Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan? Thread 3

[Samcro]

new thread hope Dave comes back

I’m neutral about both and don’t hold them on a pedestal but the incessant negativity towards both around some twitter threads , dm columns etc just doesn’t interest me. Hence why I don’t bother much with them.

I agree. I find it ridiculous how many people enjoy/love to bash them and then say they deserve it knowing they themselves are nowhere near perfect in the slightest. I can’t imagine having that much ugliness in my heart to get off on spewing such bile about someone I don’t know. I still don’t see anything that they have done that was so bad to receive such ridicule. I’ve read some of the post on other threads and it’s disgusting. I’ve actually left them because they’re so nasty. What annoys me most is the obvious bias against them as a couple compared to W&K and the constant negativity against Meghan when she has done little to deserve it.

Harry and Meghan are not perfect neither is William and Kate. But somehow Meghan receives so much bashing, I get that there people out there who really don’t like her but god this woman gets hammered.

I know celebrities or public figures have to have a thick skin but I know I couldn’t manage in such situations. But then I’m not Meghan , and never married a Prince so what do I know.

But then I’m not Meghan , and never married a Prince so what do I know.

No one deserves or should expect that amount of ridicule and nastiness because they married a Prince. Most of the things people have bashed her for are things most have little proof or knowledge that it’s true or are outright lies made up by the British media such as the DM and the Sun. I think they expected her to be a stereotypical American Hollywood actress with loads of drama and such, but since she wasn’t and there were very little skeletons in her closet they had to build mountain out of molehills. If you removed Harry being a Prince many of those moaning would be telling her to LTB if he had stood back and done nothing while this was all going on.

@phenixrosehere lol I agree that nobody deserves such ridicule. I know some us knew the bashing from the British tabloids was a long time coming when we read the headlines like ‘Straight out of Compton’.

I mean Meghan grew up in LA to a middle class background but somehow there was headlines of her being from the ‘hood’ . Nothing wiring with the hood as some of our parents grew up in the hood, but it was clear that a narrative was being built by the tabloids. Once we got to rumours about about her being demanding making people cry etc, it was clear that she was never going shake the mud.

I wish she had stayed tbh, but I know from experience dealing with daily micro aggressions is hard and hurtful so don’t blame her and not being able to deal with that on a national platform and being told off for daring to say struggling. I think once she had a child it became even harder.

*wrong

I agree. The way the media announced her engagement and kept repeating how her mother was descended from an African slave was the point for me. I knew it was only a matter of time before it became too much. The moment we heard more about everything Meghan was doing “wrong” vs Prince Andrew, William’s “affair”, or Brexit, it wasn’t going to end well. I don’t know any decent spouse that would stand by and allow such continued ridicule of their partner especially with the history Harry and the RF has.

I’m from the States and have lived in England for almost eight years. It took maybe two years for me to integrate here as a spouse. No one warned me about the level of micro aggression against Americans. It was very unexpected. Bad enough having to deal with micro aggression due to race in the States, but then to deal with that and being a foreigner was 🙄. It’s one of the downsides about living here in England. It’s more covert here than overt compared to the States.

Glad you finally settled here, UK is a beautiful country rich in history and on the whole very nice people with a wicked sense of humour. Lol I’m biased as it’s my home I know. But it has its ills and once you learn to navigate most of these it’s a really lovely place to live. I hope you like it.

One thing that I find scary is the Internet. I love and hate it as it can get so ugly sometimes but since this pandemic I’m constantly trying to look for positive stuff on the net. I dare not venture in some corners now. My anxiety gets the better of me , especially with stuff about the virus. Anyway not to derail from the thread, I must admit the Royal Family is a fascinating institution , I have found myself even reading about European Royals like Spanish and Swedish royals and even African Royals( Eswatini) . Nice distraction especially now.

I do love it here though and no plans to move back to the States any time soon. More likely to move to another country before the States. Definitely feel more at home here than there (having children tends to add to it 😉)

I grew up learning about the British Royalty and do find it fascinating. I love history and the U.K. is definitely the place to be for it. I am looking forward to hearing the Queen’s speech on Sunday.

I do think that Harry and Meghan may have an easier time in LA then they did here and will be able to be more financially independent like they wanted since the US isn’t a Commonwealth country. I wouldn’t be surprised if Meghan’s mum had been looking at houses for them while they were in Canada or they secretly went to LA and had a look around beforehand. The States also doesn’t have the leeway when it comes to printing stories as the British media does. Celebrities in the States aren’t afraid to issue libel and slander lawsuits against media there.

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yoloPenguinsEatfish

Megz veil was embroidered with symbols of the Commonwealth. Rather ironic now.

How very true. Somehow that didn’t chime well with me from the start.

• Megz veil was embroidered with symbols of the Commonwealth. Rather ironic now.

How very true. Somehow that didn’t chime well with me from the start.*

I didn’t see an issue with it. Not sure how that can be construed as a bad thing. Besides, doubt either her or Harry expected it to come to them stepping down as senior royals later.

Well, they got married expecting/hoping for a big Commonwealth role, which would have suited them right down to the ground I think.

But I cant see that happening now, given that half in half out has been taken off the table.

Which was entirely down to them rushing into deeper water than they can cope with IMHO.

I didn’t see an issue with it. Not sure how that can be construed as a bad thing.

Of course it wasn’t “bad” but it sure as hell was presumptuous. (If the irony is lost on you, that’s fine; it certainly isn’t lost on others.)

it was lovely as was the wedding. yes things have changed now, but that doesn't mean that was bad. think some people will pick on anything. tragic really.

I thought her veil was wonderful and an act of genius. It symbolised inclusion.

I hope they get the privacy they so obviously crave.

And the privacy they deserve.

I actually don’t see how it was wrong or ironic that Meghan’s veil was embroidered with symbols of the commonwealth. Must everything with this woman be picked apart so much and be seen as horrible?

She married Harry and moved to the UK, immersed herself in her role and worked as all the royals did. She was constantly criticised for smiling too much, being smug, holding her bump too much, crossing her legs etc etc. Still she stuck it out until she couldn’t take it anymore and they left. People who constantly pick on Meghan often swear that they don’t hate her, yet they follow and criticise every single thing she does and pick negative often horrible pieces written about her to support that she is not worthy of consideration as a human being. How is that fair or right?. Privileged or not, she is still a person for god sakes. The same people who constantly assail her never ever would do the same to Kate, what’s the difference between the two women by the way. Why is one seen as a saint, defended for every single thing and another dehumanised is such a way.

Like I said Meghan is not perfect, it’s okay not to like her and criticise her. But it’s unfair and unkind to pick her apart for every single thing that others in the RF get away with.

I can't remember what Kate's veil had embroidered on it...

Doesn’t matter what Kate’s veil was embroidered in. The fact is she wouldn’t be constantly criticised in these corners for much. It’s clear that Meghan will be criticised and sneered at for almost anything. Heck I wouldn’t even like it if Kate was treated horribly like Meghan.

At the end of the day those who clearly do not like Meghan for whatever reason will always find something negative in anything has done/ does. She is fair game after all.

Anchors!

No, not rhyming slang - that's one of the motifs Sarah wanted embroidered on her train (according to Good Housekeeping magazine). Along with helicopters and teddy bears.
She got the anchors.

The fact is she wouldn’t be constantly criticised in these corners for much

I am happy to criticise Kate, and any of them. My (limited) interest in all of them extends only to how much they can do for us. Meghan and Harry said we are toxic and then buggered off. The others are still here doing ‘things’ for the country and citizens. That’s the sole difference.

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yoloPenguinsEatfish

I can't remember what Kate's veil had embroidered on it...

Oh well I don’t remember when Harry, and especially Meghan said the British public were toxic. I remember reading that they couldn’t cope with the intense media scrutiny that even the queen in her statement acknowledged that was a factor and supported them.

Some of that media scrutiny has been discussed on this thread, especially stuff that was clearly racist and would not have been written about any other member of the RF. I know it’s can be unpopular especially on RF threads to acknowledge that Meghan shouldn’t have to bear the brunt of that intense unfair scrutiny. And I’m glad like the thread title says there are people who are genuinely happy that both Harry and Meghan are happy to have left a situation that was detrimental to their family.

And I’m glad like the thread title says there are people who are genuinely happy that both Harry and Meghan are happy to have left a situation that was detrimental to their family

Completely agree. If there was no taxpayer contribution, then I wouldn’t be even reading about them just like I don’t read about other families who are just getting on with life.

Yes, the thing is, they arent and can never be "just like us". Basically because we pay for them either directly or indirectly. Personally I'm not happy to pay for them to swan around the world with the massive security bill that incurs, plus the detriment they will bring to the RF, a 1000 year old institution.

I'm very happy for them to happy though, of course - just not on the taxpayers' dime.

I don’t profess to know much about how their security costs are funded. From reading some stuff in the media and on some threads I get that this is a very serious and often heated topic as people don’t want taxpayers to fund them.

It was announced that they were covering/arranging security costs themselves , that’s good enough for me. May not be good enough for some and that’s okay.