Harry and Meghan court dramas (not Suits)

[ARoseInHarlem]

Starting this thread while I digest the last few posts on the previous thread. I think the H&M saga could be as unsettling for the RF as the Charles & Diana bad publicity in the 1990s, if not worse.

fly on the wall

I think they might ask for it to be deferred for another year in view of CV scuppering their plans to become global leaders and billionaires. Still it's a long time till next year. Anything could happen.

I would love to be a fly on the wall for the yearly review meeting ...

I wonder if it'll be pushed back because Covid's prevented them from being able to build a suitable new life for themselves?

Snap, vivienne

I think any newly wed posting on Mumsnet about the family she's married into would be advised to go low contact

Marrying into a dysfunctional family wasn't the whole story though, Meghan could not have more clearly been marrying into a role at "The Firm" and if Harry didn't make that clear to her then he is hugely at fault. But, genuinely, what advice do you think Mumsnet would give to someone posting about the new job they've just started, in middle management in a publicly-scrutinised enterprise, where they are hugely frustrated about how senior management expect them to comply with the existing rules and control framework. And the CEO just won't let them do exactly what they want. And they have to get sign-off to start new initiatives. And how Comms should be doing what they want, not thinking of the firm as a whole...

Nothing to add (sorry). Just markleing marking my place so i can find you again.

I think maybe M wasn’t willing to hear any ‘negativity’ . She said as much to friends who tried to advise her. Maybe H tried hard to warn her but she didn’t want to hear it. Who knows.

what advice do you think Mumsnet would give to someone posting about the new job they've just started, in middle management in a publicly-scrutinised enterprise, where they are hugely frustrated about how senior management expect them to comply with the existing rules and control framework. And the CEO just won't let them do exactly what they want. And they have to get sign-off to start new initiatives. And how Comms should be doing what they want, not thinking of the firm as a whole...

Yes exactly this!

Maybe H tried hard to warn her but she didn’t want to hear it.

Given that marrying into The Firm had been an insurmountable hurdle with his previous serious relationships, and he was desperate to settle down, I don't think he tried very hard to warn her off. Quite the reverse. He had every incentive to make her think it could all be easily sorted to her liking.

You may be right, Buttery, but if so he's an even bigger fool than I took him for
To take someone he barely knew, with almost no common experience, from a background as toxic as his own and to marry them in such haste was always likely to be a one way ticket to a nightmare

I think MM did think herself on an equal footing with C and I can understand why.

In Charles' much talked about slimmed down monarchy, Andrew, the Queen's second son, was out, but Harry, his own, was in. The core team of the Queen, Charles and Camilla, and William and Harry and their wives didn't appear to draw any distinction between the two brothers. Understandable that MM might think of herself as C's equal in terms of status, and maybe a bit of a shock to find that in the eyes of the palace, she wasn't.

It was set to be a disaster from day one. I heard H was dating an American actress. Then I heard they were engaged and I thought whatever is he thinking about. Then all that fiasco with Thomas and none of her relatives except Doris being invited to the wedding.

Maybe H tried hard to warn her but she didn’t want to hear it.

The opposite if anything. It looks like he couldn't marry her fast enough and get her pregnant fast enough. I think he was really hurt that Chelsy and Cressida were wise enough to choose their own lives. It looks like he didn't think any of it tgrough st all.

It's Doria actually. Not Doris.

I personally don't want it to be a disaster, I want it work. It is early days whatever anyone says.

Was the fallout really down to money and power?

I personally don't want it to be a disaster, I want it work. It is early days whatever anyone says.

Who does? It would be far better all round if they could make a go of their life in LA.

@ButteryPuffin

Maybe H tried hard to warn her but she didn’t want to hear it.

Given that marrying into The Firm had been an insurmountable hurdle with his previous serious relationships, and he was desperate to settle down, I don't think he tried very hard to warn her off. Quite the reverse. He had every incentive to make her think it could all be easily sorted to her liking.

I think he was desperate to marry her before she understood exactly was she was taking on, and changed her mind.

I think she was desperate to marry him before he found out what she is really like, and changed his mind.

Actually, they deserve each other.

It would be far better all round if they could make a go of their life in LA

Good. We agree

@HarryDaylight

Was the fallout really down to money and power?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was. The history books are littered with stories of powerful Royal Houses that have crumbled due to a lust for money, power and wanton desires.

Yes I agree. I'd like to see them make a go of it as well. Unfortunately this lawsuit suggests they keep looking back in anger.

Well the RF have no shortage of lust for money, power and wanton desires, you can't single H&M out on that

I think they want different things. She wasn't happy in the UK and I can't see Harry being happy in LA.

I think he was desperate to marry her before she understood exactly was she was taking on, and changed her mind.

I think she was desperate to marry him before he found out what she is really like, and changed his mind.

I agree that Harry was desperate to marry and have children, and was at the stage where someone he was attracted to saying yes was all it took.

As for Meghan, I find it hard to believe that she married him for another other than his title, family and connections. Whilst he has more money than many of us, he isn’t as rich as some of the circles Meghan will have been in and I don’t think it’s his personality/IQ/looks that people find attractive.

I think Meghan’s biggest mistake was treating us, the British people, like the audience that make up much of Hollywood’s admirers.

In Hollywood, which was obviously the world she aspired to belong to her whole life before she met Harry, the audience is adoring of their stars and media spin is the norm. And audiences lap it up.

But whilst Harry’s position as a member of the British Royal Family is, yes world famous, any adoration needs to be earned in real ways not just sound bites and virtue signalling.

If you consistently piss off the subjects of the Queen then they are going to call you out on it.

Actually I rather like it. I hope Andrew and HaM are reasons that people of the UK will realise what a farce the “Crown” is.

As for Meghan, I find it hard to believe that she married him for another other than his title, family and connections.

If that is true, his appeal will have waned significantly now.