Harry & Meghan what they’ll do next - Thread 2

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Carrying on the conversation as the last thread finished mid-discussion.

It makes me angry, as the purported feminist sabotaged the highlighting of a very important women’s issue with an unofficial trip to an exhibition, with own photographer in tow, for copyright profit!

Totally agree with this.

Not just the highlighting of a women’s issue, but the highlighting of an entire festival dedicated to highlighting women’s issues and a festival which very much highlights intersectional feminism.

The italics above is mine for emphasis

@Oldbutstillgotit. Because they own the copyright to the photos - every time a newspaper / magazine / website publishes the photo, they pay money (A royalty) to the Sussexes.

It is quite extraordinary that Meghan, the feminist, felt her pictures were more important than a whole festival dedicated to women. She could have waited a week.

It makes me angry, as the purported feminist sabotaged the highlighting of a very important women’s issue with an unofficial trip to an exhibition, with own photographer in tow, for copyright profit!

This is a real stretch into the lets-see-what-else-we-can-come-up-with-to accuse-Meghan-of. There has been lots of media coverage of Camilla's speech. It's possible for people to consume more than one media outlet in a particular time frame and to focus on multiple news stories in that time frame.

There were other royals doing newsworthy things in the same time frame, as is usual. Were they distracting from Camilla's message?

Not really a stretch when RF teams deliberately schedule events to avoid appearance of competition.

Worfs interesting and accurate point regarding MM knowing her acting limitations so pitching for voice work instead. She knows how Hollywood works and the hierarchical nature of it so knowing this why was the hierarchical set up of the RF such a shock to her. She knows she is punching above her weight with the Hollywood A listers. You have to hand it to her for trying to break into the upper stratas of the the acting industry.

Interesting to see the Queen's remarks on the Commonwealth Day address about diversity making us stronger. She's quite right of course and it does, but it's hard not to think the remarks were tailored to current circumstances

There were other royals doing newsworthy things in the same time frame, as is usual. Were they distracting from Camilla's message?

What were they doing yesterday? I haven’t seen any other royal coverage?

@ LittleBearPad thank you , I did not know that . Second daft question - does this only apply to photos of the H, M and A ? Surely if they are going for a low key life , the photos will dry up ? If am I incredibly naive?

I think - and please correct me as I am not sure of my facts, that whatever you post on Instagram you give up copyright of. So whatever a paper takes from that should be royalty free.

@LittleBearPad my thoughts exactly. Apparently royal diaries had been planned so Camilla's speech would get the most focus and the Sussexes refused requests to delay releasing the pictures.
Roll on March 31st.

"I haven’t seen any other royal coverage?"

This past week the Countess of Wessex has toured two African countries with an emphasis on preventing violence against women and girls, and on female opportunities and education

She knows she is punching above her weight with the Hollywood A listers. You have to hand it to her for trying to break into the upper stratas of the the acting industry.

There was rumour of her being shortlisted as a possible contender for a Bond Movie during the time of her engagement. I have no idea how much truth there is in it.

Hollywood is not good to very beautiful actresses. With a few exceptions, being very beautiful does not equal longevity or oscar worthy roles in terms of acting career, it tends to pigeon hole and limit you. You have to be a character actress to get the sort of roles that will see you still being demanded in your 40s + I believe this is why British and Australian actresses are doing so well stateside even though many are in that age bracket. Excellent background in the theatre and non glamorous character roles in smaller Indie movies and series where you have to literally embody the role and carry the film.

I read once that Kate Winslet feared she was becoming the new pretty 'it' actress after Titanic so turned down several hollywood film roles as she wanted to be taken seriously as an actress.

Cameron Dias and Sharon Stone are sterling examples of how being beautiful gets you comedy and hot chick roles but very little else once the looks may 'fade'

M knows this so voiceovers is a wise and privileged move.

What were they doing yesterday? I haven’t seen any other royal coverage?

Yes Seneca please provide receipts. While you’re at it, please explain why Buckingham Palace told newspapers that arrangements had been organised so that royal reporters could focus on Camilla’s engagement at WOW.

But not yesterday @EdithWeston.

There was a plan for press coverage - and it got ignored.

@Oldbutstillgotit - yes for HM&A and any photo they have taken by their photographers.

As for going forward, they have two options - scarce but important ie pictures of Archie and DC2 if and when they are born which they can sell for millions and then collect royalties on - or loads at smaller values but large volumes. I assume they’ll go for the former.

I have to wonder just who is advising H&M

It doesn't matter if the intention was to outshine Camilla's speech, releasing the photos on that day was always going to be viewed as such

None of the royals who would knock Camilla back a few pages did anything of note so as not to take attention away. Sophie, rightly or wrongly, isn't going to take up Camilla's column inches. HMQ, Charles, William and Kate didn't compete with her as they knew they'd take away.

If you are in H&M's position and the mood of the country is a little bit against you then even if you think "that's ridiculous, we should all do what we want when we want" you'd think they'd take heed and not give the journalists the "Meghan upstages Camilla" and "H&M upset RF" headlines again

This past week the Countess of Wessex has toured two African countries with an emphasis on preventing violence against women and girls, and on female opportunities and education

I didn't see the coverage and I think overall the PR for the other RF members is extremely lack lustre and this ought to be addressed. But maybe there's something I'm missing.

I have to wonder just who is advising H&M

Does it matter who is advising them if they choose not to listen?

The releasing the photos - on their Instagram and by their photographer - comes down to this:
MM was asked not to release the photos on Friday. She released therm on a Friday.

I don’t really give a crap about overshadowing individuals. I do give a crap about knowingly deflecting attention from A WORLD LEADING FEMINIST FESTIVAL CELEBRATING IT’s TENTH ANNIVERSARY.

@CatherineOfAragonsPomegranate I don’t think MM is beautiful, but assuming that’s how she’s classified, I agree she’s now too old for the types of roles she’d be cast in.

I would be surprised if MM gets any significant roles. She just doesn’t have the acting chops. Voice work is probably the last place she should be.

If it were not fur this thread I would not have known about Camilla's DA work, between Coronavirus & H&M they have dominated headlines. Dry sad for such an important topic

Biggest “problem” for HaM going forward is how to stay relevant.
The proposed part time Royal role was perfect as it gave them regular global exposure.
Not quite sure when this oft quoted 12 month review period is over. Next January or March?
They are going to have to work pretty hard to keep in the press once the Royal gigs dry up at the end of the month.