Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan? Thread 3

[Samcro]

new thread hope Dave comes back

Oohhhhhhhhh

I thought you meant that Charles was a member of the KKK and that Harry would be put in prison 🤦‍♀️

@Mummy195 see I think it would be in their best interest to use/ hire their own security personnel. I don’t think the issue of security is going to die down as people feel strongly about it. And i feel the clean break is to do away with the normal taxpayer security arrangements.

I wish them well, I genuinely do. But this one issue is always going to follow them, even if people admit they deserve protection. Heck even Donald trump randomly just tweeted about it now which I thought was weird as he should have more important things to worry or tweet about.

Chris

The Royal Rota reporters like Lizzie Robinson, Chris Sharp etc. have now reported that security will be privately funded.

I totally agree with you, that the security thing was always going to be the stick to beat them with. Hopefully from the 31st onwards, ppl will stop thinking they have some kind of ownership over them.

They can then carry on with their lives as and how they please.

i doubt if normal folks are even thinking much about them, in the big scheme of things 2 ex working royals are not that important.
its odd I saw some where that a itv show had done a poll, which no surprise went in favour of the haters.
no one asked me, or most likely anyone on mn or people we know in rl.
so a skewed poll.

I think there is always going to be interest in them, even people who genuinely don’t like them are interested in what they are doing. My interest in them two solely rests with what they can do or what are they going to do to make a difference. It seems like they are really keen to make a difference in the ‘ global community’ and I’m curious as to what this means. I have been following Harry’s work with Sentebale for years and it’s absolutely phenomenal. I know people involved in the charity who speak highly of him. Even his work with invictus is really impressive. If he can build on these and continue to work with charities from the grassroots then I believe that what’s really going to make him happy and will be successful in the long run.

Meghan I don’t know much about her charity background and I don’t doubt that she can work hard. She did well with the the grenfell kitchen & cookbook etc . It’s not her fault that sometimes she overshadows the causes she is promoting, I don’t think it’s her personality as people who work with her seems to genuinely like her. I don’t know, just seems like as soon as newspapers print Meghan.....people tend to flock and dissect everything about her as a person and not really the content of whatever is written about. I have never seen anything like it, even and I don’t know if it’s going to stop. I think she has to find a way to promote her causes in a way that those causes can receive maximum benefit without her getting dragged in it.I know there are many celebrities and rich people who do this really well.

I don’t think Harry and Meghan are saints, they have made mistakes and have been hypocrites at times. As a biracial woman with biracial children it was certainly nice to have Meghan in the royal family . People in my family who never paid much attention to the RF suddenly did when Megan came into scene and i remember my own mum so stunned and happy to see the ‘black church ‘in a royal wedding😂. But I accept that she is her own person and her happiness and family first.The exit could have been handled better, and some statements from them could have been worded better. What’s done is done , they are out and have an opportunity to make a difference on their terms, i just hope they don’t bite more than they can chew in the beginning. Steady does it

"A skewed poll?" Because they didn't ask you?

Do you not understand how polls work?

I have never seen anything like it,
Perhaps you're not old enough to have seen the absolute mauling Sarah Ferguson and Diana got in their early days.
Not to mention Camilla and yes, even Kate.

Great post chris.

Angelina they directly compared articles about Kate vs Meghan. So many more articles written about Meghan and % of negative articles much higher.

@Samcro I don’t think most people really care one way or the other. But I know that if the poll included anything to do with taxpayers funds it’s likely that those who feel strongly about public funds are more likely to vote however they feel.I made a mistake once of reading comments under their articles and I wondered if really people believed that Meghan especially was such a horrible person? . It was really disheartening as well after the announcement constantly reading about the ‘woke, race card, narcissist etc’ attributed to Meghan in an insulting way. Woke word especially should not be used as a slur as the BLM who brought it to the mainstream were using the word to fight for social justice causes as young black men were been gunned down needlessly by the police. I don’t even see how Meghan and Harry are woke tbh. some of us understand that race discussions in the UK can be traumatic. In America race can be discussed without a tv presenter like PM shouting at a POC for using the race card.

I don’t think Meghan left because of racism, I don’t even believe majority of people don’t like her because of her race , but it can’t be discounted that there was bias in some reporting, or that she was dehumanised in some way especially pregnant. It was funny when PM defending Rebbeca Vardy for being attacked when pregnant, but somehow Meghan was fair game.So in some way I’m happy that she left. If I were her I would stay far away from British tabloids and others and live the rest of my life under the radar. But I guess they will probably need the media so they have to have thick skin.

@CallmeAngelina I don’t remember much about Fergie as was probably young who knows. Kate I remember very well the negative headlines but I don’t remember them be so viscous like Meghan , the dog whistles, constant negative headlines when pregnant. I didn’t like the names Kate was called for being in a long term relationship with William or how her mother especially was called names etc .

It doesn’t even make it fair that women in the royal family can be attacked so much yet men like Prince Andrew get a pass. It took a long time for Andrew’s scandal to even come to the forefront yet the Meghan headlines or rivalry stories we’re constantly making it to the news. What makes Meghan so special? Isn’t Andrew’s associations with a known paedophile more abhorrent?.

Oh one last thing I believe Meghan was welcomed by the RF and could have really fostered relationships especially with Kate and Camilla or the York girls on how to navigate the media or the royal life. I may be totally wrong but I believe she relied more on outside advice and people, there is a difference between being a celebrity and member of the RF. Kate seems like such a nice down to earth person and I believe would have really been a good mentor to newcomer Meghan.

I remember Sarah Ferguson distinctly. I'm old . The Press loved her, but then turned against her. However, she did not help herself but maybe ppl would say that about Meghan.
And at one point Fergie was taking the piss going off with a Texan financial adviser, and her toes being sucked whilst next to a swimming pool with the Beatrice and Eugenie there (and only seperated from Andrew, not divorced)

I don't think Meghan has behaved quite so badly...

As for Andrew, he's always been an entitled twat.

Woke word especially should not be used as a slur as the BLM who brought it to the mainstream were using the word to fight for social justice causes as young black men were been gunned down needlessly by the police.

This x 100. It's really depressing how "woke" has been co-opted by the right to use as an insult.

Oh my, Roussette = admitting you're old!

Me too. I remember Sarah and Andrew's wedding, and thinking that her wedding dress was lovelier than Diana's.

Irrelevant musings. Wedding dresses are very personal.

Over the past couple of years I have read some of the dreadful stuff which has been written about Meghan online. Really, really appalling nastiness.

Nobody deserves that. Nobody.

@Roussette

Interesting about how Fergie was initially received and the subsequent fallout. Will definitely try to read more about her .

I remember Sarah and Andrew's wedding, and thinking that her wedding dress was lovelier than Diana's
Yes! Sarah's had glittery bits on! Diana's just looked creased!

I was married same year as Sarah & Andrew, and my dress was very Diana. It was huge! I loved it at the time, I've still got it preserved upstairs, it was very beautiful but looks so so dated now...

i remember both weddings and Annes. I was a fan of sarahs as she seemed so "normal" sad that it all went pearshape.
she got a lot of bad press, but nothing compared to what M has had. maybe because back then there was no social media. tbh i have never seen such a witch hunt like the one with M.
the funny thing is she hasn't done anything really bad. it seems like people just want to blame the woman. I think H would have left anyway. seeing your wife and child ripped apart must be awful and the lack of public support form W&K has been really telling.

I agree. I think there has been a build up of resentment about the RF... the privilege, the money, the entitlement (Andrew) and it has spilled over into scapegoat territory with MM being the one to castigate about every little thing.

It's all dressed up with a new Fan Club for Queen, W&K etc, but deep down I don't think a lot of the haters all over the internet care a damn about the RF, but pretending to feel sorry for W&K, and Q, is yet another way to have a pop at MM.

(Poor Q having this happen to her and her being old, poor W&K and all that extra work they have to do and how stoically they are bearing the extra burden blah blah)

I agree that Harry seems to be the one who really wanted to leave much more than Meghan.I also don’t think they would ever come to the UK to live, it would just defeat the purpose of them leaving in the first place.

Listening to Harry’s tape with those Russians it seemed like he was really sure about leaving and the one who championed it the most.

i don't get why people think the "oh poor W&K Left to carry the burden" type thinking. its their job(and not a hard one) i used to quite like them but not sure now. they remind me to much of my SIL and the way she acts.(W&K)

@samcro

Lol I must admit I have a soft spot for Kate And I really think it’s a shame that people pit her against Meghan. I believe both have their strengths and weaknesses and there was room for both in the RF. I mean in future George and Louis will have wives/husbands and it would bea shame for their spouses to be pitted against each other.

I just don’t subscribe to Kate= good & Meghan = bad. They are both human, they are flawed like the rest of us. They are both privileged in so many but like I said both human. If it can be believed that W& K found it hard when Harry & M announced they were leaving why can’t it also be believed that the intense at times biased scrutiny towards H & M was hurtful or even destructive for them as human? . They are all human including the queen.

😂 went overboard with HUMAN there.

Kate is good at what she does. she seems nice, you right about pitting them against each other, reminds me of when I was young and you could only be a donny fan or a david fan......never both(showing age)

I just read their Instagram statement and I quite like the message. We are living in uncertain and scary times, everything has changed so quickly. My husband is a doctor and I cried real tears yesterday when reading about a hospital consultant who passed away from corona virus.

Everyday he goes to work I’m hit with massive anxiety attack, we have twins with autism and my worst fear in the world is them/ us catching the virus as they wouldn’t even understand how to cooperate should they need hospital care. Or if my husband or myself gets sick they really wouldn’t understand and the thought sends shivers down my spine. I haven’t really slept in forever as everyone is on edge. Sigh , this pandemic ..

Anyway I really wish H & M all the best and really looking forward to hear more about their next chapter

chrisseldah1
How worrying for you and what a fantastic job your DH is doing