Why is Harry talking?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8234071/Row-Prince-Harry-claims-UKs-coronavirus-crisis-better-led-believe.html

Is there something seriously wrong with him?

A maternity style coat at 8 weeks pregnant is certainly unusual.

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In every single photo virtually she's preening, posing, touching her hair, or looking for the cameras. She never looks like she's engaging naturally with people either, it's always some kind of performance she's putting on. I understand that's her training, but it is noticeable.

Her training? Rada trained people don’t do that. She’s decided to do that. It’s nothing to do with training.

HermanHermit

She never quite got back to her pre baby shape

True, and that makes me wonder if she planned/plans to have her second (and, presumably, last: "two, maximum") fairly soon. So it wouldn't be worth getting back to her pre-pregnancy figure only for it to go again.

I'm quite convinced she's disciplined enough to have done so if she'd wanted to.

Hypothetically, now might be quite a good time to get pregnant. Lockdown would hopefully be over/relaxed by the time she had a bump to show and then she could crack on sculpting her figure.

Perhaps all that "rolling around" Harry's doing isn't just with Archie

I thought the reports where she told the family at the wedding on Saturday, then officially announced it to the press on the Monday?

Even if she had a bit of decorum to not tell the family on the Saturday she still officially announced it only two days after the wedding, it was one of the first things that made me question her motives, it was like she couldn't bare for the spotlight to be in someone else.

Which one is the picture in which Meghan appears she might be pregnant, please

First picture in the link in the OP

Hmm, aren't pregnant women vulnerable to CV? If yes, she'd have to stop her valuable outings

She looks like she’s wearing a proper respirator mask in that photo. He’s just wearing a scarf.

KaronAVyrus
A maternity style coat at 8 weeks pregnant is certainly unusual.

In every single photo virtually she's preening, posing, touching her hair, or looking for the cameras. She never looks like she's engaging naturally with people either, it's always some kind of performance she's putting on.

Yes, that's exactly it. I think this is pat of why she always she comes across as disingenuous

I thought their engagement interview was bizarre with Harry going on about all the "work" they had to do and Meghan talking about "hitting the ground running". It seemed like Harry had convinced himself and Meghan that he was a crusading activist and they'd be out fixing the world's problems. It seems to have come as a shock to both of the to realise no one wanted them to do that and they've been having an extended tantrum ever since.

If it's true they've spoken to journalists for a book about them then they've been very foolish and self-regarding. As usual.

A spokesperson has confirmed that they'll be releasing a photo of Archie on his birthday

twitter.com/RoyaNikkhah/status/1254321169207083009

Do you reckon they'll get a professional photo or will they take it themselves? Surely it'll have to be taken themselves given corona

In every single photo virtually she's preening, posing, touching her hair, or looking for the cameras. She never looks like she's engaging naturally with people either, it's always some kind of performance she's putting on

Yes, and to many it grates
There's a certain aspect of "performance" with all the RF when on duty, but not like this - and anyway I thought acting is supposed to be invisible, rather than right there in your face with an obvious eye to where the next camera is

Do you reckon they'll get a professional photo or will they take it themselves?

Such a pity Auntie Kate, the photographer of the family, can't be there to do it...

Yes, absolutely, there is always a performance but not like this !!

I think with the other royals, the ''performance'' is hiding their feelings, doubts, insecurities, squabbles......... we can probably forgive them for that performance
With Meghan though, the performance is to control our perception of her! It's like she tried to deny us our own perception of her. That's how I feel observing her. She cares SO MUCH what we think. That is why public life has tortured her. And instead of figuring that out, she thought she could create a new type of public life where she could better control what we were allowed to think about her.

Why is he being referred to as Harry Wales and Archie as Mountbatten-Windsor

Only they would find it necessary to confirm that they will be releasing a photo of Archie on his birthday. Just confirm their inflated sense of self-importance - pair of idiots.

She cares SO MUCH what we think. That is why public life has tortured her. And instead of figuring that out, she thought she could create a new type of public life where she could better control what we were allowed to think about her.

She had quite an Instagram identity before didn't she? Not famous enough to be hounded by the press but popular enough to have lots of Instagram followers and visits to her blog.

I imagine it's relatively easy to craft a public persons with that level of fame. She was also friends with some 'elite' people so had a nice enough lifestyle.

I would imagine getting thrust into the centre of the RF, would have been a baptism of fire and would have been challenging to someone who has had much more control of their identity.

A spokesperson has confirmed that they'll be releasing a photo of Archie on his birthday

Wouldn't it be marvellous if none of the British press printed it? Or at least not for a couple of days. Seriously. A bit of the old grey rock treatment would do them wonders.

Thanks for the Times share token Timelady
For all her silly caricatures of the participants in the case, Camilla Long writes interestingly on the emotional drivers behind the case. However I think she assumes that Harry is a subdued subservient doormat or some kind of smitten puppy dog, who will soon want to go back to how things were.

That article isn’t portraying him as an equal a participant or even an instigator to Meghan’s case and I wonder if he is. I think it makes more sense to consider her case as just one part of their joint ‘fight’ against the UK press.

She seems quite narcissistic but not one to challenge the overall system, because it also produces good coverage. She’s a screen actress with celebrity friends. She would get it.

But Harry seems both enraged by critique and to see threat in it for his family unit, which understandably is a big motivator. I think he is used to having a sense of power, and may genuinely believe he could ‘win’ something against the UK media. Hence the ban list. I’m not sure what he wants to win though and if it can ever give him the peace of mind he wants, and moving to
LA makes no sense if media attention in general was felt to be something to avoid.

She didn’t get it in her role in the RF though. She wanted LA adulation. Journalists will make word sketches for readers but what Camilla Long says is basically a decent opinion in the circumstances.

I think the whole family has probably had to tread on eggshells with Harry for most of his life. I think he is probably very quickly to take offence and to assume negative intentions. It’s not surprising, given he was always going to be second fiddle to William, whose star would always bring the ascendant as his, due to succession would always be in decline. Pre-Meghan they could probably manage Harry to a certain degree - by pandering to him and by protecting him from the press. Constantly talking him down.

I think Meghan provided the validation he was looking for, encouraging the paranoia and feeding it.

I absolutely agree with this. Contrary to royal tradition, Diana apparently brought the boys up the as equals rather than managing both boys expectations. Harry is a result of this childhood coupled with his not being able to get past his mother dying so young. He seems to have turned into an angry and begrudging man. Perhaps more recently, vindictive. He definitely has found the perfect wife to feed his appetite for revenge. They are perhaps more similar than I had realised. For him, the royal family is everything she is not.

Diana was only 36 when she died. She was only then really coming into her own. It would have been interesting to see how she had developed. In a way, MM, now 38, is starting age wise where Diana left off. According to MM, she met Harry shortly before she turned 35.

This is the timeline for anyone interested. It appears they dated for a couple of years. www.ajc.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-relationship-timeline/YOoadcrxmfwcW3HBcnCdBK/ I also took a screenshot of a palace statement dated shortly after they met. Both this statement and the statement at the end of the timeline, which finishes on the announcement to sue the MoS emphases PH does not like the intrusion on his home and family life. Looks like he has a lot to get used to then. There is going to be a lot of push / pull between them. And as we know, what Meghan wants, she gets.

I was speaking to dh yesterday. He said he’d read article about the types of properties they are viewing. According to a former SS agent (or similar), apparently they’re wholly unsuitable due to the lack of security and the person predicted if they bought anything, they’d be selling it 6 months later and buying something in a secure compound. I can’t find the article. But thought it ironic they cannot even take advice when it comes to the safety of their child.

Nikhedonia
Why is he being referred to as Harry Wales and Archie as Mountbatten-Windsor
Because he has walked away from the Royal Family, they want to be private citizens. I'd guess it's a way of reminding Harry of his choice.

But why is Archie not Archie Wales?

I thought acting was supposed to be invisible rather than right there in your face
Ah but this is American acting. I haven’t watched suits. I may do at some stage. However, so much second rate American acting is over acting. If she is the second rate actress we’ve been led to believe (which I could believe), this is understandable.

Instead of being in the present moment and authentic, I think she is projecting and watching herself. Watching yourself is a trap easily fallen into by poorly trained actors and produces results, which look false. In reality, this is actually the antipathy of acting...

It's interesting that people are now suggesting Harry has the short straw being the second son, whereas historically he was perceived as the lucky one who wouldn't have to have the burden of kingship.