Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan? Thread 4

[Mummy195]

Hope you don't mind Dave.

That's funny because I would've thought Meghan was just Diana's type and she'd have taken against Kate for marrying her PFB!

But this is burrell talking.
I often wonder what will and harry think of him.

Burrell, the gift that keeps on giving

I don't think Diana would have been massively keen on having daughter in laws especially very beautiful ones. I suspect she would have liked the one she found easiest to manipulate.

Agree with mrscampbell Diana would not have liked her beautiful dils. She always wanted to be centre of attention. Didn’t she throw her stepmother down the stairs at a party as the attention wasn’t on her?

canIhave wtaf?!

Burrell is mad as fuck, but probably speaks truth every now and then.

That’s what I mean yolo she wouldn’t have wanted good looking dils. I doubt she’d have got on with either of them. And yes he’s mad. Always interesting that HM remembered a conversation with him just before trial.

Does Meghan get on with anybody. She seems to cause havoc wherever she goes.

canIhave I think Diana would have been a lovely, but possibly very annoying granny! Hard for her to compete with beautiful dil, but also would have been very hard for K and M had they not met up to expectations regarding beauty. I wonder if beauty was part of the choosing process for W and H. Imagine if either of them had gone for a lovely woman but who was a bit short, a bit dumpy, had difficult hair and freckles?

Didn’t she throw her stepmother down the stairs at a party as the attention wasn’t on her?

Gasp. Really? Could you expand, please?

No I think that might've been at her fathers funeral? Some funeral...

No wait, her brother's (first) wedding.

That was always a fascinating part of the Diana phenomenon. That these awful things that she had done would emerge, and her fans would react with “aw poor woman”. I believe pushing Raine Spencer down the stairs and throwing herself down the stairs, pregnant, in front of the Queen were two things she cheerfully told Andrew Morton about herself for the tell-all book. Which demonstrated a certain lack of self awareness.

No I think that might've been at her fathers funeral? Some funeral...

I think the incident after her father’s funeral, was Dina and her siblings bagging up Raine’s belongings in black sacks and throwing them into the hallway of Althorp.

To backtrack a bit.

Kate will be the Queen but not Her Majesty, that is reserved for the monarch.

The wife of a king is the Queen*. The husband of a Queen is not , however, a King. If a man is to be King, he has to be King in his own right. A Queen on the other hand can be a Queen Consort (Queen Mum, Queen Mary, angel of Henry VIII's wives), or Queen Regnant (Our Queen, Victoria Elizabeth I).

*Camilla will be Queen. Oh yes she will. It would be a difficult legal process to have it otherwise (see Edward VIII) because the wife of the King is the Queen full stop.

All this Duchess of Cornwall bollox was just to calm down the rabid Diana fans when they got married. By the time Charles succeeds, no one will be worried and rightly so. She will be Queen and I am glad of it.

I knew that a queens husband couldn't be a king. I did wonder if a kings wife would have a slightly different title that the queen or our queen.
Gosh that sounds like a lot of gobblygook

Bearing in mind H grew up with Diana's diva moments, and worshipped her, he probably has quite a high drama threshold. The sort of behaviour from MM that normal well mannered people would find objectionable probably doesn't even register with him.

Kate will be the Queen but not Her Majesty, that is reserved for the monarch.

Not true. She will be Her Majesty, The Queen. As were all her predecessors - the Queen Mother, Queens Mary and Alexandra etc.

Bearing in mind H grew up with Diana's diva moments, and worshipped her, he probably has quite a high drama threshold

Very good point. It’s his formative template for female behaviour.

Sorry real life got in the way. Think this is it.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4778560/amp/Diana-pushed-stepmother-Raine-Spencer-STAIRS.html

Cerseirys yes you’re right.

Samcro

I think we've had Elizabeth ll on the throne for so long that a lot of people have forgotten how the titles "work", as it were.

Although, most people have heard of the "queen mother", "queen Elizabeth, the queen mother" was her official title, as she was queen Elizabeth when her husband was king.

It's like all the silly newspaper speculation as to whether Kate will be given "Diana's title" of princess of Wales.
That wasn't invented for Diana; she acquired it by marrying the prince of Wales. If William becomes prince of Wales, Kate will be princess.
Iirc, the last princess of Wales was Alexandra, who became Edward Vll's queen.

I did read somewhere (a long time ago) that various titles were suggested for the queen mother when her daughter became queen and she chose the one that had the word "queen" twice in it.

I think we've had Elizabeth ll on the throne for so long that a lot of people have forgotten how the titles "work", as it were.

That’s exactly it.

Queen consorts are “Her majesty” because traditionally women always take the rank and title of their husbands, but not vice versa.

I did read somewhere (a long time ago) that various titles were suggested for the queen mother when her daughter became queen and she chose the one that had the word "queen" twice in it.

TBF, I suspect the word “dowager” figured in several of the possibilities, so I don’t blame her. “Dowager” is even worse than “spinster”.

Or it could've been because she shared a name with her daughter and two Queen Elizabeths may have been confusing!

I don't think "Dowager" ever featured in any titles for a Queen. After her husband's death she merely became HM Queen HerName. It's duchesses who became Dowager Duchesses.