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Royals and American media coverage

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ButteryPuffin · 04/04/2020 23:50

Saw this cover posted on Twitter and noted that it seems the tabloids do indeed exist in the US (amazing, huh?). This is pretty much what you'd expect from the source, and I think it's pretty deplorable, but I am interested to see how the American media in general cover the presence of the former royals who've now arrived to make their home there. Of course we can discuss their coverage of other Royals too and related topics. All welcome.

Link to cover story - please note I'm not endorsing it, I'm just sharing it:
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CanIHaveAnArchePlease · 08/04/2020 20:03

Well quite frankly I’m enjoying the H&M distraction in these troubled times.

7Penguins · 08/04/2020 20:04

lizzie this is so visually pleasing and aesthetic, have you employed a team of digital experts and PRs? Grin

lizzie1970a · 08/04/2020 20:08

Thank you 7Penguins Grin

FizzAfterSix · 08/04/2020 20:15

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Froq · 08/04/2020 20:51

Did someone ask for a delivery? Grin

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7Penguins · 08/04/2020 20:56

When the world economy collapses, onion will be the new currency.
Or pictures of cats.

Either way, I’ll be rich Grin

Ilovellamasandpenguins · 08/04/2020 21:09

Yes, but which type of onion will be worth the most.

Waspie · 08/04/2020 21:11
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ArriettyJones · 08/04/2020 21:14

When the world economy collapses, onion will be the new currency.

Oh good. I have string bags of onions hanging everywhere.

Ilovellamasandpenguins · 08/04/2020 21:17

Arrietty - you will be a onion millionaire in the new world order.

Get ordering that yatch!

LilyMumsnet · 08/04/2020 21:41

Hi folks

We'll have to delete this thread if people continue trying to make other users feel unwelcome.
Can we have a bit of peace and love? If you don't like something, don't reply.

7Penguins · 08/04/2020 21:52

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mathanxiety · 08/04/2020 22:00

BarleylemonPenguin
It’s the definition of a free society. There are only three solutions to the issue of views or behaviors that are different to one another (diverse): 1) rely naturally on people having the ‘correct’ view or behavior 2) control it (view or behavior) 3) let it run free (view or behavior). Each position has costs and benefits to society.

Well in that case let's do away with the broadcasting watershed. Heck, let's show pornography on BBC2. This would be fine according to your costs and benefits theory.

The cost/benefit to society analysis of a publication like the DM tilts very strongly to the cost side.

You get the newspapers you put up with and the government those newspapers tell you you deserve.

BarleylemonPenguin · 08/04/2020 22:00

5LeafPenguin Unless of course its a hard ch in Arch-e- like chi squared

This is exactly the type of comment I come to MN for Grin.

rockingchaircandle · 08/04/2020 22:04

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7Penguins · 08/04/2020 22:05

mathanxiety porn on TV is what you immediately think of when you hear freedom? Confused

Winterlife · 08/04/2020 22:10

Well in that case let's do away with the broadcasting watershed. Heck, let's show pornography on BBC2. This would be fine according to your costs and benefits theory.

The cost/benefit to society analysis of a publication like the DM tilts very strongly to the cost side.

You get the newspapers you put up with and the government those newspapers tell you you deserve.

This makes no sense, although I think I know what you're trying to say.

So who plays God and gets to decide what we are allowed to read and what we aren't?

BarleylemonPenguin · 08/04/2020 22:21

So who plays God and gets to decide what we are allowed to read and what we aren't?

That's one of the key issues. In a free society, the making of these types of decisions shifts to the individual. People have a choice whether to consume or not. In a controlled society, this choice is made for you.

Froq · 08/04/2020 22:24

I couldn't believe that it would still be the same old opinions being flung around by the same clique.

This makes me feel unwelcome.

7Penguins · 08/04/2020 22:26

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LaMarschallin · 08/04/2020 22:32

Mr LaMa claims that everything reminds me of "Friends"...

Ross: Do you really want to throw that all away over a post room? That is so silly. Now what is more important, love or silliness?

Chandler: Well, we are fond of the silliness

Hate it when Mr LaMa is right.

mathanxiety · 08/04/2020 22:36

ArriettyJones
I think it was ill-advised, badly timed and did them no favours. Not their worst PR clanger by a long way but not great
Their timing was dictated by the Telegraph.
How did its content do them no favours?
How was it ill-advised, content wise or timing wise, given the Telegraph intervention?

"Not sure what you are objecting to about the Tom Bradby bit either."

I don’t know where to start. Complete car crash. Made them look awful. Both of them sounded whiny and spoilt against a backdrop of genuinely deprived and struggling people whose difficulties and resilience they were supposed to be highlighting. HIV sufferers and rape survivors and goodness knows what other groups in South Africa FGS. So the two multi millionaires have a little dance with these underprivileged women and visit a project or two then start telling us how hard THEY have it.

You are assuming that mental health problems or the hurt and serious effects of racism don't affect the well off.
You are dehumanising them both if that is so. Everyone's problem with mental health and racism is a serious problem.

In speaking about the issues they face, they speak for people who will never have a microphone placed in front of them.

Presumably you recall Barack and Michelle Obama, and the comments directed at them and in particular at Michelle ('ape in heels')?
Maybe you think they should have shrugged everything off?
Michelle Obama tells of being wounded by racism as first lady
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/27/michelle-obama-wounded-racism-first-lady

Pretending experiences didn’t hurt would let perpetrators off hook, says Obama as she praises women’s strength

The personal is political. This doesn't just apply to sexism.

Your 'hands in the air', 'what's the point' approach just leaves the field open to the shameless and the hate-filled. Your idea that complaints should be lodged with the PCC misses the point that public and prominent calling out of racism by those fortunate enough to have a microphone in front of them involves speaking up on behalf of those whose voices will never be heard, and establishes the perception that decency still exists.

People who have access to the media and direct experience of the issues H&M spoke about have a duty to use that access.

The quibble about timing is silly - and again dehumanising, and your perception of their remarks (whiny, etc) along with your description of their trip to SA is extremely disparaging. It's clear you are motivated by personal animosity toward both of them.

They could have done a sit down with him on another occasion back in London and planned it properly, and avoided that juxtaposition of their problems and serious (poverty, illness, sexual violence) problems
Are you implying that 'serious' problems only exist elsewhere? Because there is poverty, illness, and sexual violence aplenty in London.

I have a sneaking suspicion that an interview conducted in Frogmore Cottage in which they spoke of MH issues and racism would be scoffed at too.

Winterlife · 08/04/2020 22:47

Their timing was dictated by the Telegraph.

No it wasn't. All The Telegraph had was the name of the foundation.
H&M have claimed the timing was due to The Telegraph. Personally, I don't believe that. I think it's rather a strange coincidence that the timing came immediately after HM's speech.

SenecaFallsRedux · 08/04/2020 23:20

The Telegraph had more than the name. They had evidently found the trademark application, which is public record in the US.