Harry and Meghan court dramas (not Suits)

[ARoseInHarlem]

Starting this thread while I digest the last few posts on the previous thread. I think the H&M saga could be as unsettling for the RF as the Charles & Diana bad publicity in the 1990s, if not worse.

But that said, I think it was probably a way of trying to be kind and give him an "out" for the stress of making a speech. Lots of people would find that nerve-racking at the best of times, let alone at a wedding packed with the kind of guests that would have been at that one.

Just remembered - didn't MM's dad say he would give an interview every month till she spoke to him?

H is not broke.

Were there not numerous reports that H&W were getting something like 2M per annum from PC private funds. I mean H was in the army for a decade, he still comes out not having to spend money on property, cars, etc. - he even wears the same jumper and suede oxfords. He must have spent money on the occasional partying with his rich friends. I bet huge chunks of their money was invested all over the place. I can see how PC would make sure of that.

One of the strangest royals shutting a story down was the alleged William affair (not suggesting he did have one).

The Sun ran an article on Kate and in one part they hinted at it (this article is now deleted). The Sun's Dan Wotton then went on to get several royal exclusives (he was not previously a royal reporter, The Sun's in house RR had to leave and go to the DM).

The Mail ran a Richard Kay piece refuting the rumours (Richard Kay has done several of these W&K pieces).
According to The Daily Beast, William's lawyers sent letters to various outlets stating - “In addition to being false and highly damaging, the publication of false speculation in respect of our clients’ private life also constitutes a breach of his privacy pursuant to Article 8 of the European Convention to Human Rights,” the letter read. They also stated that at least one British publication “has been served with legal warnings after publishing details of the rumors by the royals’ lawyers of choice.”
Giles Coren tweeted that the affair was known amongst the Norfolk set. He then deleted it and said that lawyers had been in touch.
A female journalist also had to delete related tweets.
If you try to find any William affair article, there's almost nothing left, esp in the British media.

@CallmeAngelina

But that said, I think it was probably a way of trying to be kind and give him an "out" for the stress of making a speech. Lots of people would find that nerve-racking at the best of times, let alone at a wedding packed with the kind of guests that would have been at that one.

I can't imagine being so cruel to my father who was not alive when I married. I would have given him the option to give a speech, even though he was in ill health, and certainly never ever told him there was no time for him to speak.

harry the post about the judge is actually the most ridiculous thing I've read on here.

How about I just post the screenshot that the judge was involved with ppl in the case? Would that make you feel better @myrtleWilson

I did not say the judge was corrupt. All I know is that in other countries they would not let a judge or jury who had been involved with the ppl on the case anywhere near that case. They are human after all.

@myrtleWilson

You sure sound worked up over the judge when all the lies and 'speculation' on MM on this thread could easily be considered defamation.

You clearly inferred that the reason H&M would lose the case was because of an alleged exiting relationship with the defendants.

I'm fine though, so need to concern yourself on my account.

@Mummy195

How about I just post the screenshot that the judge was involved with ppl in the case? Would that make you feel better *@myrtleWilson*

I did not say the judge was corrupt. All I know is that in other countries they would not let a judge or jury who had been involved with the ppl on the case anywhere near that case. They are human after all.

So you have implied that the judge is corrupt?

Am not sure I do sound worked up @Mummy195 - I was merely offering an opinion as to how your post sounded and whether it would be wise to request a deletion. But if you're confident in your knowledge then crack on.

Buttery they have only been in Canada/US since March and then Covid struck. What on earth do people expect in this short time with a pandemic raging? It's been a few months, travel restricted, life for everyone is not normal.

Why can't people give them a chance?

Harry I can't imagine a father giving such a ghastly interview about his daughter. Works both ways. He certainly doesn't cover himself in glory. The only two people who really know what it's all about is MM and him.

Giles Coren tweeted that the affair was known amongst the Norfolk set. He then deleted it and said that lawyers had been in touch.

Giles Coren is not in the Norfolk set - he’s v much Soho House set and not credible. I happen to know people with links to the Norfolk set and have heard that the Rose story was a malicious invention.

Meghan had a bee in her bonnet about Rose ever since she attended a state dinner (in a tiara, no less) with Harry after Meghan started dating him. Meghan had wanted to attend but was told No. Then there were pics of Harry and the beautiful Rose in the papers. And Meghan still hasn’t attended a state dinner in a tiara - I doubt she ever will now...

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-sits-next-kate-10786562

To be fair to Meghan she was pregnant or post partum for most of the time she was a working royal - it really wasn't very long at all. Difficult to dress well for most women during those times.

I thought that she looked at her best when pregnant.

I would imagine it’s very difficult to dress for some of the occasions required for women in the RF. The majority of dresses are designed for a particular figure that few women, excluding supermodels, have.

Standing up to give a wedding speech at a royal wedding would have been too much for him in my honest opinion, not to mention how stressful it would be for him even if he hadn't had the heart issue.

MM could have written his speech for him. I've seen some excellent FOTB speeches and some weak ones. It's not what people remember from a wedding. He wasn't wanted.

H is not broke.

Not yet but without substantial handouts he soon will be at their rate of spend.

@Cartesiandebt

Giles Coren tweeted that the affair was known amongst the Norfolk set. He then deleted it and said that lawyers had been in touch.

Giles Coren is not in the Norfolk set - he’s v much Soho House set and not credible. I happen to know people with links to the Norfolk set and have heard that the Rose story was a malicious invention.

Meghan had a bee in her bonnet about Rose ever since she attended a state dinner (in a tiara, no less) with Harry after Meghan started dating him. Meghan had wanted to attend but was told No. Then there were pics of Harry and the beautiful Rose in the papers. And Meghan still hasn’t attended a state dinner in a tiara - I doubt she ever will now...

I don’t think it’s true to say Rose attended with Harry as that implies they went as a couple. Rose was there with her husband and the seating arrangement meant that she sat next to Harry.

None of her uncles aunts cousins on Doria's side were invited either. One person from Meghans family among 600 guests. Why?

I did not say the judge was corrupt. All I know is that in other countries they would not let a judge or jury who had been involved with the ppl on the case anywhere near that case

As the post has been deleted I am having to guess at what it said, but given a later comment that you made (Maybe one who never represented the accused before?) you don't know much about the judicial system, then. The vast majority of judges in the UK (and in Commonwealth countries which follow the same model) are drawn from the ranks of senior barristers who are governed by the laws of the Bar Council. This means that they have to act like a taxi on a rank, taking the first client that engages them, without being able to decline the engagement. It is accordingly entirely common for senior barristers to have acted previously for parties now in dispute, and that it not seen to be a problem at all, either when they are barristers, or as judges.

I missed Mummy's comment before deletion but I can get the gist from the responses.

I can't decide whether to be amused or impressed at the blind devotion towards H&M by some posters - the young couple who can do no wrong and it's everybody else who is wrong. The posters on here, the RF, the press, now the judge. All in the wrong and mean as well.

Actually it reminds me of when I was 13 and people dared say anything even remotely negative about my favourite boyband. I just wasn't having any of it.

@Serenster

I did not say the judge was corrupt. All I know is that in other countries they would not let a judge or jury who had been involved with the ppl on the case anywhere near that case

As the post has been deleted I am having to guess at what it said, but given a later comment that you made (Maybe one who never represented the accused before?) you don't know much about the judicial system, then. The vast majority of judges in the UK (and in Commonwealth countries which follow the same model) are drawn from the ranks of senior barristers who are governed by the laws of the Bar Council. This means that they have to act like a taxi on a rank, taking the first client that engages them, without being able to decline the engagement. It is accordingly entirely common for senior barristers to have acted previously for parties now in dispute, and that it not seen to be a problem at all, either when they are barristers, or as judges.

The post mentioned family members.

So both Giles Coren and Meghan/Harry were part of the Soho house set? But Rose was in the Turnip Toffs with Will and Kate. is that it?

You clearly insinuated that the judge would not be impartial @Mummy195. No good trying to make out that others are getting 'worked up' as if they're the ones who've said something outrageous!