Royals and American media coverage

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Saw this cover posted on Twitter and noted that it seems the tabloids do indeed exist in the US (amazing, huh?). This is pretty much what you'd expect from the source, and I think it's pretty deplorable, but I am interested to see how the American media in general cover the presence of the former royals who've now arrived to make their home there. Of course we can discuss their coverage of other Royals too and related topics. All welcome.

Link to cover story - please note I'm not endorsing it, I'm just sharing it:
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canihaveapenguin thanks for that, I never really understood what it meant. So it's like it's wiped off your scorecard legally at least.

what are the grounds? non-consummation, either partner still being married? abuse? lies? and can either partner seek an annulment?

Yes either party can seek. It could be several reasons. Coercion, non consummation. Generally not abuse or lies. That would be more divorce on the grounds of unreasonable behaviour. I think that’s been done away with but I no longer practice due to disability so can’t remember. I’ve pmed you.

But court records are not normally "wiped" in the US. An annulment means that legally the marriage was voided. It does not mean that all record of the marriage and annulment would be as though they never happened.

Annulment is mainly due to being underage, under duress, fraud, nor consummated etc. Really odd to have an annulment rather than a divorce. Maybe she didn’t follow through on the religious side of things and that was cause.

Yolo, Henry VIII wanted an annulment from Catherine of Aragon because of her alleged consummation of her marriage to Arthur, his brother. Henry broke away from the Catholic Church because the Pope wouldn't grant the annulment.
Henry VIII Wives
Divorced Catherine of Aragon
Beheaded Anne Boleyn
Died Jane Seymour
Divorced Anne of Cleves
Beheaded Katherine Howard
Survived. Catherine Parr

I wonder if that's when she became friends with Millie Macintosh as she was on MIC

Also not sure if this has been posted

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It is possible that some of the grounds for annulment would also be grounds for having records sealed; for example, lack of capacity to consent or being a minor could be reasons.

However, even if Meghan did have an annulment, it is still accurate to say that she has been married twice.

An annulment is just that. It’s as if the marriage never existed.

Yes, and records of annulment are not maintained by the state. What is maintained is records of court applications, but in the US, one would need to know the correct county to do a search. Also, depending on when an annulment occurs, finding that record may not be easy. It can, however, be done with enough time and sleuthing.

even if Meghan did have an annulment, it is still accurate to say that she has been married twice.

I don't believe anyone claimed otherwise.

I think we can all agree that if Meghan Sussex had converted to Judaism the UK tabloids would have made sure we knew it through their barely coded references.

Annulment means different things in different legal jurisdictions (and times - you wouldn't get an annulment today because your older brother had slept with your -then his - wife)

Well perhaps you weren't "claiming" otherwise, Winterlife, but I assume your reference to Meghan's second husband was not to Harry.

Oops sorry. I meant reference to first husband was not to Trevor.

I specifically posted wedding. Not marriage, wedding.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease Fri 10-Apr-20 09:18:00

They were not sucking lemons. They were in a church at a service. H&M behaved badly. In church.

Oh for goodness sake, they were po faced.
Definitely sucking lemons. Or bored rigid.

(And since when does Liam Payne singing a John Meyer number accompanied by two guitars qualify as churchworthy anyway?)

It was the commonwealth service wasn’t it? That seems to be slightly anything goes and is less church-y. But it’s still rude to smirk & laugh. And other people sucking lemons doesn’t change that, so not sure why you’re using that as a defence.

Not that I think they were sucking lemons. I think they looked rather humourless but so did everyone else, it’s their look of concentration and taking it seriously. After all Liam looked to be taking it seriously.

If I was a performer I’d rather have WaK’s expressions than the private-in-joke and Meghan’s very obvious laughing.

math I stand by my opinion. I’ve just rewatched it. The RF are solemn apart from H&M who are sniggering like a couple of school children.

But you are of course entitled to your opinion as to what is acceptable in a religious venue & event as I am to mine.

If Meghan had converted to Judiasm the UK press wouldn't use "coded language" Pallisers they'd just say it. As others have mentioned, this is quite a process to go through and you'd expect the person to have an ongoing commitment to it, having been through it. It would be a reasonable thing to explore how H&M planned to manage that going forward with children etc.

However, as I said before, I very much doubt that happened.

When did Meghan stick her tongue out at Camilla?

When did Meghan stick her tongue out at Camilla?

23rd May 1991 at 4:67pm.

Is this the right thread? Someone somewhere posted a list of MM’s faults and sticking her tongue out was one of them.

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But you are of course entitled to your opinion as to what is acceptable in a religious venue & event as I am to mine.

Yes, and it ain't the musical stylings of Liam Payne on Commonwealth Day, and I suspect William and Kate were thinking wtf.

'rather humourless'

One way of putting it.

Thanks roses

Is that confirmed tongue sticking?

I’ve seen the shot before and thought it’s unfortunately timed shot of her licking her lips.

I always thought it was just a badly timed shot too. I can't believe she'd stick her tongue out. It looks like they're walking in that shot too so unlikely to be directed at anyone.