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The royal family

Harry and Meghan court dramas (not Suits)

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ARoseInHarlem · 02/07/2020 21:19

Starting this thread while I digest the last few posts on the previous thread. I think the H&M saga could be as unsettling for the RF as the Charles & Diana bad publicity in the 1990s, if not worse.

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Mummy195 · 04/07/2020 17:26

@eaumyword

H&M invited and arranged for TM and Doria to meet H when he would be in the US. Doria did, but TM did not show up.

It was one of the RRs, either Dickie A or Chris S who said that H had a schedule, security, diplomatic paperwork etc. for him to travel. He can travel, but everything has to be arranged, especially for certain countries (non- cw). I imagine he would not have time to hang around in the US waiting for TM to show up or not. Don't know.

TM lies over and over about talking to him on the phone, so that is not very well established.

When he hit the papers, H&M offered to have some ppl come down to him to help him deal with the fame and take care of him. He refused. Samantha convinced him to make money off of MM via tabloids.

He was invited to the wedding to walk MM down the aisle. MM arranged for transport, accommodation, suit fitting in London etc. He did not take it. They sent him txt messages begging him not to talk to the media and that another arrangement could be made ( I assume financial), he did not answer. He later went into hospital for a blocked battery and was discharged a day after his Cath.

Sittingontheveranda · 04/07/2020 17:29

I cannot think of anything (I see this englishlife has also mentioned this now) She has worn MD, slightly better designs.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/07/2020 17:30

Of all the 'fake stories' that MM has objected to in her legal filings, tiaragate has never been one of them

"Tiaragate" never really interested me, but I agree it's odd that it wasn't included in the court case; after all Meghan goes on throwing in everything bar the kitchen sink, even after the judge struck out a lot of irrelevancies

It'll be interesting to see how the various books due out this year will be received. If negatively, that'll no doubt be worth a few more court cases ...

Mummy195 · 04/07/2020 17:30

@Cartesiandebt

What is grasping about asking the main victim to testify. Considering that the so called sources have not even put their names on these supposed stories.

Mummy195 · 04/07/2020 17:32

blocked artery even.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/07/2020 17:34

He later went into hospital for a blocked battery

No need to correct it - we knew what you meant but it's still a brilliant typo Grin

Of course it would also have explained why TM didn't return messages ...

Eaumyword · 04/07/2020 17:35

[quote Mummy195]@eaumyword

H&M invited and arranged for TM and Doria to meet H when he would be in the US. Doria did, but TM did not show up.

It was one of the RRs, either Dickie A or Chris S who said that H had a schedule, security, diplomatic paperwork etc. for him to travel. He can travel, but everything has to be arranged, especially for certain countries (non- cw). I imagine he would not have time to hang around in the US waiting for TM to show up or not. Don't know.

TM lies over and over about talking to him on the phone, so that is not very well established.

When he hit the papers, H&M offered to have some ppl come down to him to help him deal with the fame and take care of him. He refused. Samantha convinced him to make money off of MM via tabloids.

He was invited to the wedding to walk MM down the aisle. MM arranged for transport, accommodation, suit fitting in London etc. He did not take it. They sent him txt messages begging him not to talk to the media and that another arrangement could be made ( I assume financial), he did not answer. He later went into hospital for a blocked battery and was discharged a day after his Cath.[/quote]
Thanks, useful recap. Also liked your fashion update on who's worn what (or whom!)
And for the record, I enjoyed your S&B RF posts on face distortions!Grin

OVienna · 04/07/2020 17:36

Puzzled right? I am sure she will chase up any negative books assiduously.

OVienna · 04/07/2020 17:37

If 'the facts' are incorrect, that is.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/07/2020 17:41

First you'd have to define what a "fact" is, OVIenna
I expect it's pretty clear to most of us, but not necessarily to this particular litigant

MillyDilly · 04/07/2020 17:43

@alliwantisagoodnightssleep

Really stupid question!

If H&M really did get paid $1 million dollars. How many “talks” would they have to do to become financially independent?

Considering H is already worth (or was) £40 million.

A billionaire lifestyle is not going to be gained from talks alone. What else are they capable of to produce the wealth they need for their lifestyle of McMansions, private jets and designer clothes.

Well this is clearly their problem. They aspire to a billionaire lifestyle but have no way of generating the dollars to facilitate it. They can’t afford a multi-million dollar LA mansion, private jet travel and 24/7 security on Call Me Harry’s £40m and her £5m that was quoted. They’ll blow through that in no time. Perhaps they just plan to carry on in the current vein. Ligging from wealthy acquaintances and poor old Charlie. Bit of a sad way though for a virtually middle-aged couple to behave.
MissEliza · 04/07/2020 17:51

Zara can be rubbish but I've found some little gems occasionally that I've worn for years. It's not the greatest shop to browse in either.

thisenglishlife · 04/07/2020 17:58

Some British brands worn by Meghan: Alexander McQueen, All Saints, Amanda Wakely, Antonio Berardi, ASOS, Barbour, Burberry, Charlotte Elizabeth (link to Prince's Trust), Charlotte Olympia, Demellier, ethical brand Edge of Ember, Emilia Wickstead, Erdem, Goat, Hobbs, Hunter, Jigsaw, Joseph, Madewell, M&S, Me&Em, Mulberry, Paul Andrew, ethical brand Pippa Small, Reebok, Reiss, Rejina Pyo, Safiyaa, Stella McCartney, Strathberry, Tabitha Simmons, Tamara Mellon, Topshop, Victoria Beckham, Wales Bonner and WNU

Some high street and non luxury brands worn by Meghan: Adidas, All Saints, ASOS, Banana Republic, Birdies, Community, Everlane, H&M, Hobbs, J Crew, Jigsaw, Joseph, Madewell, Massimo Dutti, M&S, Missoma, Nike, Reebok, Reiss, TNA, Topshop, WNU, Wolford tops and Zara

Some designer brands worn by Kate in her first year as a royal: Alexander McQueen, Alice Temperley, Amanda Wakely, Catherine Walker, Erdem, Jenny Packham, Matthew Williamson, Missoni, Roksanda Ilincic and Roland Mouret

The Zara (flat shoes, two dresses, perhaps other items), Barbour, Reebok and Nike pieces were those she was photographed in, but not worn to events or engagements (nor did I state they were)

mrscampbellblackagain · 04/07/2020 17:58

I think it was pretty poor and unwise for Harry to meet Thomas Markle before the wedding. And Harry's little comment about his family being the family Meghan had never experienced or something like that was also very unwise.

But this whole court case is just going to be a massive own goal. They are literally biting the hand that feeds them with the comment about being unsupported by the RF institution. Slagging off my boss in public has never been something I have done Wink Well not if I wanted to keep being paid.

Roussette · 04/07/2020 17:59

Ligging from wealthy acquaintances and poor old Charlie. Bit of a sad way though for a virtually middle-aged couple to behave
Nice Hmm
Ahhh.... yes, the middle aged comment again! Why don't you just call them a couple of old scroungers and be done with it?!

On a different note, I thought this article was interesting. Just how much the RF sue the press.
It isn't just M&H

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19599899

MillyDilly · 04/07/2020 18:04

Ahhh.... yes, the middle aged comment again! Why don't you just call them a couple of old scroungers and be done with it?!

I just think that it isn’t unreasonable to expect two people, aged 36 and 38 to be able to financially support their own life without substantial handouts from friends and parents. The trouble with H&M is that they think they’re entitled to live way beyond their means.

Roussette · 04/07/2020 18:06

I didn't know you had access to their bank accounts and knew they were stony broke and living off of handouts?

Cartesiandebt · 04/07/2020 18:15

Charles must really rue the day he agreed to walk Meghan Markle up the aisle.

Imagine telling her father that there was ‘no time’ to give a short speech at her wedding. I wonder how she would have handled it had he not had the heart attack and actually turned up.

I rather get the impression she is very embarrassed to be seen with even her closest family members if they don’t meet her narcissistic standards of perfection.

Mummy195 · 04/07/2020 18:16

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Cartesiandebt · 04/07/2020 18:19

Are you suggesting the judge is corrupt? I think it would be difficult to find any senior judge without close links to the establishment.

Rainbunny · 04/07/2020 18:21

Imagine telling her father that there was ‘no time’ to give a short speech at her wedding.

To be fair I understand MM's choice here. Having watched TM's interviews and that documentary it's clear that TM cannot speak well. He mumbles and seems very self conscious, he really does seem to have a hard time speaking clearly and I get the impression that it's age and health related.

Standing up to give a wedding speech at a royal wedding would have been too much for him in my honest opinion, not to mention how stressful it would be for him even if he hadn't had the heart issue.

Mummy195 · 04/07/2020 18:22

Maybe one who never represented the accused before?

ButteryPuffin · 04/07/2020 18:23

Sorry Mummy are you saying the judge appointed to hear the case is biased and will give a corrupt verdict on that basis?

Rousette they said they wanted to be financially independent and earn their own money. They haven't earned any yet as far as I can see - Meghan did the elephant voice over for charity and Harry isn't earning. So what else can they be living on but money from others? They aren't 'stony broke' in a sense any of us would recognise but they're not independent earners yet either.

CallmeAngelina · 04/07/2020 18:23

Imagine telling her father that there was ‘no time’ to give a short speech at her wedding.

IF that is true (and I don't know where the tale comes from), then it's ridiculous. The speech by the bride's father is one of the key events of the wedding breakfast, in every wedding I've ever been to. And anyway, no one seemed to mind about the Bishop Michael Curry running over-time at the ceremony.

HarryDaylight · 04/07/2020 18:23

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