Sit tight, she’s on...

[HeathIns]

Oprah is annoying me already.

Kate was PG during the wedding prep, she probably just snapped, as many Pg women do and sent flowers because she was sorry that wouldn't make as much mileage though eh

Uk is definitely racist In the higher classes. I married into a higher class and I’m not naming who but someone in my DH family likes to announce at gatherings I’m the house maid. People laugh and think it’s funny because their just “joking” DH gets very annoyed and I used to but then I just got labelled as an angry black women. I just don’t attend gatherings much anymore if I can help it.

@GCSE2024

Didn't see her passport? Except for her New York trips

Let us not forget MM is an actress...

Do you really think Royal members line up and physically hold and show their passports? If so, you are quite naive. They have people that have all that pre-okayed. These people don't line up at checkin!

@teentipans yes he pays for it now that they are adults but I think that the decision to stop funding them also came with the slimming down of monarchy drive- the RF looked to appear to reduce the pressure on the public purse. I will check.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/7839296/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-cry-princess-charlotte-royal-wedding-dress/amp/

www.newidea.com.au/royal-christening-baby-archie-meghan-markle-prince-harry-godparents-kate-middleton-flees-church-crying

This is why the story was bought up!

Why can't M say it wasn't true?

@MsTSwift

Dh and I wondering wandering what their game plan is as they are really burning their bridges here particularly Harry.

I’m not really bothered one way or the other, however I do think it’s interesting she left him to burn his bridges so publicly, yet she remained very tight lipped about her feud with her father and half sister/brother.

I think we all know who the brains of the operation is here

Did Meghan 'lose' her Dad over him going to the press? I thought that was why she was so pissed with some of her family? Does she not see how doing a whole ass televised interview to millions of people is the same thing?

It seems a bit weird to me that it's 'telling her truth' when she sells her story about Harrys family but an awful unforgivable thing when her family did it.

Absolutely bizarre interview. I am reeling in shock at the whole thing tbh and this has opened up a can of worms which my brain is struggling to unscramble.

What was the aim?
What are the protocols?
Whos telling the truth?
Is this really about race? I will be honest I struggle with the race thing as to me she reads the same colour as nearly every other white person who has a tan for photogenic reasons.
Whats the timeline? We talk of conversations going on for two years when I thought they had only been married for two years.
Help for mental health? Not surprised she was down but surprised they couldnt get help especially considering she was pregnant and we all know about pregnancy related acute illness.

Struggling struggling. Minds boggled.

I think they are coming across well.

I agree with him that he inherited the title of Prince and with that comes security.

I also think he's telling the truth about Netflix etc not being a plan but a necessity.

I don't think they've thrown anyone under the bus. He's so lovely about the queen.

@teentipans

And as for her - how dare she feel suicidal over nothing worse than a bit of adverse press.

wtf, seriously?

Sorry - I realise that might not be appropriate in all cases. I'm not trying to dismiss genuine MH issues in any way, just not sure that Meghan isn't blowing things up out of proportion due to actressy behaviour etc.

I am sceptical about her motives and actions (maybe wrongly) - but wouldn't try to suggest generally that I could judge what people may find upsetting. Sorry.

Hhhmmm I'm more confused than anything to be honest. I've always thought she was great and that it was awful that they felt they had to leave, but I feel a bit weird after watching this. I just had a really strong sense she was acting for a lot if it. I don't doubt it was awful for her, that she was having suicidal thoughts, and that there iscracism within the institution of the RF, but some things just seem off.

Why wasn't Harry there from the beginning of the interview? Was it because they would not have been able to present a united front on some subjects? The conversation about skin tone for example - M seemed to be saying that took place whilst she was pregnant at the same time it was explained to them that their baby wouldn't get a title, but then Harry said this conversation did happen, but early on in the relationship before she was pregnant and not at a time they were discussing titles.

And of course the George V convention of not giving the monarch's grandchildren titles, except those expected to be King or Queen. Archie had nothing removed from him. It's an odd narrative to drive when it's so easily explained. William's children were given titles by special notice from the Queen, but Zara's, Peter's, and Eugenie's children don't have them and surely no one expects their own child to be given special standing?
Then there was the wedding thing - you can't have a wedding without witnesses?

It's all just a bit yucky - on all sides.
I hope they can all get passed it and move on separately and be happy, because I'm pretty sure none of them are feeling good right now (except maybe Oprah).

@Cokie3 if she didn't need it then why was not having it such a big deal then?

@Scrambledbeans I know the RF wanted to slim down.

Meghan actually explained it was the convention and his future right.

I'm sure people are only listening to what they want to hear.

@TaylorSwaft

Chocolatesanta there seemed to be some petty gripes and point scoring in amongst some massive swipes.

It was a bit 'mean girl' yes she's lovely and alluring and intelligent and articulate....

But if you make an allegation so enormous with such massive potential for repercussions as the race one, which is breathtaking, it needs to be properly made.

It's very manipulative to say it was said to Harry, repeated back to Meghan but then not say who it originated from. It then vilifies the entire royal family, masterfully scything down the lot of them in the pretence of saving the face of the person who actually allegedly made the remark. A cowardly blow.

The dress thing and who made who cry is nonsense. Imagine the scene - bridezilla and brand new mum, spat over protocol and tights and what a princess of the realm should or shouldn't wear. Kate knows the rules - Meghan wants what she wants. Friction, tears all round. Harry probs asked Kate to make it better and she probably did. Who knows what happened. Who knows that Kate didn't go home and cry.

And that's the real issue here. There lots of guff about 'her truth' which is some fancy way of saying 'her version of events'

It's all a bit tragic and embarrassing for all involved.

You say the whole dress thing is nonsense but for it a false story to be leaked out from royal sources weeks or months after it happened, smacks of the institution contributing to the horrendous abuse she received by the press.

But in sure you think Megan is lying about it being wrong.

Sorry but for that alone the Rf should have at least made a statement to say the story wasn't true. Because it wasn't just one article it was tens of articles assassinating her character over what you call 'nonsense. So if its all nonsense then the press abuse is quite disproportionate wouldn't you say?

Wow, sooo many jealous people on here, angry with Meghan for no reason. Yes you will never have her beauty, fame, or personality and you will never marry a prince who loves you and your babies more than anything. Accept it. She is a wonderful human being who was treated horribly by the our press and the RF. I really hope they have a beautiful life together with their children.

Just realised what the other big inconsistency was ... speaking alone, Meghan claimed that the conversation about what the baby's skin colour might be happened when she was pregnant, but later on Harry informed us it was "right at the start"

If that really happened in the way they presented it I'd have thought it would be so shocking, and gone over so often between them, that there's be no way either could forget when it was ... and yet their accounts didn't match

@teentipans

I think it is possible to believe that the Royal Family are racist snobs and the British tabloid press racist bullies, while also thinking Meghan is a complete drama queen. This is a clash of cultures.

I think this is very possible

Yes I believe it's possible for both sides to be at fault here.

I totally believed the bit that people within the palace briefed against Meghan in order to deflect or obscure press stories against themselves or their bosses.

Sadly I can believe all too well the racism in aristocrats of Charles' and Camilla's generation.

I believe someone could potentially be suicidal if they are living in a different country to their own, pregnant, confined to barracks, having horrible vile stories published about them in the press

Not so convincing was M saying that she never Googled H.

Not so convincing that she was given no help at all about etiquette. Why didn't Harry buy her a Debretts or something at the very least?

Not so convincing about the security issue and the inheritance of titles (just hire your own, RF is being slimmed down)

Strange about being married before . Presumably the Archbishop of Canterbury could verify?

It really threw Kate under the bus in a very unfair way I thought.

I hope their marriage endures because Harry has totally burned all his bridges there.

The only genuine moment in the whole interview was when they were talking about Archie. The rest of it was completely fake a rehearsed.
The whole link to Ariel from the little
Mermaid was a particular low.
And why didn't they discuss her family at all? Most of the bad press I've read about her has either been about her family or focused on how demanding she is. I don't doubt that there have been some racist remarks but absolutely nowhere near the level that they've suggested.

@Thewordgame

Wow, sooo many jealous people on here, angry with Meghan for no reason. Yes you will never have her beauty, fame, or personality and you will never marry a prince who loves you and your babies more than anything. Accept it. She is a wonderful human being who was treated horribly by the our press and the RF. I really hope they have a beautiful life together with their children.

😂😂😂😂😂

It'sgettinfweird of course they are lovely about the Queen.

What granny gave she can take away.

And they are lawyered up to the hilt, of course, so sticking to the script.

Plus, she is worth several millions is she not? He apparently has at the very least £10 million, possibly up to £40million. Is Netflix really a necessity? I'm not saying they shouldn't do it - do what they like, but his cousins haven't inherited what he has and they seem to be able to pay for their lives and security just fine.

@sugarlost

If Kate made her cry over not being happy with the flower girl dresses...it's a bit much but I guess there's two sides to the story

I think it was the week of her wedding, all that pressure and the whole situation with her dad. Just one of those moments that touch a nerve? And then it was put out as a story that she'd been the one to make Kate cry. They could have put that story to bed a long time ago, but didn't. Must be a bit galling to be accused of being mean to a pregnant lady and nobody says anything to correct that impression.