Harry and Meghan biography

[sunshinesupermum]

Hasn't Prince Harry learnt anything from his mother's experience of having someone write her biography 'to set the record straight'? Couldn't they have at least waited until after his grandmother's death, however long that might be?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257071/Meghan-Harry-biography-bombshell-Royals.html

Maybe it really is true that he isn't as bright as many think

I don't think many think he is at all bright.

I keep seeing references to Harry being not particularly bright. How does anyone know this? I know there was the alleged business of having tutoring for his a levels but loads of people do that. And his actions recently haven't shown foresight but that could be more down to a petulant attitude.
No one knows his IQ though.

No this case won’t be heard by a jury. It’s not criminal. It is expected to be heard in around 6 months.

Angelina. Diana herself said that she was concerned about Harry’s route to Eton as she knew he wouldn’t be able to keep up. And Harry has also said that he was the thickest boy there

But the entrance exams for Eton are particularly high level aren't they? So, if you'd got in by virtue of something else (eg royal parents), you wouldn't have to be terribly dim to appear so in comparison.

@BubblesBuddy

No this case won’t be heard by a jury. It’s not criminal. It is expected to be heard in around 6 months.

I am not a lawyer, so I don't know whether this case will be heard by a jury, however, the fact that it is a civil case doesn't automatically preclude it. I sat on the jury in a civil case and I believe juries also sit in coroner's cases.

Angelina. My son goes to a posh prep school. Two of his friends are going to Eton in September. They are lovely boys but they are not Professor Brian Cox (who didn’t go to Eton).

Harry reminds me of another friend who came to stay (same school). We were playing Cluedo and none of us could work out the suspects at all. Finally someone made an accusation and it was wrong. We then discovered that Friend had forgotten about checking his cards and had said that he hadn’t got any when asked if it was Colonel Mustard in the Kitchen with the Lead Piping. Nice boy. Cloudy mind. Bit like Harry. Can’t see the details because of the fog.

Harry walked into Eton in the same way that Princes Charles and Edward walked into Cambridge.

Not specifically a comment about Charlotte, but I always find it distasteful in the extreme when a wealthy child provides charity to an adult in need. Anyone I’ve said this to has said I’m bonkers!

I agree. It's an amplification of the more usual power differential between the receiver and the giver where charity is concerned. Strips dignity from the receiver. Where the hell were W & K? In the Range Rover, observing? The home-made pasta is a bit Marie Antionette - "This is what you can't have every day". One portion could probably have bought several packets of the dried stuff when you take into account the cost of the ingredients and the labour involved. I would have kept the kids home and given the pasta out myself - adult to adult. A bad look all around.

Anyone will tell you that breaking into English aristocratic circles, and understanding how they work was always going to be an uphill struggle for someone like Meghan who simply didn't understand them (or try to).

I think the wedding was the start of the problem, sidelining your husband's close friends from that circle in favour of Hollywood celebrities and turning it into what looked like a networking event, the demands that allegedly gave rise to the what Meghan wants, Meghan gets were never going endear MM to those she expected to welcome and adore her.

Harry got Art A level grade B (with well documented help) and a grade D in Geography. So well below university entry standard for more or less any university. So this probably puts him in the lower half of examined intelligence. IQ is rarely measured, so who knows? I suspect he wouldn’t be above average. However he seems to have soft skills by virtue of his personality and upbringing and enjoyed the army. But he’s not academic.

It won’t be heard by a jury.

From www.judiciary.uk. Worth a read on how uk courts work.

It's a tricky one BarleylemonPenguin. I understand exactly, but for adults who want to raise their children to be charitably minded , this especially applies to the Royals - remember how Diana would take Wills and Harry visiting the homeless etc well what is an age appropriate way to instill these values?

I also remember the son of the local Lord of the Manor when I was a teenager who sometimes babysat for them - he was buying sweets in the village shop, wearing his flat cap, and when the shopkeeper went to get his change he airily said "keep the change as a tip". I can't recall the precise words from the shopkeeper but HE WAS NOT PLEASED 😂

Apologies for appalling punctuation

a wealthy child provides charity to an adult in need.

I don't see that - to me it is teaching a child to be kind and think of others.

Yes I understand what Barley is driving at but I wouldn't read the decision for C to hand out the pasta herself so negatively. Mostly because we know it is something W&K would also do. If they weren't hands on themselves that would be different. I didn't see this as mainly a photo op. Is the idea as well that it was safer for C to deliver because she's a child?

I thought the photos of Charlotte were charming and wondered if it was more along the lines of "Great - it'll give the kids something different to to do today".

Children that age generally love to help.

I suspect the deliveries Charlotte made were to well known family retainers, retired staff living on the estate perhaps OVienna but I don't have a problem with that, she's only five and it's a nice safe way for her to develop the habit of kindness and thinking of others as ajandjjmum says.

TimeLady That was my thinking as well.

Thanks Bubbles

Fanny - I do know what you mean. I know that this is perhaps not a popular viewpoint but charity, when you really think about it, is quite an awkward, difficult and messy concept for both the giver and the receiver. Public displays of charity, especially from royals, are even more so. Diana would be wearing clothing worth thousands, rolling up in a Roller, while visiting the homeless. I'm not sure what Harry and William picked up from these visits, apart from to make this an inter-generational activity, and thus continue the format, but who actually knows what is in their heads (wrt charity )?

Will the book not be aimed more at the American market? It’s a much bigger and thus lucrative audience and gives MM the opportunity to play the victim. I’d say a lot in it could be her giving her perspective on Andrew as the Epstein case is still a big story in the US. Her insights on the state of William and Kate’s marriage would also sell and she could be mean enough to unleash all sorts of private things that she was party to when she was part of the family. Harry is only a bit part player in the life of this Princess and by showing the RF in a very ugly light she gets to rehabilitate her own image and secure bookings for her new career.

I’d say a lot in it could be her giving her perspective on Andrew as the Epstein case is still a big story in the US. Her insights on the state of William and Kate’s marriage would also sell

If she does this she’ll cook her goose and she’s not that dim. She’ll lose the £2m a year from Charles and even Harry might have second thoughts.

I think it will anodyne and full of how wonderful they both are but M obviously a bit more wonderful

I agree Barley Diana made a big thing of teaching W&H about her work or something or other, but I felt the homeless visits were a bit off somehow. I'm not sure it's an ideal thing to bring your child along to.

Fanny I was agreeing with you that it's not an issue?

I always assumed Diana took the boys along to show them first hand that not everyone was in as privileged a position as them. They were unlikely to actually physically encounter any homeless people otherwise.