheory

I totally agree.

The baby I was referring to, is described by his relatives, (who dote on him) as coloured (older relatives though, I know the daughter and grandson through them), so I didn't think it was a problem. I wasn't sure which term to use in the end, so tried to put both (I forgot in my last paragraph though). I genuinely thought coloured was less offensive. Thank you for the correction, the last thing I want, is to unintentionally offend anyone.

One things for sure, none of them will utter a word verbally or written to H&M for a long time because the trust has been broken.

This is Harry who only surrounded himself with a small trusted circle of friends all his life and whom, to their credit, have never spoken a word about him publicly. He and William valued discretion and trust above everything else.

Now Harry does this to his brother. The one person William surely thought he could trust to the end. I don’t see how William will ever get over it. Even if they do try to forge some civility, he and Kate will be wary that every private note, every text, every photo could end up in the public domain when H&M run out of money hawking their tale off woe.

I do think the official statement is actually excellent. Someone has earned their salary crafting that, there’s not a word out of place.

Knives out!
It is sad that it's ended this way. The brothers and Kate were so close once.
Family rifts are hard to come back from whatever happened here :(

I wonder how they will investigate it privately

With a hell of a lot of lawyers hanging over their shoulders probably, and I suspect their questions might be just a bit more challenging the Oprah's

Of course, whether it will remain private is something else again, if last night's anything to go by

“It is sad that it's ended this way. The brothers and Kate were so close once.
Family rifts are hard to come back from whatever happened here”

I hope Harry is prepare for that. He has a lovely new family he can focus on.

[quote Cokie3]@AliceLives2021 Anyone who believes anything Samantha said is a gullible fool indeed. And simply desperate for Confirmation Bias, while throwing logic and all reason aside.

Add in the sexism of "SHE split him from his family", rather than a man defending his wife's honour above all else, which, after all, is what we laud men on here for, and call them spineless when they won't stand up to their mother/family who is upsetting their wife.

The sexism, misogyny and blatant hypocrisy (based almost 100% on RACISM, in my view, this thread and others like it have proved that to me in spades) and cognitive dissonance on here is unreal. Harry is doing what we all advocate HUSBANDS DO on here. But because it's Meghan, the husband standing up to his mother/family and defending his wife all of a sudden is a 'bad' thing. You people are such hypocrites you can't even see it.

Meghan didn't 'split his family up', her HUSBAND decided to step up and put his WIFE and child first![/quote]
Well said