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Harry and Meghan biography

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sunshinesupermum · 26/04/2020 12:08

Hasn't Prince Harry learnt anything from his mother's experience of having someone write her biography 'to set the record straight'? Couldn't they have at least waited until after his grandmother's death, however long that might be?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257071/Meghan-Harry-biography-bombshell-Royals.html

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lizzie1970a · 30/04/2020 22:17

I think he's petulant as his plan backfired. Complete speculation on my part but I always thought H thought marrying M was a good idea as we'd all love her and we'd hold them in our hearts (puke) like many members of the British public did with Diana - why wouldn't we? They'd be do-gooding angels. So while they might not end up as king and queen they'd get the popular vote of the public (and be the king and queen of hearts like his mum) and be more loved and admired than other members of the RF.

I really believe there was connivance on both their parts - M would get a stepping stone to raise her profile; H would benefit too from being a right-on, woke power couple, overshadowing boring and predictable W&K.

He didn't expect the public not to warm to her - I believe he said at the Sentabale speech when he was on his way out something about she's the same woman I married. He saw the public do a U-turn on her in terms of liking her. The British public tried but there were too many things that came over as insincere and manipulative by both - do as I say not as I do with the private jets etc. The backlash as an immature spoilt man was incomprehensible to him and rather than face the music and accept some responsibility he's become increasingly petulant and angry.

Of course, being arrogant he couldn't bear to be questioned about anything or have any criticism at all. For years he rode of the wave of public love (not from me) - cheeky chappie Harry. He thought he was invincible but he wasn't. The public is fickle. They brought so much of it on themselves. They never learned from any lesson. They should have just put their heads down and done the work, tried not to attract attention for the wrong reasons (which they managed to in abundance from their actions) and rode it out.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/04/2020 22:22

Is anyone planning on buying the book? At the minute its currently in my "i'd really like to read it but I don't want them to make any money from me, even if it is a few measly pence"

There's always ebay ... I'm sure after folk have read it and thrown it at the wall there'll be plenty on there

TinRoofRusty · 30/04/2020 22:24

Spot on, lizzie.

TinRoofRusty · 30/04/2020 22:31

Won't be lining their pockets by buying their bilge/book.

RosesandIris · 30/04/2020 23:15

Neither will I

ARoseInHarlem · 30/04/2020 23:32

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ajandjjmum · 30/04/2020 23:47

Oh, and was given British citizenship, a process that is quite difficult, convoluted and expensive for non-EU spouses of British nationals, takes a minimum of 5 years. But they rolled out the red carpet for Harry and MM, who then appear to have pissed all over it, rucked up and left.

She was never granted British citizenship.

MrsJoshNavidi · 30/04/2020 23:47

I'm really worried 4 will happen. H will have some kind of breakdown, or worse.

TinRoofRusty · 30/04/2020 23:49

Yes, well, went really fast with the visa process, considering that mere mortals have to prove even how many days they have been together to get even the initial visa. My son was never baptised. He decided of his own accord as a teenager to become an Anglican. It was not a quick process.

TinRoofRusty · 30/04/2020 23:51

Certainly wouldn't go round wearing some evil eye necklace after being confirmed Hmm.

ArchePenguin · 30/04/2020 23:54

Please stop the speculation about any No.4 scenario. Ghoulishly pouring over this is not in the spirit of Mumsnet.

miri1985 · 30/04/2020 23:58

Now Harry is on his own with no palace officials or old friends quietly making things happen. It will be deeply shocking for him.

I wonder as well is the cost of making things happen outside the palace also dawning on him. The palace gets people at well below the going rate because its an honour and a stepping stone to work for them whereas I doubt Sunshine Sachs etc. is doing anything on the cheap.

Complete speculation on my part but I did wonder when they said no engagement with the 4 tabloids was that because they twigged it was costing them money every time one of them rang up Sunshine Sachs for comment on an article

MissHoskins · 01/05/2020 00:21

H pushed to the brink, history repeating itself in the most tragic way
This is ridiculous speculation and very unpleasant.
Diana, Princess of Wales made her choices. Harry has made his. To even speculate that he'll meet an untimely end is revolting.

ARoseInHarlem · 01/05/2020 02:25

Why do any of us post anything on these threads? We dissect, discuss, offer new information, recall history, contextualise. To what end? Why are any of us so concerned about this couple, beyond “I don’t want my taxes to pay for their security”?

It’s gossip about a royal couple, in the way plebs have always gossiped about royals. Tittle tattle. That’s partly what they’re for, part of the deal. Hence all the (completely inexplicable, to me) cries of “at least give us a photo of the newborn baby!”. People feel entitled to a piece of these queens and princesses and princes, sometimes the most intimate parts of life that they themselves wouldn’t share with strangers.

This is the crux of the problem, for H&M and for their generation. In order to remain relevant to modern life they need to be closer to the people (Queen of Hearts, biographies, TV interviews, Instagram fgs, sneak peek inside the homes of, staged paparazzi shots etc) in a way that opens them up to being revealed as people with potentially more and/or worse flaws than any one of us. It foretells the demise of the monarchy. There’s no logical, rational justification for their expense, if they’re just spoilt, rich, damaged, hypocritical, arrogant, petulant, pampered, literally entitled people through birth or marriage alone.

This is where the tension arises. To reveal themselves as relevant and therefore justifiable, is to open themselves to scrutiny in a way that’s objectively unreasonable. Harry is absolutely right. There are plenty - PLENTY - of far richer (through inherited wealth) people than he, with access to a lifestyle he can but dream of, who lead entirely private lives and get away with anything. The media (which is us) eviscerate royalty until they’ve somehow proven themselves, at which point they become your best friend. Fuck that for a game of laughs, he must be thinking, not standing for that. Not after what happened to my mum.

But the media will win, ultimately, because the media is food for the millions of people who pay for them. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Harry hasn’t understood this. He proved it with those ludicrous statements about trying to be financially independent and the we’re-not-talking-to-the-tabloids-anymore guff. Savvy royals have understood they need to tame the beast; respect its power; form a sort of symbiotic parasite-host relationship.

To call theorizing about the possible outcomes of this or that lifestyle move “ghoulish speculation” is imputing an intention to the remark that never existed. Nobody wants it. It’s an observation, as valid as any other. Life can be ghoulish. History can be tragic. No more so, arguably, than in royal families past and present. Poke the bear and it will bite.

Royalty is gross, rancid beneath a veneer of refinement. Those with any sense know this, so they either play the game or walk away.

RosesandIris · 01/05/2020 05:54

Really good postsRoseinHarlem

Good point miri about the costs of SS versus Palace advisors and staff.

RosesandIris · 01/05/2020 05:56

This is ridiculous speculation and very unpleasant.

No, I think it’s actually pretty on the nail. Frightening though it is.

TimeLady · 01/05/2020 06:09

Why H quit the army; a fairly sympathetic view from the DM

But the decision, he told his companion that day in May 2015, had been his.

'I don't see myself flying a desk,' the figure recalled a then clean-shaven Harry saying. He had by that stage completed two five-year terms, retraining from an infantry platoon commander to become a highly skilled Apache helicopter co-pilot gunner, and it prompted his most revealing comment.

'I am the only one of my intake - bar one who has gone down the staff officer route - who is still in,' he said.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8275557/RICHARD-KAY-details-Army-perfect-fit-Prince-Harry.html

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/05/2020 06:11

Great post Harlem.
TinRoof
I Am not religious. But I do respect others, who are. I also found the eye distasteful. She seems to regularly change her belief system. Sending the eye right back at her... Hmm

As for buying a copy of their drivel, I was also thinking I could obtain one second hand at some stage.

TimeLady · 01/05/2020 07:00

H would benefit too from being a right-on, woke power couple, overshadowing boring and predictable W&K.

I'm hoping that wokeness - and virtue signalling in general - turns out to be an additional casualty of Covid now that people are faced with actual real life pressing issues, such as health scares and unemployment. No-one in their right mind is going to be on an aeroplane, red carpeting or glad-handing at over-the-top corporate events any time soon, so that should put a stop to some of the more hypocritical jollies.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 01/05/2020 07:33

Yes TimeLady I couldn’t agree more.

FannyCann · 01/05/2020 08:03

Absolutely agree TimeLady

Advice from Celia Walden in the Telegraph today.

LA: a survival guide digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/212/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/212/pub/212/page/82/article/38003

Biscuit0110 · 01/05/2020 08:20

We don't need to buy their PR stunt of a book, I am sure when it is released every page will be digested by the UK and US media, and coughed out together with an analysis of varying quality depending on where you choose to read it.

We will soon see the best and worst parts of the book without the cost. However I expect the court case between the DM and MM to be slightly more entertaining and enlightening personally.

We can put the money we would have spent on their ill advised book towards supporting one of the charities, one of many that are now on their knees thanks to being casually abandoned by the highly charitable compassionate 'Duke and Duchess' in favour of high rolling Malibu.

Biscuit0110 · 01/05/2020 08:22

fanny The Telegraph piece this morning is highly recommended and exceptionally well written - and so true, it managed to make me laugh at 5.20am, and that is quite an achievement.

FannyCann · 01/05/2020 08:29

Biscuit my ambition is to go to a smart restaurant in LA where all the diners are perusing a Water menu at preposterous prices and loudly fling it back to the waiter before demanding the wine list and downing a bottle. Grin

ToastedHaMSandwich · 01/05/2020 08:35

Get The book from your local library. We should all support our libraries. Best long term recycling project ever (even with local authorities trying to shut them down)