Club Penguin Royal - the intricacies of the monarchy etc

[yoloPenguinsEatfish]

Have taken the liberty of starting a new fred if no one else has?

Why am I being ridiculous? My DH is ventilating patients, is exhausted but hasn’t been tested. He doesn’t have a mask and a limited supply of gloves.

Why should PC be tested before him? With some of these comments I hope you don’t need NHS help.

I don't think it's ridiculous @Parker231, I think it's fair comment and health workers should be top priority for testing. Sadly we live in a world where the rich and privileged are able to get tested easily while others in greater need struggle. I'm not sure that will change. But I agree with you 100%. Hope your other half is ok - thank him for what he's doing from me.

You are mixing issues up. NHS staff deserve to be well protected and over 70s deserve to be tested if they are showing symptoms. These are two separate issues. My dad is 76. Should he not be tested if showing mild symptoms because your dh hasn't?

There will be a major panic going on over this.

The last thing the government, or country, needs right now is a high profile royal to die.

People have shown that they won't stay indoors already. The thought of endless streams of people turning up to lay flowers at Buckingham palace if one of them dies will be terrifying the government.

It'll be particularly an issue if it is the Queen because she is so well liked, but with any of them it will be an issue.

They'll be frantically drawing up plans of what to do because the thought of people lining a funeral route or gathering somewhere to lay flowers will be causing headaches for planners.

I wonder if H was informed before it was released to the press.

William must be so stressed - I bet he doesn’t expect or want the top job for another 10-15 years at least.

I would expect that Harry was contacted before it was released to the press. I hope it makes H&M rethink their rather petty policy of refusing to let the RF see Archie .... you never know when it will be the last time ....

You are mixing issues up. NHS staff deserve to be well protected and over 70s deserve to be tested if they are showing symptoms. These are two separate issues.

This.

It’s not an either or situation. We are highly unlikely to know all that is going on with Prince Charles - I suspect he is quite ill. I can’t begrudge someone with symptoms in a high risk category being tested. It’s important to know god treatment and also planning.

And I say that as someone who’s been advised they probably do have coronavirus and would really like to have a test to know for sure.

It’s crazy to me that the UK isn’t testing more, there are many people like me who possibly have it or had it who are recovering at home. It would cause a huge change in the statistics but make them more accurate and allow for better forecasting and planning. But this is new, and there aren’t enough tests or resources to test, so I understand to a certain extent why it’s not happening on a practical level.

Re medical staff - It’s the lack of PPE that’s the urgent concern for me, rather than the lack of testing in those not showing symptoms. I hope the Govt get them all the equipment they need ASAP.

My DH is ventilating patients, is exhausted but hasn’t been tested. He doesn’t have a mask and a limited supply of gloves.

Why should PC be tested before him? With some of these comments I hope you don’t need NHS help.

Is your husband showing symptoms? If not, then how often should he be tested while asymptomatic? Hourly? Daily? Weekly?

I'd be more concerned about the lack of protective gear than testing asymptomatic healthcare workers.

I'm in Canada, and healthcare workers here are wearing masks. My sister is a physician. They were given "sealed" masks, and tested to ensure nothing permeated the seal.

I assume Prince Charles moved to a location where he has less contact with others.

With some of these comments I hope you don't need NHS help. What a nasty thing to say. No one has said anything critical of the NHS staff.

I presume that Prince Charles is in Scotland due to a deliberate government policy - I said to DH last Thursday when the Queen and Prince Philip were moved to Windsor that I thought they were moving them before the lockdown. Does anyone know when Prince Charles went to Scotland, or the Cambridges to Amner Hall? I'm assuming them all being out of London and is separate parts of the country is official government planning to not have them in the capital during lockdown (risk of civil unrest?) and in not having them all together so we don't lose the whole direct line of succession together.

parker I have total, utter sympathy for your DH and you and your family - you must be stressed beyond all belief, please thank him, and by extension you and yours, for everything.

The lack of PPE for NHS staff is absolutely disgusting.

But, we can all be concerned about more than one thing at at time, and PC getting a test is not directly stopping your DH getting one (although I get that it must feel like that).

ButteryPuffin

I don't think it's ridiculous @Parker231, I think it's fair comment and health workers should be top priority for testing. Sadly we live in a world where the rich and privileged are able to get tested easily while others in greater need struggle. I'm not sure that will change. But I agree with you 100%. Hope your other half is ok - thank him for what he's doing from me.

A good post. As you say, disparity exists but in this case it rankles. That doctors and nurses are being treated like this is shameful.

Nothing about Parker’s concerns is “ridiculous”.

@shufflestep Apparently they went 4 days ago.

That’s a policy that’s going to cause them problems now as they’ll take stick for going at such a late stage, to somewhere so remote and days after Albert of Monaco had been tested positive so he knew he’d been in contact with someone with it

As a longer time lurker, I’ve de-lurked to share a thought - it’s about privilege & it going hand in hand with advantages people get purely down to birth. It is undoubtedly true that the royal family get a lot of preferential treatment compared to nearly all other Brits and people in other commonwealth countries, purely down to happenstance of birth or marrying in. However this disparity plays out throughout the world... being born in Britain to parents doing ok gave me a wealth of privilege compared to many, many people around the world. I see that and do contribute via charities etc as the royal family also do but I don’t often get people suggesting to me that I give up my way of life so I can be equal with other people in worse situations around the world who would, I’m sure, dearly love to have had what I was born with.

I’m too tired and feeling under the weather to phrase that as well as I’d like but I hope the gist of what I’m getting at comes across.

I am sorry to hear Prince Charles has tested positive and I do hope he is only mildly unwell and gets better soon along with hoping everyone suffering gets the care they need. We will owe an unpayable debt and our eternal gratitude to the many, many people working on the front line of this pandemic.

Ps the font change of WHO’s statement whilst using their logo has irritated me way more than I think it should...it just smacks of making something impacting others too all about them...probably because it reminds me of when my Mother went on and on to me about how my seriously ill health was oh so difficult for her!

I’m actually questioning now if perhaps he was moved partly because he had symptoms.

If he was at Clarence House and then it was announced he was seriously ill then you’d get the gatherers gathering.

No-one is going to be gathering at Balmoral

Very well put yolo but I also concur with MissEliza. The concern for someone does not preclude concern for the another.

lyralalala

Exactly.

I would be prioritising anti-body testing. It's far more important to establish who has had it and is now immune, imo.

@TimeLady I would like to see that happening. It will help get the country going again.

I would be prioritising anti-body testing. It's far more important to establish who has had it and is now immune, imo.

I'd agree, if you could rely on everyone with immunity not to get careless and continue spreading the virus to those who aren't so lucky. I think it's a test that carries its own risks, sadly.

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Ps the font change of WHO’s statement whilst using their logo has irritated me way more than I think it should...it just smacks of making something impacting others too all about them...

Not just the font change and use of their logo @Zogtastic but actually modifying their advice given by WHO. I discovered that by doing a little bit of digging (investigative journalism? ). I find the audacity of Sussex Royal doing that shocking, and the actual act irresponsible. I’m complaining about it.

Sorry meant to add: Zogtastic I agree with your first point by the way, which is very well made.

I don't understand why they modified the WHO's advice, and misleadingly presented it as verbatim. It's staggeringly dangerous when they have so many followers.

I suspect that Charles and Camilla were chauffeur driven up to Scotland in different cars so they won’t have been in contact with anyone else. I think the only time Charles’s has ever been anywhere near a motorway service station is when he officially opened Gloucester Services.

I think the Sussexes imagine that they are gifted and empathetic communicators so anything they say would be superior to someone else's version. Clearly they have had moments of succeeding in this respect, but I think there are also plenty of occasions when some input from a detached and ruthless editor would have helped.

It's World Theatre Day on Friday. An ideal occasion for Meghan as patron of the National Theatre to highlight the plight of many theatres closed by coronavirus and encourage people to support them through this difficult time. I wonder if she can rise to that challenge?