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Oprah is annoying me already.

Yeah, he was ashamed to ask for help, why? She didn't trust anyone either. She might have been paranoid. He should have asked for her to be assessed.

Would you trust them, in their position? As an institution? The rf haven't exactly got a great track record with the softer skills side of things. I can well imagine it would be a difficult subject to broach.

@teentipans

Plus, she is worth several millions is she not? He apparently has at the very least £10 million, possibly up to £40million. Is Netflix really a necessity? I'm not saying they shouldn't do it - do what they like, but his cousins haven't inherited what he has and they seem to be able to pay for their lives and security just fine

Which cousins? Some were paid for & H was left 10m by his mum apparently. E & B security was costing 0.5m a yr so you can see how it adds up.

B and E don't have their security paid for from the royal purse do they? Zara, Peter? Idk?

It does add up I guess, but I bet they would make enough in interest each year on their fortunes and investments to pay for it. Plus they "could" buy a modest house outright, live a normal life and their own real outgoing different to you or me would be security.

@user1471448866 🤣. I was thinking very young, you were thinking very drunk. And we're both perfectly ghastly no doubt. And jealous bitches of course

I am wondering what lies the RF have told to protect other members. What was she insinuating?
There was very little that was positive about them. M could have given a more balanced view, talked about the ways in which she was made welcome.
There is a lot of talk about ‘they’. Who are ‘they’? The courtiers? Charles and William?
Who was asked to help and what help were they looking for? Recommendations for psychotherapists / money/a war with the Press?
It is very unclear. They are both very angry about the issue of protection and the title, but those decisions are made by the Queen. Why then are they not angry with the Queen but with ‘them’?
Why does Harry feel let down by Charles specifically?
Who was jealous of their tour in Australia, and what memories did it being back ? There’s a lot of insinuating and vagueness . I found the interview very frustrating.
Why did Oprah not ask about the renovations for Frogmore it the letter written to Ms Dad? Why was M not challenged when she mentioned having ‘lost’ her Dad?
Why was H not asked why he hadn’t bothered to meet Ms father?
It wasn’t a very searching interview really. They threw a lot of mud , but we’re not sure where it’s aimed or why.
Why didn’t Harry feel he could talk to his family about what was happening, specifically William who champions mental health charities? Why would W not have understood and helped?

It seems clear it was a horrendous comment by one person, and one person alone. That does not make the entire royal family racists. It could been anyone within the royal family, which includes many elderly and peripheral members.

I don't think they said that the comment made the whole family racists it was more the ignoring of all the racist press that was the issue & the fact in their minds stories were getting leaked that fuelled this.

Harry looks shit tbh - so she’s suicidal and you get her no help? Did I hear that right? They sound hopeless - I don’t mean that in an unkind way. Like he looks to his family to sort everything, but why don’t you get off your backside and help her? This vagueness about “I asked the people I should’ve asked”, who? Also... tell us who made the racist statement! Jesus Christ what’s the point. So we’re all stuck here with a potentially racist royal family and you’re not telling us shit really. You’re blowing up bridges but with no real help to the rest of us or letting us change anything. Fine you’ve done what you think is right by your wife and kid but what about literally everyone else in the UK and commonwealth? It’s not fair to us for serious allegations to be raised so vaguely and then left there - tell us you imbecile.

@Lipz

The bit I'm confused about is Megan saying she asked for help, Harry asked for help for her, they both asked for help and we're refused. Then Harry comes into interview saying, no he didn't ask for help as it isn't the done thing and that he was ashamed to ask for help.

Yes that didn’t add up.

I am wondering what lies the RF have told to protect other members. What was she insinuating?

Andrews involvement took a long time to come out & there was a thread on here about an affair which was not in the UK press apparently.

@hansgrueber

Hate to disappoint you but the UK is very racist.

I do hope you include racism directed at the white community in predominently black areas ir are you one of the idiots who insist that a black person cannot be racist?

That is prejudice. It isn't racism.

I've lived in a country where I was very very much the minority i experienced prejudice, but not racism. I was still a white person in a world where white people dominate. I didn't have to fight institutions, I didn't get looked over for work, I did not earn less than my non-white counterparts. Racism is structural.

@GoLightlyontheEarth. I agree it was a frustrating interview, without a shred of journalism in it. Ok Oprah wasn't going to go full Paxman on it but it generated more heat than light. A few simple 'who's' would have tightened things up considerably

Secondly absolutely bullshit about “oh I just fell into Netflix”. Harry you touted her for work at a Disney premier, when you should’ve been at a military event. Absolute bull.

I find him weird - he loves her, but I don’t forget his use of the P word. No one seems to care. A pp saying oh she got to marry a prince... yeah look at what they’re like as people, he was a racist twat (possibly still is) using slurs and dressing as hitler. Not a high bar there.

I can believe the hydrate thing.

I can imagine it's something Meghan says - she did look embarrassed about how he's picked that one up.

I have to say despite my earlier fears he was totally controlled by her I do actually think they are genuinely in love. Much more so than W and K. I do still think she's more of a driving force and more open in speaking but that's life experience. His life was carved for him and she's carved her own.

He's actually taken a big step to do what he did and shows he's got more bottle than most of them!

I think it's very credible that things were said at different times and they're both giving their own recollections

I'd have thought so myself if it wasn't for the fact that they both emphasised a conversation (and a very shocking one at that) rather than ongoing chit chat

It's obviously impossible to know whether it was "fabricated" or not - especially as they've chosen not to name names - and it's one of those things which we'll probably never find out

I think the fact Harry didn't feel he could ask for help as it isn't the done thing is actually telling.

He said himself its game face on. That's a long ole life to live it by what's expected but bit by you're feelings

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I think it's very credible that things were said at different times and they're both giving their own recollections

I'd have thought so myself if it wasn't for the fact that they both emphasised a conversation (and a very shocking one at that) rather than ongoing chit chat

It's obviously impossible to know whether it was "fabricated" or not - especially as they've chosen not to name names - and it's one of those things which we'll probably never find out

I don't imagine it was fabricated, but more that it serves a different narrative to each of them.

@Kikitheparot

The racist remark by a royal has been given centre stage.

1. Harry and Megan do not agree when it was said. Megan claiming it was made when she was pregnant and is relevant to Archie’s lack of title. Harry (to whom the comment was made) saying it was early in their relationship.

1. They have said that it was not said by the Queen or DofE. Any change to protocol would be the Queen’s decision. Clearly the decision maker on titles and the racist were different people, and Megan is aware of this. It is therefore a huge leap to directly connect that racist comment with the lack of title.

1. It seems clear it was a horrendous comment by one person, and one person alone. That does not make the entire royal family racists. It could been anyone within the royal family, which includes many elderly and peripheral members.

Harry and Megan need to name the person so that a proper investigation can be conducted.

Agree

@itsgettingwierd

I can believe the hydrate thing.

I can imagine it's something Meghan says - she did look embarrassed about how he's picked that one up.

I have to say despite my earlier fears he was totally controlled by her I do actually think they are genuinely in love. Much more so than W and K. I do still think she's more of a driving force and more open in speaking but that's life experience. His life was carved for him and she's carved her own.

He's actually taken a big step to do what he did and shows he's got more bottle than most of them!

I have no special insight but I think there is a more genuine and healthy relationship between Catherine and William who have of course been together a very long time comparatively speaking and are clearly more reserved in character. Harry and Meghan? We'll see and I wish them well but if they do as well as C and W do and seem in 10 or 15 years time I'll be surprised

The bit I'm confused about is Megan saying she asked for help, Harry asked for help for her, they both asked for help and we're refused. Then Harry comes into interview saying, no he didn't ask for help as it isn't the done thing and that he was ashamed to ask for help

Stupidly, I completely missed that inconsistency ... again, since it concerned such a traumatic matter, it's odd to see their stories at such variance

Yes name the person!!!! Otherwise we’re all sat here like twerps paying a racist to be a royal. It’s not on.

Harry said he didn't talk about her struggles with his family because he felt ashamed.

Not that he didn't ask the institution for help.

People are just making stuff up.

not naming names is the worst.

The whole interview was so boring I nearly fell asleep. So many inconsistencies! Maybe thats the reason he was only in part of it - disaster! Shes used to acting on camera, but hes not. poor Harry!

I'm confused. Meghan said the racist remark was only made at the beginning of the relationship but then goes on to say there were conversations at tandem with the whole protection/Prince title debacle. So which was it?

I found it all very confusing

The press and royal family are intwined? And yet over the years the press have given every member of the royal family a bad time , including Charles, fergie etc.

When was the racist comment made ? Could it have been more a warning that the press would give them a hard time ?

The wedding before was not a real wedding was it ? Plus if they had wanted a small wedding I am sure the tax payers would not have complained?

She is an independent woman I am sure she could have sought the right help for her problems .

They have succeeded to break away on their own ? Not without Harry’s inheritance they would have not .

They are authentic ? They live in a very expensive big house ?

Why did she write so many emails and letters ? Evidence ?

Harry said as a child he was not free just to ride a bike ? They had hundreds or even thousands of private acres to play on?

So much more contradictory stuff.

I do agree with one thing our press is the worst in the world and we are fools to put up with it . The rest I can sympathise with some of it but some of it did not make sense .