Harry & Meghan - to hope the Royals answer back?

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I think the allegations in the Oprah interview are serious enough that protocol should be breached and the Royals should have a voice to give their side too.

Very weak and disappointing response from the palace. If they are investigating claims about Meghan being a bully... Surely they have to launch an investigation into the serious allegations of racism. To think that one of the senior royals - William, Charles, Kate or Camilla.. so close to the crown could pass such racist comments is disgusting and shameful. Symbolic gestures of supporting charities that support mental health and not offering support to your own family ... Absolutely despicable

M is a beautiful woman whose looks give a nod to mixed heritage. She plays the role that suits her that day.....pun intended.

I wonder, if Archie becomes a footballer, will Uncle William then give a shit about the racism Archie's already been subjected to?

What club level does he need to reach to deserve Uncle Will's concern? Would a wee kick about do the trick?

I think there's solid grounds for de-titling, maybe not right now because it would seem too spiteful but in near future. why should members of the RF that have gone on an American tv show and slandered members of the same family in the worst way possible, accusing them of racism etc and also airing petty squabbles that are the norm in most families (my sister in law once made me cry but then she apologised and sent flowers and owned up to it! smaller violin playing) AND who are not working royals be allowed to represent the monarchy in future.

@user1978366282

I think there's solid grounds for de-titling, maybe not right now because it would seem too spiteful but in near future. why should members of the RF that have gone on an American tv show and slandered members of the same family in the worst way possible, accusing them of racism etc and also airing petty squabbles that are the norm in most families (my sister in law once made me cry but then she apologised and sent flowers and owned up to it! smaller violin playing) AND who are not working royals be allowed to represent the monarchy in future.

The reason that incident was discussed was to highlight the way false stories were allowed to go uncorrected and a narrative was created about Meghan. That was very clear from the context of the interview. The story in question was widely reported and, if I recall, discussed on here.

Secondly - slandering the family. So you think what they've said is an out and out lie, that's what you're saying?

Tbh I think that Prince Charles has been a disappointment and has come across as an extremely weak man

The reason that incident was discussed was to highlight the way false stories were allowed to go uncorrected and a narrative was created about Meghan. That was very clear from the context of the interview. The story in question was widely reported and, if I recall, discussed on here.

Meghan herself said Kate was upset "about something"-but then flipped it around to make it about her, because everything always has to be about her. Basically Kate's feelings don't matter, she was upset but never mind that, it made ME cry!

AspiringMatriach I dont think it was an out and out lie.

Neither H or M said what was said, so it may have been racist, it might not. Harry did not call it racist, just implied it.

He has dropped enough suspision to condemn everyone in the RF, without giving anyone the opportunity to clear their name.

I bet the Firm are seething!

BalancedIndividual

Tbh, why doesnt the queen just strip harry of his royal titles?

But the best response would be to simply say that they are not going to play these childish games or respond to false accusations“

How do you know they are false?

@Reearry

Very weak and disappointing response from the palace. If they are investigating claims about Meghan being a bully... Surely they have to launch an investigation into the serious allegations of racism. To think that one of the senior royals - William, Charles, Kate or Camilla.. so close to the crown could pass such racist comments is disgusting and shameful. Symbolic gestures of supporting charities that support mental health and not offering support to your own family ... Absolutely despicable

The claims of bullying have been made by staff members, so that is an issue for ‘The Firm’ to investigate, as employers.

Harry’s allegations of a racist conversation (or conversations - plural - let’s face it, even H&M can’t get that bit of the story straight) are against a family member so that is totally an issue for ‘The Family’ to deal with however they wish, and if they feel it’s best dealt with in private that is their perogative.

@JingsMahBucket Summarised the title issue perfectly.

The issue with Archie that they felt was racist is this

When Charles ascends to the throne, his grandchildren would then be called princes and princesses. This is the usual rule everyone keeps talking about. In this case, Archie, seeing as how William’s children had been given a special allocation already

H & M’s complaint that while Meghan was pregnant was the RF and the institution wanted to change the rules to deliberately not give Archie the title of prince when Charles became king, thus stripping Archie of his rightful title of prince. That’s why they were implying it was backhanded prejudice

The Royal family as an institution were looking to remove the right of the first mixed race blood royal to gain a title when his grandfather becomes King. Now think about how that plays out in the commonwealth and ethnic minority groups across the UK.

*The reason that incident was discussed was to highlight the way false stories were allowed to go uncorrected and a narrative was created about Meghan. That was very clear from the context of the interview. The story in question was widely reported and, if I recall, discussed on here.
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Right, so she decided to be specific and came up with this particular incidence where the palace didn't correct the media. So what was the palace supposed to do, come out with a statement saying oh no Kate didn't make Meghan cry, Meghan made Kate cry. how pathetic for mid-30s women to be airing petty domestic disputes like they're in some mean girls movie. I thought it was pathetic to bring that up as an example.

As for believing them, I absolutely do not believe them. There are SO many inconsistencies in their stories, so many contrived statements just so they can fit within the narrative of this Ariel the Disney princess falling in love with her prince and losing her voice, the world against them and jealous of MM because she did so well in her south africa tour that RF was jealous, basically trying to make her out to be the present day Diana etc etc. She admitted herself that they were very welcoming to her at the beginning, so what, did they just wake up one day and decide to be racist!

@Reearry

Very weak and disappointing response from the palace. If they are investigating claims about Meghan being a bully... Surely they have to launch an investigation into the serious allegations of racism. To think that one of the senior royals - William, Charles, Kate or Camilla.. so close to the crown could pass such racist comments is disgusting and shameful. Symbolic gestures of supporting charities that support mental health and not offering support to your own family ... Absolutely despicable

The bullying was a employee issue

The racist stuff is family matter

Can you investigate a matter between two/three family members?

If Kate did indeed do wrong and send flowers, I’d be glad to have her as a sister in law. I’ll never forget the scene outside the church in Sandringham when W kept playing with his scarf and ignoring M and then K came up and started chatting to M. I think the real clash came between M and W.

The Royal family as an institution were looking to remove the right of the first mixed race blood royal to gain a title when his grandfather becomes King. Now think about how that plays out in the commonwealth and ethnic minority groups across the UK.

So Meghan says.........

Do you really think they would be daft enough to do this even if they wanted too?

"I think the real clash came between M and W."

Could be, although of course that doesn't make him racist.

But them not getting on or even worse not being able to pretend to would drive the brothers apart.

The reason that incident was discussed was to highlight the way false stories were allowed to go uncorrected and a narrative was created about Meghan. That was very clear from the context of the interview. The story in question was widely reported and, if I recall, discussed on here.

That’s the point. All stories, including the current claims, go uncorrected. I’m sure Kate, Prince Charles and even the Queen have lots of “corrections” for the press about the bollocks talked about them. They don’t engage because that’s the only way to deal with stupid.

@Thewinterofdiscontent

The reason that incident was discussed was to highlight the way false stories were allowed to go uncorrected and a narrative was created about Meghan. That was very clear from the context of the interview. The story in question was widely reported and, if I recall, discussed on here.

That’s the point. All stories, including the current claims, go uncorrected. I’m sure Kate, Prince Charles and even the Queen have lots of “corrections” for the press about the bollocks talked about them. They don’t engage because that’s the only way to deal with stupid.

They responded to claims that Kate had botox and also about her hair. At the very same time all of these things were being spewed about Meghan.

Very weak and disappointing response from the palace. If they are investigating claims about Meghan being a bully... Surely they have to launch an investigation into the serious allegations of racism. To think that one of the senior royals - William, Charles, Kate or Camilla.. so close to the crown could pass such racist comments is disgusting and shameful. Symbolic gestures of supporting charities that support mental health and not offering support to your own family ... Absolutely despicablem
Don't they need to know who said it first?
And they have said they are looking into things but between the family not in public as if it was a family member to another family member thats not the same as staff raising a grievance
Also I am sure I read they are looking at their bullying protocol as such rather than directly at anyone

^The claims of bullying have been made by staff members, so that is an issue for ‘The Firm’ to investigate, as employers.

Harry’s allegations of a racist conversation (or conversations - plural - let’s face it, even H&M can’t get that bit of the story straight) are against a family member so that is totally an issue for ‘The Family’ to deal with however they wish, and if they feel it’s best dealt with in private that is their perogative^

^The bullying was a employee issue

The racist stuff is family matter

Can you investigate a matter between two/three family members?^

How can this be a private family matter when the family is the firm? The business of the firm/ institution is to prop up the family. Their entire identity and the reason for being in the public eye is based off of being born into the "right" family. They represent UK to the world. The Queen is the head of the British state and Charles is going to be the head of commonwealth. If one of the prominent members of the family is a racist or a pedophile... Surely this is a matter of public enquiry. They do not get to hide behind the veil of being a "private family matter" when they cost the British tax payers £69.4 million in 2020.Are we paying racists and pedophiles to represent us to the world? Absolutely disgusting and shameful ....

How can this be a private family matter when the family is the firm? The business of the firm/ institution is to prop up the family. Their entire identity and the reason for being in the public eye is based off of being born into the "right" family. They represent UK to the world. The Queen is the head of the British state and Charles is going to be the head of commonwealth. If one of the prominent members of the family is a racist or a pedophile... Surely this is a matter of public enquiry. They do not get to hide behind the veil of being a "private family matter" when they cost the British tax payers £69.4 million in 2020.Are we paying racists and pedophiles to represent us to the world? Absolutely disgusting and shameful
One person doesn't make them all racist though and also don't you need proof , they haven't even named the person , how do you investigate person unknown on a conversation that was between two people as far as we know ?

@diddl

"I think the real clash came between M and W."

Could be, although of course that doesn't make him racist.

But them not getting on or even worse not being able to pretend to would drive the brothers apart.

I wouldn’t want to imply he was a racist- there’s no factual basis.

There's another racist in that family you know I've been reading up on it.. the duchess of Kent maybe it was her, wearing racist broaches to events that meghan was at, father was a nazi officer several racist incidents in the past not to be confused with the lovely Princess of Kent who worked secretly as a music teacher for 10 years love her (unless it's the other way round I don't actually know) anyway if it was her she is minor royal they could just blame Andrew he is in enough trouble as it is a bit more won't hurt

You've muddles the 2 Kents. Princess Michael is the Nazi's daughter and has questionable views about a lot of things. The Duchess is the lovely one who likes a quiet life.

@longwayoff yes I thought I may have, I thought they were one person until today! Anyway princess anne is also someone I could imagine being outspoken and saying what she thinks just like her dad I hope we get to find out bet we don't. Perhaps Harry is blaming camilla and has grudges (who could blame him) who knows