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Harry and Meghan biography

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sunshinesupermum · 26/04/2020 12:08

Hasn't Prince Harry learnt anything from his mother's experience of having someone write her biography 'to set the record straight'? Couldn't they have at least waited until after his grandmother's death, however long that might be?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257071/Meghan-Harry-biography-bombshell-Royals.html

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MrsJoshNavidi · 30/04/2020 13:04

Is divorce 50 / 50 on assets earned during the marriage or on total wealth in California

I don't think it matters - neither of them really earn anything - Meg gave her earnings from the Disney thing to charidee.

And neither of them really has any wealth as such either. I'll bet Harry's inheritance is tied up somewhere so that it doesn't technically belong to him.

Winterlife · 30/04/2020 13:17

Is divorce 50 / 50 on assets earned during the marriage or on total wealth in California.

It's a community property state, so that anything earned during the marriage is split 50/50. Anything brought into the marriage remains the property of the party holding those assets pre marriage. However, any increase in value during the marriage is split 50/50.

California has very generous alimony payments to spouses. That's where the "money" is made.

If H&M purchase a home funded by Charles, I suspect they won't have title to the home. Certainly Charles has top notch advisors who would know how to structure this to avoid a property settlement.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/04/2020 13:30

Was there a pre nup signed?

I've no idea whether it's true or not, but it was reported at the time that Harry refused one

LadyEloise · 30/04/2020 13:33

Myimaginarycathasfleas
".....They clearly love each other....."

I hope so but wouldn't be too sure.
I'm clearly more cynical than you.

Hamsterian · 30/04/2020 13:35

I don’t either of them are happy. Being on permanent holiday with a baby is not all that if you don’t have a sense of self or a sense of role in society. It’s been researched that people only feel happy and settled if they are part of a community or feel they are part of something bigger. They will be too worried about their future to be able to properly enjoy all the time with the baby. It’s not fulfilling under the circumstances they are in. They could have had everything and the best of both worlds if they had been more humble and patient

Figgygal · 30/04/2020 13:41

They massively overplayed their hand and now they are adrift part of me feels a bit sorry for him for being so naive to think that you could manipulate the institution of the royal family in the way he/they did but then the other part of me thinks good he deserves everything he gets.
If this biography chat is true that really will be striking a match to his final bridge with a lot of people. Know that I’m sure most people care what he’s got to say anymore

Gonegrey31 · 30/04/2020 13:46

All beaches and parks in California are being closed from tomorrow. Grim for anyone in the state although I imagine H and M have a pool and large garden.

SliAnCroix · 30/04/2020 13:48

I think they THOUGHT they loved each other.

WotnoPasta · 30/04/2020 14:23

I just don’t get where MM is coming from. She’s obviously had very poor advice and literally knows nothing about the RF and it’s supporters.
Im not a royalist at all but I thought she would be a breath of fresh air. This little routine to some how bring down the RF is misguided and pointless. The interest in her was only because she was a member of the RF, without that no one cares! She’s just back to being some TV actress.
Only Diana was able to leave the RF and keep her support and that was due to the fact she had put the years of work in and gotten the public’s support AND she was seen as the injured party. She had been tricked into a marriage that was never going to work and then cheated on. This isn’t the same for MM at all.
At the moment the support stays with Harry.

I imagine all the RF wealth is tied up in ways that make it very inaccessible.

CallmeAngelina · 30/04/2020 14:24

On a slight tangent, does anyone know if California allows its residents to travel to 2nd homes within the state?

BlueChangling · 30/04/2020 15:40

I just feel desperately sad for the pair of them. Kate and William where able to spend a few years as newly weds in Anglesey then at Amner Hall, with very few Royal duties. This enabled them to find their footing as a married couple and carve their own role as members of the Royal Family. They got a lot of flack for taking this time and both where called lazy and workshy.

Harry and Meghan in contrast came in all guns blazing and instead of taking the time to find out what would work for them in the Royal Family they just up and left. Ithink they both underestimated the Queen by thinking they could force her hand. Meghan probably just saw her as a sweet little old lady and no threat and would concede to their wants. Her Majesty has shown time and time again that she had an iron will when it comes to protecting The Crown and putting it above all else.

The feminist in me hates how all of the blame is placed on Meghan. Harry is a grown man who has made his choice to cut off his family. However, I honestly don't think Harry would have made such a brutal split if he had married Chelsy or Cress. Certainly he may have taken a step back from it all maybe went to live in obscurity in Africa. Meghan has shown time and time again that she cuts and runs or ghosts people when she is done with them I really think she is the driving force behind it all.

CallmeAngelina · 30/04/2020 15:44

I don't think all of the blame has been placed on Meghan.
Plenty of people on this thread and others who are critical of Harry just as much, if not more.

Butterymuffin · 30/04/2020 15:44

Being on permanent holiday with a baby is not all that if you don’t have a sense of self or a sense of role in society

I read something years ago about research done on lottery winners that found the happiest ones were those working part-time. They didn't have to do it for money, or to endure the grind of a job they hated, but their mental health was better for having time to relax and enjoy themselves BUT also having a structure where they were regularly doing some kind of work they were choosing to do and that was meaningful. That is absolutely Harry's challenge.

yoloPenguinsEatfish · 30/04/2020 16:11

I dont remember being on holiday with a baby being all that anyway, for however short a time ! Holiday being an unlikely word Grin although I suppose the staff make a difference.

Having no structure, having to hustle for the next $$ high profile job, that must actually be quite stressful.

WillyWaver · 30/04/2020 16:18

As a feminist I too hate to see women get blamed when men make the same or joint decisions. BUT if Meghan really is a narcissist, and it appears she is, then being in her clutches means Harry is being controlled and has been for some time and hasn't been able to see it.

Allflightscancelled · 30/04/2020 16:19

I interviewed a lottery winner years ago for work. He'd had a big win and had the massive house, pool, cars, staff too, I seem to remember. And he told me that the only thing in the room that meant anything at all to him was a large porcelain vase. And that was because he'd seen it, loved it and saved for it before the win. So it had actual meaning.

He said "you can take the rest of it and I wouldn't miss any of it".

A pretty empty existence that I imagine might well start to resonate with Harry and Meghan any moment now.

ajandjjmum · 30/04/2020 16:21

Isn't it ironic that such a vocal feminist entered a marriage where her absolute status is defined by the man she married.

I suppose that was always going to be a huge challenge for her - and should have been explored more carefully before they became engaged.

User721 · 30/04/2020 16:28

Im sure i read something that lottery winners experience a brief period of increased happiness maybe 6 months or so but after a while their happiness level returns to the same level as it was before the lottery win, so if you weren't happy before you won't be afterwards. With Harry he has had immense privilege all his life so lolling around in a mansion is normal to him and won't seem special at sll to him.

RosesandIris · 30/04/2020 16:35

They aren’t exactly looking after the baby either. They have a nanny to do that. So essentially nothing to do. No housework or cooking either I imagine. I’m sure they’ve worked their way through The Crown...

Nikhedonia · 30/04/2020 16:48

Now if that Nanny sold her story it would be an interesting read...

RosesandIris · 30/04/2020 16:57

Yes,I keep thinking that!!

Allflightscancelled · 30/04/2020 17:01

I actually think I'd be more prepared to pay for the nanny's round the clock security than I am to pay for H&M's, if she spilled the beans. Because that story would be EPIC.

LaMarschallin · 30/04/2020 17:14

Just as a by-the-by and because we're all bored in lockdown, "The Nanny Diaries" isn't a bad read.
Not great literature or anything but a bit of an exposé along the lines of "The Devil Wears Prada".

Disclaimer: the couple who employ the nanny are both American; he's a big shot, aspirational businessman and she's a trophy wife, so I'm obviously not suggesting this is how things are chez HaM.
Quite the opposite, in fact.

alliwantisagoodnightssleep · 30/04/2020 17:20

I wonder if it is the same nanny they have had the entire time. So far she had lived in London, travelled to South Africa, moved to Canada, been left with Archie for significant periods of time when both parents were in the UK, moved to LA during the middle of a pandemic. I would love to see her job description and how it compares to Nanny Maria.

miri1985 · 30/04/2020 17:24

I think most of us would like them to be happy and (if they actually wanted it) to live a private life. I don't think they are though, I think they're both thin skinned and care far too much about what other people think for the roles that they have chosen and been born into.

I've read a few articles that have said that not only does Harry read all the articles about him but he reads the comments sections, that is so ridiculously unhealthy.
“He has grown increasingly into adulthood irritated with media coverage and had an almost unhealthy obsession with it, to the extent he would even read the comments beneath the articles online. He would then take up issues with the correspondents from those papers when he met them.” www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/09/hes-very-tortured-prince-harrys-growing-anger-at-the-press

I have a feeling Meghan reads everything written about her too.

I don't know about anyone else but I got the view that they were kind of annoyed when all the press about their Africa trip was universally positive, like they had planned to release the statement about the court case when some negative press started so they could be like 'here, see what we mean they're horrid to us' and then when there was nothing like that they had to release the statement anyway. They're trying to play 4d chess against the press and are frustrated its not working

I think most of us have an innate sense of fairness but as adults have realised that the world is rarely if ever fair, you would think that people with immense wealth and influence would think that life had already dealt them a fairly good hand rather than life being unfair and having to ward off evil spirits and rail against everyone that isn't 100% on side all the time