Club Penguin Royal - the intricacies of the monarchy etc

[yoloPenguinsEatfish]

Have taken the liberty of starting a new fred if no one else has?

It's called Birkhall

@MissEliza He's at Birkhall, but it's on the Balmoral estate

@lyralalala I didn't know that.

I wonder if it to do with the theory that pollution levels exacerbate the illness. He is there for clean air.

Balmoral Estate is approximately 50.000 acres, it's very remote. So plenty of room to self isolate.
Men are more likely to die from the Coronavirus,. I've no idea why.

And it really underscores how this notion of Meghan telling Harry he can't go see his father is likely total BS.

Nice try but it doesn’t.

For your reasoning to hold you’re relying on a chain of presumptions to be fact.

If Charles was seriously unwell
If Harry even wanted to visit him
If Harry’s international travel was allowed Covid-wise.
If the govt & RF would be fine with Harry being the Regent and aren’t already putting plans in place for that not to happen given his stepping down.
If Harry himself would even be up for being the Regent given he stepped down from the royal duties he had because it was toxic and not working for his family.

Yes I meant amending regency act for Kate to be regent. I don’t see the issue personally as she will be the mother of a king. God it’s all so morbid but not out of the realms of possibility. I just bloody hope not. As it will be a mess. I will be very sad if Charles doesn’t become king as he’s spent his life waiting for it.

Dandy yes, indeed. Thanks for your list of other reasons that Meghan saying that to Harry is likely total bullshit.

There’s none at Meghan has forbidden Harry to visit. She may have told him it’s not advisable in the current crisis (& she’s right) but Harry would likely never forgive her if anything happened to his dad & she’d forbidden him from visiting.

No way not none. Blooming autocorrect.

There's no question of Charles 'not being a candidate for a ventilator'. He's the heir to the throne and if he needs one, he will get one. Same as the Queen would, regardless of age or existing conditions. I'm not saying it's fair but it's certainly what would happen.

That said, I am puzzled by the transfer to Balmoral. Maybe someone at Highgrove has got it too and so they felt a totally different location would be safer?

Re William and George, surely Anmer Hall is big enough that one could be self-isolated if needs be? Or do we think they'll now be kept apart as a precaution?

Harry's not going to be visiting anyone. Flights are mostly grounded even for the elite, and he would be stuck here if he came now. Plus there would be the risk, however small, of taking it back to Archie.

I agree it's morbid to be discussing these things; we have done it on various threads before when it was all very hypothetical and more just as aspect of discussing history, the RF, etc. But the times we are now living in does make it seem much more potentially immediate. It functions on a personal level, too. DH and I, like many other people we know, are quietly sorting things out and getting our affairs more in order so that our adult children will have an easier time, if it should come to that.

Balmoral Estate is approximately 50.000 acres, it's very remote. So plenty of room to self isolate.

The fact it is so remote makes it a very odd choice of place for a 71-year-old man to go.

Sandringham has lots of space. Highgrove has space.

To go to the arse end of nowhere when you are already ill with a condition that causes pneumonia in many people, and your wife has a history of struggling to get over chest infections, is either planned for a specific reason (and I'm curious to what could possibly make it a good idea) or downright irresponsible

Also, even if Harry was able to travel, I would expect Charles as a loving parent to tell him not to come in person and put himself at risk. They can Skype and I hope they'll have been doing that.

@SenecaFallsRedux that doesn’t make sense, I’m happy to explain if you don’t understand why.

My list was a causal chain about your reasoning - each point dependent on the other. Your reasoning is that Harry has to stay in Canada for safety reasons to protect the line of succession. It does not correlate with Meghan telling him he can’t visit his father. Two-fifths of my list has no relevance to Meghan telling him he can’t go.

And it’s entirely possible that the two concepts are both true: Meghan could have told him he’s not allowed to go and he’s not allowed to go because they want to keep the potential heirs separate.

I have no idea whether she’s told me he can’t go, I doubt she has.

Er, correction: I do have an idea whether she’s told me he can’t go - I can confirm she hasn’t told me anything.

And I have no idea whether she’s told Harry he can’t go, but doubt she has. Highly doubt in fact.

Dandy My reasoning was to suggest that there would be no need for her to say such a thing as it would be highly unlikely to even be an option. I gave one reason for that being unlikely. My one reason is not mutually exclusive to other reasons.

Uh-huh.

I actually assume that the royals all have their own personal ventilators. They all have their own little monograms on them so they won’t get mixed up. A bit like the movie Dave when the president was being kept in an underground bunker after having a stroke and they brought in a lookalike.

The DM have a photo of HMQ on the phone allegedly to Boris. Love that she's using an old school plug in phone. It probably has a dial.

Delurking!

I'm not sure how relevant it is now, but in the past there has always been a big issue around the crown being head of state in Scotland as well as England.

Maybe they consider it prudent to have a senior royal in Scotland for that reason?

I'm also fairly sure there will be two ventilators sitting in Balmoral just in case.

And the leak about Meghan forbidding Harry to go is very odd.

Firstly he'd struggle to get a flight, and second they are clearly separating the senior royals to avoid contagion.

Seems a rather strange thing to leak as it just makes her look bossy, when he wouldn't be able to come back anyway

Is that true that you get mild symptoms, think you have recovered and then get ill again?

I think that's just the DM headline. I can quite believe Meghan told him she wouldn't be happy about him travelling - but then who in her position would be? It's a stretch to call that forbidding him.

I shudder at the thought of Harry being made Regent. I don't think he would want the job anyway but if he took it on he would just channel Meghan as he does now. Andrew would be preferable, and that's saying something.

I went and read the DM piece. The headline is misleading. From the article -

The insider said the Duchess of Sussex told Harry that 'under no circumstances, is she okay with him traveling anywhere right now.'

I don't view that as an unusual statement for a wife to express to a husband during a global pandemic, even if he raised the possibility of travel as an expression of desire rather than action. I also don't view that as controlling. I also don't doubt the accuracy of the account, and have little doubt whoever the "source" is, that source has H&M's blessing to release this.

I do still find all the anonymous sources' stating H&M are "doers" and want to "do" things to help the world during this pandemic as eyeroll worthy.

^sources