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Why is Harry talking?

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botanicalart · 19/04/2020 17:49

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8234071/Row-Prince-Harry-claims-UKs-coronavirus-crisis-better-led-believe.html

Is there something seriously wrong with him?

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Ineedabreak19 · 25/04/2020 06:23

Lunde This case is a bit of a trap for Meghan really - if she wins her case it will make it almost impossible for her to do her "tell all" Oprah/Ellen interview without looking like a total hypocrite for breaching the privacy of other members of the RF

I agree and it's also a case of the old 'give her a bit of rope to hang herself with'. MM has over reached herself in her quest for stardom & this will eventually be her undoing. She will lose any credibility amongst the A list set if she sells out the RF. They will not want to associate with a person who is prepared to disclose the RF's finances/secret to further her own career because she might do the same thing to them.

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/04/2020 07:02

Lunde
Very inisightful summation of the situation, thanks. I wonder if Meghan actually realises there is no good outcome for her. Or if she is so blinded by arrogance and winning at all costs. She definitely seems to have an expectation that all around her will bend to her will.

She will lose any credibility amongst the A list set if she sells out the RF

I totally agree with this. However I don’t think Meghan actually has the capacity to see the consequences of her actions. And if / when this happens, she will blame them rather herself.

TimeLady · 25/04/2020 07:03

Forbes magazine doesn't seem too impressed:

Self-Isolating In Malibu, Handing Down Another Sussex-Royal Edict, And Suing The Press: Prince Harry’s And Meghan Markle’s Rough Los Angeles Debut

...
It may just be that, no matter what sort of change they make happen, Harry and Meghan are dissatisfied with themselves.

www.forbes.com/sites/guymartin/2020/04/24/self-isolating-in-malibu-handing-down-yet-another-sussex-royal-edict-and-suing-the-british-press-prince-harrys-and-meghan-markles-rough-los-angeles-debut/#19648e486ca6

BarleylemonPenguin · 25/04/2020 07:38

She will lose any credibility amongst the A list set if she sells out the RF

This must have already happened. Would anyone feel comfortable being friends with someone who seems so prepared to publicly drag their own father and friends through the legal mill? Such a whirlwind of misjudgement. H probaby doesn't know which way is up and/or is quaking in his boots in case he's next.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 25/04/2020 07:49

Gosh that Forbes article thank you for posting. Yes dissatisfied with themselves. Flapping around for their next target. Not very seemly for a royal. Goodness only knows what the rest of the royals think.

MoreHippoThanPenguin · 25/04/2020 07:51

That Forbes article Shock. And then you have the H&M supporters who actually believe that it only is the named UK tabloids that are the problem....

BarleylemonPenguin · 25/04/2020 07:56

Great Forbes article. Thank you. I found the following interesting:

The couple's dissatisfaction is ongoing and, whatever its target, will not likely be dimmed. This aspect of its durability and power suggests that its target is greater and more intimate than the trappings and duties of royalty, or certain members of the British press

I wonder if the writer is referring to personal demons or to something more organised and external?

Jillyhilly · 25/04/2020 08:04

That Forbes article is really insightful.

Telegraph has an amusing article this morning about the utter lack of glamour of yesterday’s proceedings, especially when conducted on Microsoft Teams:

Coronavirus has taken its toll on many sectors but reducing the celebrity court case of the century to a video conferencing call is surely one of the cruellest consequences of the global pandemic?

Indeed, those observing the virtual High Court hearing on the ‘Microsoft Teams’ app on Friday could have been forgiven for thinking they had strayed into a Covid-19 planning and logistics meeting between a trio of middle managers at John Lewis.

No surprises here:

It quickly became apparent that the only winners in this case would be the ones charging by the hour.

BarleylemonPenguin · 25/04/2020 08:11

That Telegraph article also looks great, Jilly. I hadn't considered that, if it goes ahead, M's own day in court will also be reduced to the rather unglamorous Teams. Still, at least she can change the background to something fancy.

OVienna · 25/04/2020 08:18

Fascinating article. Interesting they made the point it wasn't clear whether they'd told their London lawyers in advance of that letter to the papers. Noting the comment on the general pattern of behaviour as well - big announcements publicly, no time for HMQ/PC/BP to advise or respond: to me, this suggests bringing them back into the fold is a problem too. What's to say they won't continue and then the RF can't say: well, it's not us, it's them. I wonder what will happen at the 12 mo "review." They'll be looking for someone to blame - doubt they'll put their hands up first!

MrsJoshNavidi · 25/04/2020 08:27

I had a horrible dream last night that this all doesn't end will for H.
Things get more and more of of control, with M dominating more and more of his life, and there's eventually a mental breakdown and a suicide attempt.
I do hope it's not a premonition

Viviennemary · 25/04/2020 08:31

I reckon she thought she'd pocket 2 or 3 million from an out of court settlement. I don't think her Dad will speak against her. Because if he does there is absolutely no chance of a reconciliation ever.

ChicCroissant · 25/04/2020 08:55

The MoS did ask to put the Court Case off until the end of lockdown, but their offer was declined - so Meghan wants it to go ahead now, and that does make you wonder about the wisdom of sending a passive-aggressive letter to the media so close to a court case about a letter.

I thought the MoS was trying to get part of the case struck out because Meghan is making a claim about her father's feelings (about their relationship being damaged by the media) when the paper is claiming that as she hasn't spoken to him, she is unable to make a statement about his feelings. If that is right, they may have a point but Mr M hasn't exactly been shy about using the media either.

What a mess. M&H need to learn that they don't have to turn up to every argument they are invited to! Just rise above and ignore, it goes away faster than having a court case about it! There are going to be no winners in this one which is quite sad really.

BalloonSlayer · 25/04/2020 08:56

I thought the "dissatisfaction" bit implied that they haven't been happy since the wedding, and as press coverage became less fawning and more critical after the wedding (as it always does, for all royal newlyweds), they are blaming their unhappiness on the press coverage, but it might be that they are just unhappy together.

I hope not, I hope they sort themselves out, find a role and live happily ever after.

StartupRepair · 25/04/2020 09:01

It feels as if they are both just lashing out blindly at any person or institution perceived to have hurt them, rather than reflect on what their part in the mess might be.

Daffodil101 · 25/04/2020 09:01

I think Ms Markle might have relished the opportunity to appear in court, reprising her Suits character.

I reckon being in a legal drama has given her slightly unrealistic ideas

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 25/04/2020 09:06

Even the Guardian is turning against them and they have always been big MM if not H fans. The article below is using terms like grandiose which are standard narcissist descriptive vocabulary. That should be worrying the PR people because they are starting to sound impossible to work with.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/23/harry-meghan-tabloids-sussexes-newspapers

BubblesBuddy · 25/04/2020 09:09

Her dad might be required to give evidence. She might also be required to do the same. Her barrister went further yesterday and said she would give evidence. However we will be waiting for at least 6 months for the case to be heard.

Al1Langdownthecleghole · 25/04/2020 09:10

From today’s article covering this in the Times. Antony White, QC, the newspaper’s counsel, said that it was “remarkable” for the duchess to claim that her father had been “harassed, humiliated and exploited” by The Mail on Sunday when she had not spoken with him since before her wedding. He said allegations relating to Mr Markle “appear to have been put on to the record without the claimant [the duchess] having contacted her father to see if he agrees with them”.

Ouch.

TimeLady · 25/04/2020 09:11

The DM sending a warning shot across the bow?

Five of Meghan Markle’s best friends could be called to give evidence in court and asked if they colluded with the Duchess to reveal that she had sent a letter to her father

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8255225/Five-Meghan-Markles-best-friends-called-evidence.html

Although if they don't live in the UK, would they be compelled to comply with a summons?

Lordfrontpaw · 25/04/2020 09:21

Probably not

ArchePenguin · 25/04/2020 09:25

Thanks for the Forbes link. This is the concluding paragraph:

It may just be that, no matter what sort of change they make happen, Harry and Meghan are dissatisfied with themselves.

Ouch.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 25/04/2020 09:26

i hope once this is over they take time to reflect quietly about any mistakes that have been made & take time to heal away from the public gaze. Tbh this would have been the perfect time to do this but for some reason they seem to be reluctant to do so. I hope they reevaluate & think about their actions & the consequences of them. The press have not been innocent in this but the Sussexes war against the media would have been dealt with better if they’d just kept their heads down & taken time out. It may not all have gone away but out of sight out of mind. But that’s my opinion.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 25/04/2020 09:26

Apologies I thought I’d put paragraphs in that. Blush

Shitsgettingcrazy · 25/04/2020 09:52

Although if they don't live in the UK, would they be compelled to comply with a summons?

Not sure, but I imagine their refusal would have an impact in itself.

Is she still friends with these people?