Harry and Meghan and the intricacies of the Monarchy

[PelicanPie]

Here's a follow on to the last thread, which was really enjoyable.

And Catherine Bennett should wise you.

That’s a good point 7Penguins - she can skip the platitudes when she has to deal with the consequences of their actions. I bet William doesn’t hold back and there aren’t going to be that many people he can talk to about how hurt he feels.

I’m afraid I absolutely believe the blind about the rumour being spread by MM / one of her acolytes. Kate has done her smiley duty to death. Sod them!

wise up

I am saving reading the MoS til I've had . That Catherine Bennett article is very unlikely reading for the Grauniad.

I dont think smiling and waving madly in church is particularly refined behaviour - a smile, a nod, an acceptance that you are in a spiritual place that matters to some people rather than gurning madly everywhere.

Vile journalism from the Guardian as usual. That rag gets more like the Mail in reverse with every passing day - no wonder they've constantly got the begging bowl out

And I know I've said this so many times, but whatever we think of W&K's reactions, the central point is that the RF will prioritise their own existence above all else so a cool response from core members is hardly surprising. In any case H&M have already had various supportive comments from the Queen - did they really expect to be fawned over any further when they've kicked the family in the teeth?

CanIHaveAPenguin just noticed your post about the difficult decisions you're having to make and wanted to say stay safe and well

I dont think smiling and waving madly in church is particularly refined behaviour

You've clearly never met my cousin, Yolo ... at my mum's funeral, receiving no more response to her mad waving than a warm smile, she carried on like someone watching their toddler on a funfair ride

"Yoo hoo!!", "Over here, Puzzled!!", "Over HERE!!!!"

LittleBearPad
I also think that there are many parallels between the Queen Mother's feeling for the Duchess of Windsor and the feelings Kate may have for Meghan.

Both woman have seen their DH have a massive amount of work and responsibility dumped on their shoulders, from siblings who they might have expected to be part of the team.

I think anyone messes with Kate's family at their peril.

Anyone remember the disapproval heaped on the Duchess of York for her actions when walking down the aisle. Smiling and gurning at the congregation

puzzled... she sounds like a complete nightmare. Mind you, my own DB only stayed for 30 mins at DM's wake, funerals sometimes dont bring out the best in people. Nowt so queer as folks etc.

funerals sometimes dont bring out the best in people

Ain't that the truth

I know this sounds really oldfashioned, but I'm 58 so have earned the right! I think there are places where smiling and waving madly is appropriate, and others where they simply arent. Church is one of them for me, even though I am not religious, I respect that other people are. And I do find churches to be very spiritual, calming places, and that should affect one's behaviour in them. IMO of course.

I’m afraid I absolutely believe the blind about the rumour being spread by MM / one of her acolytes. Kate has done her smiley duty to death. Sod them!

Which one is that?

Can't face reading that article just based on what people have said here.
I am NC (my choice) from certain family members. Even being in the same building would be a deal breaker for me. I don't see why the onus is on W&K to make the Sussexes feel welcome.

I am less pessimistic for H in the short term. It appears that they are very wrapped up in each other and their "Little Family". They seem happy together, they live a charmed life with everything paid for, no work they don't want to do, they have friends, security, I can't see what their life lacks at the moment other than purpose.

It's a shallow existence but I don't see either of them as having great depth. It could be exactly what they want.

for The Penguin Formerly Known As Tiara.

Nanamilly
I think it is the one about William having an affair with Rose Hanbury (?) - which I cannot believe for a minute.

Apparently Meghan saw Giles Coren in Paris (I think) and when he came back he posted about the rumour of an affair, although he deleted the post fairly quickly. I understand that this is where the gossip started.

If William has had an affair with anyone, Kate is a far better actress than Meghan could ever hope to be! IMO

Would somebody pleeeease post what the Blind item was from a few pages back? I didn't see it! Thanks.

Also, I wonder if they regret their "go independent" decision now. The world is a very scary place right now. I'd much rather to be in the comfort of being surrounded by a close knit family right now than being alone on an island in a country away from family.

I don’t know which blind you mean Coconutpie without scrolling back pages. Was there not a link or info you could google to find it?

Practically all of the blinds posted here though seem to come from the website Blind Gossip. If you scroll through the back catalogue there you’ll find them. Worth checking the site now and then for updates if you’re interested in future blinds about the royals!

Dandy, it was the one where they were posting about things that MM was allegedly behind, starting rumours, etc and quite a few posters said that the Blind article was shocking and they could understand W&K keeping their distance from them.

Are yes that was from Blind Gossip. It shouldn’t be too far back on the website if you look on there.

I've just read the Catherine Bennett article.

It is extraordinarily simplistic and doesn't give any benefit of the doubt that there was a good reason.

Masks work both ways. Meghan was caught on camera telling Harry to smile as they walked towards the Abbey. It doesn't necessarily mean she is more emotionally literate than Kate (although she of course may be - I don't know, and neither does Catherine B unless she's met them both, which she doesn't say she has). But it does mean she's more PR-literate.

The article rather scores an own goal with this statement:

It’s not as if Meghan taught Kate’s kids to Nazi salute.

No, that's more likely to be Harry, who after all did once appear at a party and thereafter in photos in the newspapers dressed as a Nazi officer.

Maybe William and Kate didn't want to pretend that all was well, when practically the whole world knows it's not!

What did Ma Bennett expect Kate to do? Push aside the chairs (as MM did when exiting) and embrace Harry and Meghan?

She said hello. What more was expected?

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I'd seen that blind.

What do they mean by Actress managed to take another swipe at SIL as she was walking out the door.