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Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan? Thread 4

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Mummy195 · 20/04/2020 12:08

Hope you don't mind Dave.

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ButteryPuffin · 04/05/2020 15:21

It's only been her 1st / 2nd yr, it looks like H is there to guide and support her.

In carrying out royal engagements, sure. But in meeting someone from the entertainment industry to propose doing a voiceover? That's her field, not Harry's. She wouldn't need his guidance.

Mummy195 · 04/05/2020 15:21

Goodness me catin, how many projects does Disney do? I don't think the Head is told of every nitty gritty.

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Mummy195 · 04/05/2020 15:23

She would need his guidance for most things she does under the RF banner, wether she knows the subject well or not.

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catinb0oots · 04/05/2020 15:23

I'd hardly call a member of the BRF voicing a Disney docco 'nitty gritty' Hmm

ButteryPuffin · 04/05/2020 15:28

So how come she went to the National Theatre event alone then? Or the one at the school? They were more core royal events than the Disney thing, especially given that the National Theatre is one of her official royal patronages. But no guidance from Harry needed there.

Mummy195 · 04/05/2020 15:32

The National Theatre was a small event with no RR cameras. She was talking to ppl she was constantly in touch with and met several times before. There was no new issues there really. The Head of NT had just defended her before that, it looks like it was just an informal meeting of ppl who know each other.

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Mummy195 · 04/05/2020 15:34

catin
Morgan F, Meryl S, Natalie P are all highly regarded Oscar winners. Does Bob I meet them? Disney has a lot of high profile ppl involved in their projects in general.

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EthelMayFergus · 04/05/2020 16:11

She would need his guidance for most things she does under the RF banner. Was going to the premiere a RF thing, but not the NT for which she is a royal patron? It doesn't make sense to me either.

Dandyish · 04/05/2020 16:41

Reading back it on it all and what he said some time after, I think it was genuinely an oversight. It’s the only time I believe in a very long career that he appears to have done something racist and I can’t believe he’d knowingly have done something so overt.

not defending?

I wrote the paragraph you say is defending Samcro, and no, it's NOT defending. I said that in the context of all my other posts and assumed it would be read that way. I should have known you'd take it out of context.

The context of my other posts is that I very specifically said all along that while I did think it was an oversight rather than intended, it was a terrible lapse of judgment and he should have known better and his response was awful, making it about him being 'attacked' and his own hurt feelings, rather than the act itself. I said if he'd responded differently when pulled up about it, people might have let him off for not intending to be racist, but that his response was so arrogant and missing the point that he thoroughly deserved to be sacked for it.

I said, and I believe was the first to say it on this thread, that his long career and his speciality as a popular culture DJ meant he absolutely should have known better, and should have known that MM was mixed race (which I got wrong as thinking that was his excuse).

I deliberately chose to wrote in the post that you quoted from that the Sun debunked his excuse that he hadn't known who the royal baby belonged to; they posted his RT (retweet) of a post about Meghan and Harry's baby being born or imminent just a day or two before his tweet. Do you really think I'd have said that if I was defending him?

I don't like him - I said that earlier too. I've never met him but I've always thought he seemed misogynistic and yes, very arrogant. But I believe in facts and nuance and context, not cherry picking and twisting to support an emotive rhetoric.

Dandyish · 04/05/2020 16:43

Thank you @Butterymuffin and @EthelMayFergus for sticking up for it not being defending.

EthelMayFergus · 04/05/2020 16:46

That'll be why I missed it then (sorry it was me that asked for an example of someone defending DB), in context it clearly isn't defending him at all. There's a lot of smoke and mirrors on this thread.

Mummy195 · 04/05/2020 16:46

According to Camilla T of the Torygraph, this former captain of the Special Boat Services is unhappy. It looks like other military vets are perfectly understanding. Like Declassified community, Rubicon etc. they have been defending him. His close friend from the army days and still is in regular touch, Dean Stott has been saying he is still the same person and talked about his frustrations about all the lies that are being printed.

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Samcro · 04/05/2020 16:47

i read it as it was written.

if you believe in facts your on the wrong thread. most of this and many other threads are just people opinions

Dandyish · 04/05/2020 16:59

if you believe in facts your on the wrong thread. most of this and many other threads are just people opinions

I've never ever used this Mumsnet-ism before but:

Are you on glue?

ButteryPuffin · 04/05/2020 17:34

There is indeed a lot of posts that is opinion. Such as

Tsuki was good. they posted some clever stuff. I doubt they were banned for being a troll. just her veiw didn't sit well on those threads.
the BBC have form for employing racists and disablist people so it wouldn't surprise me if he was back,

Now, I've just checked and Baker is now doing podcasts for the BBC, so he has returned in a sense, which is disappointing. However, I notice you said 'it wouldn't surprise me...' in a purely speculative fashion, not 'I've looked it up and..'

May I suggest you don't post sentiments like
if you believe in facts your on the wrong thread. most of this and many other threads are just people opinions
if you can't be arsed to check facts yourself and just want to give your own opinion? I'm personally ok with an opinion-based discussion - I agree that that's what most threads are - but don't imply that you're posting in accordance with some higher, fact-based standard when that's not the case.

I stand by my positive view of the Ghostbusters reboot, btw, and will defend it to the utmost Wink

Samcro · 04/05/2020 18:02

Lol
Pretty much the same post twice, clever.

Back to the thread.
Something i am curious about. When william becomes king, does kate become queen or queen consort?

Dandyish · 04/05/2020 18:08

I agree that most threads are opinion based. Odd to say it on THIS one though when it’s started by Mummy who posts a lot of stuff to factually correct information.

To address your full post to me @Samcro:

so harry does something when he was in his early 20's and that is still used as a stick to beat him with. radio guy makes a disgusting racist post and he is defended........strange days.

Have didn’t just do something, he did some thingS. Separate from the uniform incident. Things that made the Army send him to ethnicity and diversity training. I do have a source for that but you don’t like facts so I won’t bother posting.

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 04/05/2020 18:09

I think queen consort.

EdithWeston · 04/05/2020 18:10

"When william becomes king, does kate become queen or queen consort?"

She becomes the queen consort, but if the RF follow the precedence of recent Queens (consorts) she will be styled HM Queen

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 04/05/2020 18:10

I think only a queen if you're actually the heir, rather than married to one.

ButteryPuffin · 04/05/2020 18:11

Pretty much the same post twice, clever

Sorry @Samcro, not getting your point here?

Dandyish · 04/05/2020 18:12

Anyone who doe want that source though, it was an article posted by a poster about something else days ago on the last hidden thread.

But yes Samcro let’s DEFLECT and talk about Kate!

WinnieTheW0rm · 04/05/2020 18:46

let's DEFLECT and talk about Kate!
There is a W&K thread, but it's not in the topic so I think people lose sight of it.

Lots of interesting discussion there, so perhaps this thread can revert to H&M?

My search of 'Finding Freedom' had a book about conquering Chronic Fatigue Syndrome as the top hit. But as the Scobie/Durand book is apparently already a best seller based on advance sales, so I guess that'll be everyone's first hit now.

Cerseirys · 04/05/2020 18:48

Kate will be HM The Queen. If she outlives William she'll then become HM Queen Catherine.

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