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Royals and American media coverage

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ButteryPuffin · 04/04/2020 23:50

Saw this cover posted on Twitter and noted that it seems the tabloids do indeed exist in the US (amazing, huh?). This is pretty much what you'd expect from the source, and I think it's pretty deplorable, but I am interested to see how the American media in general cover the presence of the former royals who've now arrived to make their home there. Of course we can discuss their coverage of other Royals too and related topics. All welcome.

Link to cover story - please note I'm not endorsing it, I'm just sharing it:
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BarleylemonPenguin · 06/04/2020 17:03

I get that some people would be more aware of royal protocol like opening car doors, wearing tights or crossing/ not crossing legs

Wasn’t it more about what happened at Wimbledon, the Disney-Deal thing and pj travel hypocrisy rather than tights or leg crossing for most people?

ArriettyJones · 06/04/2020 17:13

Interestingly, among the European nations, Poland stands out as never having had a slave trade.

And yet racism and far-right politics are a problem in Poland. None of these issues are straightforward.

Winterlife · 06/04/2020 17:19

Poland had serfdom, which is basically slavery under another name.

chrisseldah1 · 06/04/2020 17:23

@BarleylemonPenguin

I understand that some would hate the hypocrisy of some actions like Wimbledon and baby shower private jets and that’s fair enough.

What I found unfair was the constant negative daily headlines about her even when pregnant. See the Disney deal for me was a good thing, elephant without borders is a great charity that will benefit greatly from her donation. There are over 130k elephants in Botswana that are at risk. Poaching and overpopulation of these pose the constant human/animal conflict as the animals encroach in farms resulting in death for both at times .When I heard that she was doing a voice over and donating her fee to the charity I was actually glad.How she got that role does not really concern me but I get that it may annoy other people.

I maintain that the tabloids set the tone from the very beginning of how they were going to cover her, and she was always going to trip over as no human being is without fault.

SenecaFallsRedux · 06/04/2020 17:32

Oooh, a Brexit/racism off topic rabbit hole, never seen one before!

The thread title is about the media. In the context of discussing media, insularity came up, particularly in the context of the US. Brexit is an example of insularity on a large scale. So it's not off-topic or a rabbit hole.

BarleylemonPenguin · 06/04/2020 17:33

See the Disney deal for me was a good thing

It’s a good deal for the elephants but a bad deal for Deal. Which one ‘wins’, and why?

lizzie1970a · 06/04/2020 17:35

The announcement that she was donating the fee was well after though, probably to head off more criticism. They were still full-time members of the RF at the point they were seeking work on the red carpet, there in a professional capacity for the RF. It was embarrassing and not behaviour expected of the RF - you don't look for private work like this! They were rightly criticised and it really isn't justifiable in anyway, regardless of which charity it was for.

lizzie1970a · 06/04/2020 17:36

They've done themselves no favours time and again and yet people still wonder why they're criticised.

Needmoresleep · 06/04/2020 17:46

Seneca, why the broad generalisation. I doubt very much that all leavers are insular. The EU is a trade block, which aims to give competitive advantage to its members by erecting trade barriers. Insularity on a grand scale.

Or did you not study economics at school.

DandyPenguin · 06/04/2020 17:51

They were still full-time members of the RF at the point they were seeking work on the red carpet, there in a professional capacity for the RF.

This is a very good point in terms of knowing protocol. Harry would have known it was against protocol to do this. It was an abuse of his position to pitch at that time in the way he did, and the fee going to charity doesn’t change that. Just by being there he’d already not done the done thing because he’d reneged on fulfilling a pre-existing solemn military commitment to go to the premiere.

By doing Meghan that favour, Harry did her know favours in terms of demonstrating that they as a couple prioritised duty over showbiz connections and self-promotion.

chrisseldah1 · 06/04/2020 17:57

Lol would she have been allowed to keep the money though? . I would like to think that Harry having partnered with various charities over the years would have been aware that his wife was never going to pocket the fee. Why then wasn’t it assumed that she would be grabby with the cookbook sales or the smart works sales. Is it because Harry was caught/ heard in camera talking about Meghan and potentially doing a voice over.

I’m sure there is a timeline of the specific events out there if what /how exactly this came about, will try to search for it. And if it shows that Harry and Meghan initially wanted to use the fee for their own benefit then I will gladly call them out for it.

Needmoresleep · 06/04/2020 17:57

Sorry, but these sweeping statements really irritate.

Seneca, out of interest, how many EU languages do you speak. How many EU countries have you lived in. I am sure I can beat you on both. Yet YOU feel it is alright to call ME insular.

This was what was so utterly frustrating about Brexit. Remainers thinking they had the right to insult as a substitute for argument.

SenecaFallsRedux · 06/04/2020 17:57

Seneca, why the broad generalisation.

I was in part responding to a generalization. But even without a degree in economics, I recognize that many factors are involved in Brexit. But insular attitudes among some of the electorate played a part. And certainly there have been elements of xenophobia, if not racism, in Brexit.

phoenixrosehere · 06/04/2020 17:59

The announcement that she was donating the fee was well after though, probably to head off more criticism. They were still full-time members of the RF at the point they were seeking work on the red carpet, there in a professional capacity for the RF. It was embarrassing and not behaviour expected of the RF - you don't look for private work like this! They were rightly criticised and it really isn't justifiable in anyway, regardless of which charity it was for.

The documentary was discussed in 2017 so they weren’t seeking work for this.

www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/04/meghan-markle-elephant-voiceover-botswana-trip

chrisseldah1 · 06/04/2020 17:59

@BarleylemonPenguin the elephants won in the end😂. I think/hope

DandyPenguin · 06/04/2020 18:00

My point wasn’t about the money. I thought I made that clear. It was about that incident showing Harry not following protocol or prioritising his duty.

RosesandIris · 06/04/2020 18:03

Meghan showed absolutely no sign of wanting to integrate, learn about British customs or take an interest in our history or politics. From the off she was only interested in the US audience and how she was perceived back home. It takes two to Tango and all that.

scottsdc15 · 06/04/2020 18:03

They were still full-time members of the RF at the point they were seeking work on the red carpet, there in a professional capacity for the RF.

The Disney deal wasn't reported while they were full time royals. It was only reported after they announced they intended to pursue commercial deals (by cashing in on their royal position.) In the context of their plan, it looks really bad.

DandyPenguin · 06/04/2020 18:05

@phoenixrosehere

Here’s the opening para from the article you linked to. I’ve bolded a pertinent phrase.

“When Meghan Markle and Prince Harry announced their desire to step back from the royal family in January, one small moment stood out as a sign that the couple had been planning their exit for quite some time. Footage of a conversation between Harry and Disney CEO Bob Iger in July showed the prince talking up his wife’s skills as a voiceover actor. On Friday, Meghan’s collaboration with Disneynature, Elephant is being released on Disney+, but according to People, the real inspiration for her participation happened back in 2017, when she and Harry visited Bostwana to assist the charity Elephants Without Borders.”

The source for this People magazine. A gossip mag, if not a tabloid.

And the magazine that 5 of Meghan’s friends spoke to a year or so ago.

This is not a non-biased source known for its well-founded journalism.

BarleylemonPenguin · 06/04/2020 18:07

the elephants won in the end😂. I think/hope

They did, but respecting the memory of the dead Marines lost. They couldn’t be in two places at once so had to make a decision. The taxpayers were paying them to honour the dead. They made the wrong decision.

SenecaFallsRedux · 06/04/2020 18:11

Meghan showed absolutely no sign of wanting to integrate, learn about British customs or take an interest in our history or politics. From the off she was only interested in the US audience and how she was perceived back home. It takes two to Tango and all that.

I disagree. She was doing lots of royal type engagements and there were several reports in the media of people on the receiving end of those engagements being impressed about her having done her homework and being knowledgeable about their work and the issues they were addressing.

phoenixrosehere · 06/04/2020 18:12

Yet, it’s okay for people to use DM and the Sun as sources.

chrisseldah1 · 06/04/2020 18:15

How did Meghan show that she had no interest in learning how to integrate? This really fascinated me, especially about learning British Customs . To me she always seemed respectful, she worked with various ‘British’ charities and showed grit. What British history didn’t she try to learn or disrespect?.

DandyPenguin · 06/04/2020 18:16

Who says it’s okay for people to use the DM and the Sun as sources? I certainly don’t.

chrisseldah1 · 06/04/2020 18:18

@BarleylemonPenguin oh there we can agree. They should have attended the memorial considering Harry’s military connections. Maybe they just wanted a date night to mix with Beyoncé 😂