Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan? Thread 3

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new thread hope Dave comes back

phoenixrose I am not here to "spice things up because they're banal."

If that has been the result of my posting, it was not my intention.

I have seen too many threads about MM and PH get deleted on very flimsy and specious grounds. There has to be a balance, surely?

Oh crumbs.

Have you seen what happens when you type Archewellfoundation into your browser?

I have seen too many threads about MM and PH get deleted on very flimsy and specious grounds. There has to be a balance, surely?

I don’t understand. Are you saying that this one hasn’t been shut down because we’re being positive?

I don’t get this notion that Meghan should be close to her wider family especially on her father’s side. Some of these people have been cruel to her in the press and that’s just disgusting. Some of them are not even close to each other and were not even close to her before she became Harry’s wife. Why should she be close to toxic cruel family members.

Again where did Meghan or even Doria say they were not close when she was growing up. I know there has been a cruel rumour circulating about Doria in the Internet for ages , even the press realise that this rumour is just crap . Maybe Meghan speaks to her extended family on her mother’s side and they don’t run to the media unlike her father, half brother and half sister. Doria has never given an interview about Meghan and that’s a good thing. I read that Meghan was raised by BOTH her mother and father. She spent time with both of them like many many children who come from separated and divorced parents.

I don’t even believe those who claim that M tore Harry away from his family. He is a grown up man who can make his own decisions and I for one don’t believe Meghan is a witch who has him under her spell. For all we know H could be talking to his brother and father everyday, but unlike Thomas they are not going to run to the press to spill the beans. Many couples from different countries often live in either country at one point in their marriage.

Have you seen what happens when you type Archewellfoundation into your browser?

Horrible.

And now they're under the radar somewhat, the people that hate them are still scrabbling around trying to find a way of criticising them and then wonder why they fled the country?

This thread was a welcome antidote but hey ho if it carries on like this, I'm off. To do my grouting probably.

So agree with your last para chriss. I think Harry was the instigator of leaving, not his femme fatale wife.

Amazes me that Thomas is defended so much for being so shit to his daughter. I mean which decent parent says stuff like it’s time for daddy to be paid? Yuck!. Fact that he continually goes on to be interviewed by someone like Piers Morgan ( a known Meghan billy) says it all.

Yet her mother is often bashed in certain corners for stuff that’s never even happened. Roles reversed I wonder if those who defend Thomas’s disgusting behaviour would have defended Doria. If I were Meghan I wouldn’t let him meet my child , as he hasn’t shown an ability to stay away from the tabloids. Yet she is constantly blamed , and asked to let poor granddad meet Archie. Has Thomas met any of his numerous grandchildren btw

What’s Doria been “bashed” for? I thought she was the one person who’d come out of this universally well regarded. She never speaks publicly or does anything she could be criticised for.

Archewell? REALLY? Come off it. It's a shit name and a shit concept. But because MM dreamed it up you are all defending it.

You all? Where? Little was said about it in this thread compared to everything else pointed out.

There isn’t a lot of information to necessarily go on to to draw a conclusion for me so I choose to wait and see instead of jumping to conclusions about something that hasn’t even been completed. From the information I have read, I’m interested to find out more.

www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/04/prince-harry-meghan-markle-archewell

www.forbes.com/sites/guymartin/2020/04/07/prince-harrys-dilemma-the-new-harry-and-meghan-charitable-foundation-will-be-called-archewell-but-whats-he-actually-going-to-do/

VF is left-leaning and Forbes is right-leaning which is obvious by its writing.

Have you seen what happens when you type Archewellfoundation into your browser?

Oh yeah, setting it up to link to the song Gold Digger on YouTube is like totes hilaire and not at all sexist

I, too, am interested to find out more about the much-beleaguered Archewell.

I fear it will fail before it begins, due to its very unfortunate name.

How does one pronounce it, anyway? Any guesses?

I must say it's a little odd to name a "foundation" after a child you wish to protect from the public eye.

Does anyone think it's odd though that no extended family were at the wedding? My mum has three sisters and two brothers, all of them and their children were at my wedding, because they're aunts, uncles and cousins. Same on dh's side. Didn't her dad's brother facilitate her first job? She must have been close to her extended family growing up, then has a huge wedding and doesn't invite them. Honestly, isn't that odd? I don't know anyone that has done that.

TheMustressMhor I think the foundation was named first (in 2018), then Archie was named after the foundation. But I've only read it on another thread here, so I'm not sure. (I don't normally follow any links on any of the threads).

EthelMayFergus the lack of family at the wedding was utterly bizarre.

And the confusion over whether or not Thomas Markle would be there was embarrassing.

I still cannot understand why Harry has never met his wife's father.It seems like a basic courtesy.

Oh I see.

They named their child after the foundation.

That makes sense. Not.

I must say it's a little odd to name a "foundation" after a child you wish to protect from the public eye.

The origin of the name, arche, from the Greek, meaning “course of action.”

Does anyone think it's odd though that no extended family were at the wedding?

Let’s see going to a world publicised wedding where I will be judged by absolute strangers and any misstep I make can be used against me and/or said family member and be plastered all over newspapers worldwide and social media and possibly turned into a meme to live on the internet forever.

Would you under those circumstances? If so, you’re braver than me.

*bully

phoenix you're surely not suggesting that MM's extended family were, in fact, invited to the wedding, and decided, en masse, not to attend for the reasons you state?

And phoenix - giving the derivation of a name does not explain why people would use it, either for a foundation or a child.

EthelMayFergus so the Archewell Foundation was set up in 2018.

Is that what you're saying? If so, why did MM and PH set up SussexRoyal? They would not have needed it if they already had Archewell.

None of this makes sense.

Yes, I would, and I'm not particularly brave. But I'm intelligent enough to realise that not inviting them would bring even worse scrutiny. And I would simply want all the people I love to be a part my day, I wouldn't have been able to enjoy it without them.

Yes, apparently the foundation was registered before MM's pregnancy was announced in 2018. (But, like I say, I saw that on another thread and I didn't follow the link - I think it was one of today's posts.)

I'm amused at the sheer naivety of believing that family relationships between Harry & Meghan and the Windsors are unaffected by their "stepping down, not abdicating completely."

So why did they set up SussexRoyal, if they had already set up Archewell?

I am so confused now.

Angelina I quite agree. The relationships between family members (on all sides) will be (adversely) affected by all this. It would be disingenuous to suppose otherwise.

Meghan has her reasons for not inviting her extended family, maybe they are not close and haven’t been been for years. Many many families are not close and that doesn’t mean anything. Yet the fact that only Meghan’s mother was present at the wedding is often used to bash her and used as some sort of proof that she is indeed deserves to be be called all sorts of names.

Like one said above if this thread goes the other way will have hide it. Yea yea I know I’m insignificant in the grand scheme of things🤷‍♂️. I’m not fawning over these two, but it was nice to read positive stuff about them.

chrisseldeh what reasons did Meghan have for not inviting her extended family to her wedding?