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Royals and American media coverage

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ButteryPuffin · 04/04/2020 23:50

Saw this cover posted on Twitter and noted that it seems the tabloids do indeed exist in the US (amazing, huh?). This is pretty much what you'd expect from the source, and I think it's pretty deplorable, but I am interested to see how the American media in general cover the presence of the former royals who've now arrived to make their home there. Of course we can discuss their coverage of other Royals too and related topics. All welcome.

Link to cover story - please note I'm not endorsing it, I'm just sharing it:
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ArriettyJones · 07/04/2020 12:43

Do you think they used branding experts? I suspect not, but if they did they should negotiate a refund.

It’s very different from “Sussex Royal”. They fought so hard to keep that one, that the radical departure into made up words seems strange.

ArriettyJones · 07/04/2020 12:43

I was assuming Arch-well @5LeafPenguin

5LeafPenguin · 07/04/2020 12:51

Thanks, that's the most likely. Unless of course its a hard ch in Arch-e- like chi squared... in which case Arkwell.

5LeafPenguin · 07/04/2020 13:01

Just seen there's a whole thread on pronouncing Arkwell /Archwell elsewhere. Sorry, esp as I was enjoying the media discussion

ArriettyJones · 07/04/2020 13:18

Oh is there? Well they got people talking then. Even if it isn’t for the reason they wanted Grin

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 07/04/2020 14:30

Arrietty Grin

It’s an odd name choice for sure. Unless as a pp said they are basing it on the Greek for beginning. Pronounced in Greek as ‘arhi’ with the ‘I’ the same as the word ‘hit’.

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Becles · 07/04/2020 15:57
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Becles · 07/04/2020 16:01

Hmm 😬

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MissEliza · 07/04/2020 16:23

The level of ignorance of actual American life on this thread is very amusing. Nothing wrong with that. Mumsnet is a British based site.

SenecaFallsRedux · 07/04/2020 16:46

It may be a British-based site, but it was started to discuss media in the United States. And yes, I think the Americans posting on this thread have demonstrated superior knowledge of the subject, which should come as no surprise.

PenguinOrHippo · 07/04/2020 16:53

There has been some illuminating post from Americans. In addition to a lecture on Brexit for some reason Confused

SenecaFallsRedux · 07/04/2020 17:06

That's only because British people have lost a wee bit of the moral high ground in accusing Americans of insularity after Brexit.

PenguinOrHippo · 07/04/2020 17:22

In a democratic procedure (with a very close call), a majority of the British people voted for Brexit for various reasons.

In a democratic procedure (with a quite close call) a majority of the American people voted for Trump for various reasons.

I am sure there are several political threads to knock yourselves out discussing it. I am neither British, nor American btw.

Jillyhilly · 07/04/2020 17:41

In a democratic procedure (with a very close call), a majority of the British people voted for Brexit for various reasons.

In a democratic procedure (with a quite close call) a majority of the American people voted for Trump for various reasons.

Delurking to say that this is literally the most sensible thing anyone has ever said on either subject. I mean that most sincerely PenguinOrHippo.

SenecaFallsRedux · 07/04/2020 17:44

A majority of voters in the 2016 presidential election in the US voted for Hillary Clinton.

OVienna · 07/04/2020 17:59

Yep. Have to say, I'd switch those sentences around to say:

In a democratic procedure (with quite a close call), a majority of the British people voted for Brexit for various reasons.

In a democratic procedure (with a very close call) a majority of the American people voted for Trump for various reasons.

Trump won on basically a procedural issue, Seneca is right HRC won the popular vote by 3m. I am not even sure Obama won the popular vote by that much. It was just concentrated in certain states.

But Penguin - you are right as well. Plenty of places to debate both things elsewhere.

OVienna · 07/04/2020 17:59

HRC's win that is.

PenguinOrHippo · 07/04/2020 18:00

I am not really familiar with the exact voter turnout in the last US election - which obviously played a big part. I believe it is a first past the post system, similar to the UK, so turnout in each state matters a lot?

My DH has a book on his bedside table named some like “why we get the politicians we deserve” . It was recommended to him by his old politics teacher. I think I will use the lockdown to read it.

PenguinOrHippo · 07/04/2020 18:02

Cross posts. Thank you Jilly and OV.

And yes, so many other threads to debate this....

Needmoresleep · 07/04/2020 18:03

Oh Seneca, some Britons are insular, and some Americans are insular. Plenty are also ignorant about others in their own country.

But not everyone and that is why sweeping generalisations are offensive. These are both big and diverse countries. We each have different experiences. I have worked in the US and in France and Germany as well as Asia, I speak five languages, my son studies in the US and my daughter spent her gap year working there and in France, my DC went to schools where only a minority of parents would have been British born, and indeed DD wound up near fluent in French from hanging out with kids from the Lycee, whilst DS was the only Brit out of 40 on his Masters degree in London.

Its cool, though I have a slightly concern about the extent to which they really understand how atypical a Central London childhood is. There is an analysis that describes people as either "anywheres" or "somewheres", and part of my concern about the EU is that it is run by Brussels' "anywheres" who fail to understand Europe's "somewheres". I have a great Fb feed with lots of articles posted from all over the world and a long standing subscription to the New Yorker (I love New York) but have spent much of the last decade working with carers, and tradespeople as I looked after a parent living with dementia. As a result I am often astonished at how little Londoners can understand their own countrymen and how easily they seem to despise them. I would see Brexit, and the recent election, not as anti-immigration but a protest vote against power cliques who seem to see themselves as entitled to run the country.

I could equally ask whether Americans understand America. DD reported that the parents of many of her American friends voted Trump, and a friend of mine confirmed she was probably right, though of course no one says so. My friend suggested that Trump was the master of the single issue. He offered action on a number of things that matter to specific voters (tax breaks which appealed to London's international rich, being one example) and which brought in the votes. He deals in transactions, not ideology.

My friend also suggests she is confused by the US/UK divide on Meghan. (She and her husband decided they would have been in London too long when they started to understand British humour. She now gets it and accepts that she is now probably here for good.) American friends and family were very pro-Meghan. The British were clearly beastly racists. It appears very different through a British prism.

Ilovellamasandpenguins · 07/04/2020 18:11

seneca - are you making a sweeping generalisation that as the (small) majority of people voted for Brexit, that means we are all insular???

But how did this turn into a thread about brexit? There are other threads to discuss that

PenguinOrHippo · 07/04/2020 18:30

Seneca, but it may be likely that you are getting another term of president Trump?

Forgive me, I am not that familiar with US politics, but didn’t Joe Biden a quite important democratic candidate? Who introduced his wife as his sister, confused Theresa may with Margret Thatcher and state that men and women were created by “this thing”....?

SenecaFallsRedux · 07/04/2020 19:17

are you making a sweeping generalisation that as the (small) majority of people voted for Brexit, that means we are all insular???

Of course not. I brought up Brexit in response to posters making sweeping generalizations about insularity in the US. Here is an actual quotation from the thread:

Americans are pretty insular.

HarryDaylight · 07/04/2020 19:25

Is that the best you can do Seneca?

Really?

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