Why is Harry talking?

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Is there something seriously wrong with him?

I don't think he's a nut job. I think he was (is) hurt and angry and it's perfectly understandable. Yep

Which blind gossip?

I find the tone of those texts, to a future FIL, quite extraordinarily rude. No wonder he didn't respond,

Yes there is no time of respect is there? He’s quite patronising . I also find the language use of ‘u’ a bit juvenile.

Tone

Yes the tone is terrible. Even if they were frustrated with Thomas Markle, the messages are so rude and lacking in affection.
It is so odd. Meghan praising her Dad on her blog, and then so soon afterwards this huge shift. If he had done something very wrong in that time, I would imagine that would have come out by now ?
I had a shortish time of estrangement from a parent, I do understand that things can be very complex and people can get a bit stuck, but this seems so bizarre to me. If things were problematic, why get married so quickly ? Why not meet with Thomas and talk it through properly ?

I assume things broke down when TM was paid for staged photos. I doubt MM had issues with this, but Harry no doubt did.

Given the photos were taken by the same photographer who “papped” H&M photos, I wonder if MM had a hand in setting them up.

Unfortunately Meghan's brand of self-righteousness has brought out a streak in Harry that doesn't really help him. He should have been calmed down, not stoked up :(

I don’t think it was that, as Harry hadn’t even met him then, even though it was close to the wedding.
Why did he not meet him long before ?

I agree with that ponchek

The RF were supposed to be the family she never had. And PH seemed quite happy with them. Turns out they're not up to scratch for her after all. Nor him all of a sudden.

I think TM would have been fine if he'd been shown some respect and met H and possibly the RF in the months in between the engagement and wedding at least. H should have met him a few times and made him feel at ease. Then bring him over a couple of times to the UK, meet family who I'm sure would have made him feel very welcome and accepted. None of that happened for whatever reason and perhaps partly TM's fault too - perhaps H invited him over but TM felt as H is younger and to show some respect for being M's dad that H should have travelled to see him first. TM has pride. Didn't TM say H said something to him and TM hung up the phone? No doubt he's obstinate but I think H patronised him a bit and I'd be the same as TM, i.e. show me some respect. Of course, H is an arrogant arse and TM wasn't the doddery old fool that he could snap his fingers at to get him to toe the line and he didn't like it.

It was handled appallingly and I bet PC and the queen were perplexed and worried yet they made M very welcome as that is what H wanted. If it had been my child I'd have had words at the red flags flying all over the place. H made his decision though and he's very obstinate.

Given the photos were taken by the same photographer who “papped” H&M photos, I wonder if MM had a hand in setting them up.

Thereby also “setting up” her Dad for global criticism? Interesting.

She should have invited her whole family, both sides, including Sam, they would have diluted each other. They'd have all been delighted with the gesture and ensured there was no bad behaviour as they'd have had a glimpse of a different world and wouldn't have wanted to let the side down - plus the lure of more events like this might have made them behave. If they'd have let the side down then, after the invite, then the world would have sided with M for being gracious and generous and would have thought her family are horrors, poor woman. But she wasn't and it hasn't helped her. By doing nothing she has inflamed people - TM, SM and Piers Morgan. It's not a clever way to behave. A bit of diplomacy oils the wheels of things. There are pictures of her and Sam, they got on at one point.

I think they might have seen TM as a loose cannon and tried to cover themselves a bit with the text messages and the letter.

My DF is like TM so I understand Meghan’s POV TBH.

It is humiliating for one family member to be there

That was her choice though, wasn’t it? Idk if Samantha could have been reigned in had Meghan acted more appropriately. But Meghan has family on her mother’s side. An aunt, for example. Maybe some cousins then. What about grandparents etc? She chose not to invite her wider family. Then the friends she dropped... 🚩 🚩

I don’t agree with your comments OVienna about TM in the interview. I also think he sounded angry and broken by how he’s been treated. How humiliating for him to have never met her husband or his family. None of the situation is normal. And lest we forget, it is he, who brought up Meghan from about 9 or 10, not Doria, whom Meghan has now decided to adore. She was off doing her own thing. Looks like Cinderella did have family afterall. 🙄

Imo Meghan poorly stage managed her family from the start. This was the face of things to come, I suppose, and therefore not surprising that everything came crashing down around H&M. She refused to take direction or advice whilst in the U.K. from the RF advisors and from PR consultants. Harry has followed suit. What a shit show.

The whole wedding was farcical. She looked like the cat who got the cream and came across as totally insincere, IMO. The whole big white/ivory wedding again, pledging and promising to another bloke a little higher up the chain. How people didn't see through that I'll never know. He's proven himself a total doltz.

I just some photos of Louis in the DM in honour of his birthday. Should we expect some upstaging attempt shortly then?

The whole big white/ivory wedding again, pledging and promising to another bloke a little higher up the chain.

In fairness, I think anyone should be able to have whatever kind of wedding they like. Her first one was a beach wedding, anyway.

Possibly. Harry will post a photo of a new Hollywood smile and Meghan will spout some more condescending shite, disguised as concern for the human race.

I wonder if that's the kindness of information the MOS has on Meghan that they'd like to reveal in court.

Do we think the case will go ahead?

Lizzie
TM hung up the phone when he was in hospital after the first heart attack. Harry, whom he’d obviously never met was berating him for allowing himself to be papped. That being the suit episode. His reaction was hardly surprising. Who would meekly sit on the other end of a phone feeling desperately ill while a stranger ripped you to pieces? It is despicable and very unroyal for Harry to have behaved in this way.

I see someone has said H&M were recently papped by the same agency, I’m just imagining a scenario, where Meghan has told him nothing or maybe even set the interview up. Then on seeing Harry’s reaction, pretends she had no hand in this and is equally dismayed... all this to a man, who has almost died. How betrayed would he feel? Hardly surprised he’d become a liability and loose cannon after that.

Can I just ask how do we know it was the same agency??

I agree there were enough family respectable enough to invite - TM's brothers for instance, a bishop (?) and a diplomat (?) and on Doria's side too. There are photos of her as an adult with these people so what went wrong? Whether the relationship with Thomas junior and Sam could have been repaired before the wedding I don't know but not doing it didn't help, she could have thrown them a few crumbs now and again to keep them happy and have headed off a lot of what happened. By doing nothing the floodgates opened as TM in particular is very hurt. With time what TM did with the staged photos seems so unimportant. He ended up embarrassed no doubt but he'd been left to run wild in a way.

The RF have had enough experience of handling embarrassing situations of their own. They could have managed this better.

I agree mummyoflittledragon. H's superior attitude hasn't helped and TM is proud and wouldn't stand for it - I wouldn't have either. Doria seems quiet and malleable. Kate has got a colourful uncle on her side, no one cares. For all their faults I think the RF would have had the grace to put them all at ease - this is what they do. Even if they gossiped and laughed behind people's backs in private, in front of M's family they would have been gracious.