Harry and Meghan and the intricacies of the Monarchy

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Here's a follow on to the last thread, which was really enjoyable.

Thank you 7Pengins It is a tough decision. I stopped taking them on Thursday & the pain is already kicking in. But covid may not see me survive If I’m still on my meds (no one seems to know) so it’s the better of the 2 options for now!!

Ooh nasty article derxa

CanIhaveAPenguinPlease, I really feel for you. Hope you will manage ok. These are awful, horrid times .

Indeed hippo Thank you will keep me going

It really is a nasty article. I skimmed it as the bile throughout was too unpleasant to spend much time on.

I got a hot top to put Lemons, sliced in the freezer for the G&Ts. I think I will try to get some today, maybe worth trying for you?

Just looked at the Guardian piece. Extremely nasty but Catherine Bennett looks like a discontented, sour-faced cow.

Oh dear. That really is a horrible piece of writing.
I've been musing over what Harry and Meghan must be feeling at the moment, and particularly the situation Harry is in. The reality of what they've done is I suspect really sinking in. They can't start a Foundation because apparently there are already too many out there doing the same sorts of things, and without the Sussex brand, they have nothing special to offer. Harry has made himself look ridiculously naive and disconnected from reality with that prankster telephone call. The Invictus Games will be postponed, along with the Marathon, so he has no reason to return to the UK for 'work'. He's slagged off his family , so won't be flavour of the month at the wedding in May, if they go.

His whole life he has been protected and supported. He's never had to worry about making his own living or managing his own finances. He's been surrounded by a close band of friends whom he has mostly known all his life who don't talk about him and share the same interests. They've seen him through thick and thin and understand what he went through in his younger years. Many of them are in the same social circles and know his exes. His previous advisors who were trusted and experienced are no longer in the picture.
He has fallen out with his brother, who is the only person in the world who he can really trust, and his previous close relationship with Kate seems damaged beyond repair. He doesn't see his nephews and niece and seems to have fallen out with his father too.
Now he's on and island, miles from home with no real friends or family to turn to, at least in person. All the people they must be seeing are M's friends, and they surely don't have much in common.
No wonder Harry took that phone call, he must have been bored out of his mind and desperate to talk.
I suspect M might have a very bored, miserable and increasingly paranoid husband to deal with now. She is going to have to tout for work and try and keep things on an even keel. I already suspect she is regretting what they have done.

Their next move looks like it will involve going to LA to live. It's about as far from being a wildlife guide in Africa as is possible. Harry is going to be the animal on show, and he'll be living in a gilded cage. So much for freedom.

Beatrice’s wedding may well have to be postponed, don’t you think? We are heading towards peak Coronavirus late May to late June apparently. Large gatherings will likely be banned. International travel stopped.

Either they’ll postpone the whole thing or get married very quietly and have the party at a later date.

Apparently the groom's family come from Lombardy which is one of the worst affected areas, and they may not be able to fly in if the virus continues at the same levels. I would think they need to make a decision pretty soon.

Poor Beatrice and to all those other brides as well. We have a family wedding in Cyprus in a couple of months & it’s looking like I won’t go & dh may not be able to. They live in Cyprus so not a destination wedding.

puzzled that penguin video is hilarious!! Proper LOL.

yola hope there are no more unexpected presents from the dog this morning.

canihaveapenguin. Very tough decision. My DM has RA so it’s not a decision to take lightly.

What on earth has got into Catherine Bennett?!

That’s the most vitriol I’ve read about any of them.

Apparently the groom's family come from Lombardy

I had the impression that Edo was estranged from his Italian father and most of the paternal family. Maybe not.

Yes yes to the spring and summer brides.

I wonder if Catherine Bennett is projecting in that article as she used to be married to a posh bloke. Maybe she felt excluded herself and this is her own personal revenge. I am imagining this scenario though, so I might be wrong!

Harry is going to be the animal on show ... living in a gilded cage. So much for freedom

There's also the point that American directness - which actually I very much admire - may lead to the sort of intrusive questions he never faced as a heavily protected RF member

I wonder how he'll view that if it happens ...

Poor Beatrice. One wonders what Jane Austen would have made of her predicament. All her trials and tribulations have the feel of some sort of cautionary tale of our times.
She should just scale back all the grand plans to the smallest of family weddings and a big party later on. Does she want to marry the man of her dreams (who dumped the new mother of his first born...) or have her moment of royal pomp and glory?

meh to Catherine Bennett’s article. She says how Kate can smile at Trump and Xi Jinping but can’t manage it for Harry and Meghan, but It is much easier to be professional to a stranger than it is to be all warm and cheerful to someone who has personally hurt you.
Not to mention, they both accommodated the flouncing from H&M and withdrew from the procession.

Also criticism for crouching down to speak to children! When will journalists realise - and this goes for Piers Morgan too - that by slagging off the unimportant - it weakens the whole of the rest of the argument, including any valid points.

If Harry can’t hold it together for an hour, why should Kate be the one held to account by the Guardian? He was just as stroppy looking!

Catherine Bennett. Just skimmed. Pfft.

Edo has invited his father to his wedding but he was much closer to his late stepfather.

I feel very sorry for Beatrice. Eugenie has such a lovely wedding - and this one, you have to hope she also gets both her grandparents there. She probably doesn’t mind about carriage rides but if you were a lower ranking princess you might quite like just one all to yourself on your wedding day.

Edo has invited his father to his wedding but he was much closer to his late stepfather.

Ah thank you. That clears that up.

If Harry can’t hold it together for an hour, why should Kate be the one held to account by the Guardian? He was just as stroppy looking!

Usual double standards. Surprising in a way given the oracle she writes for. Or maybe not. The acid was really dripping from her fangs.

The other thing I picked up from the Bennett article was the discussion that the Queen Mothers dislike/hate/whatever for the D&D of Windsor was understandable as it led to the death of George VI.

Given Kate and William are now going to have to significantly increase their workload and there will likely be much more scrutiny of them and the children, plus the whole family has been treated pretty shabbily by H&M - I don’t blame Kate for being less than effusive.

Sussex yes not an easy decision but other factors brought it home. I hope your mum will be ok. I’m waiting for guidance from my rheumatology department & hopefully that will be forthcoming soon.

Very true FiveTwo

I’ll say it again, the future Queen doesn’t need to placate these two.
It’s upsetting to some that the usually meek Kate is showing some backbone, but they better buck up, cause I think we’ll see a lot more assertiveness from Kate as the years go by.

Kate was hacked off that even that important and significant service for the Commonwealth was affected by their pathetic and needy behaviour. I blame her not one jot.