Thread 18?

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I go away for the weekend and thread 17 disappears

March isn’t too far away now. Will we see their return for the commonwealth service?

Have they found a new home yet?

Will they make an appearance at Beatrice’s wedding?

Re the case against the MOS, Meg as the claimant can discontinue at any point and suffer the costs consequences (not much to the RF but who knows what M&H’s finances are like now).

The MOS wouldn’t pull out for the reasons stated by pp, they’ll recover whatever they spend on lawyers in clicks on the very many articles they’d share.

They’ll also not take her discontinuing without a follow up counter due to her alleging they misled their readers. That would result in the case being heard anyway.

I suspect the reason it’s all gone quiet is an old school royal style deal is being brokered. Eg let’s drop the case and you can have dibs on Archie’s first birthday pictures, future pregnancy announcement and a tell all interview - kind of thing.

7Worfs - maybe technically the RF could have said no but I think saying no probably wasn't an option - after all Charles never got to marry the one he loved and look how that all turned out. So I think maybe they had reservations but didn't feel they could say no without upsetting H. This is why I think the RF did more things to welcome M that they hadn't done before - Xmas at Sandringham etc. I think they did things for H's sake to not be seen as a reason for the marriage failing.

I had a look at their IG the other day - 95% bad comments, the odd good one that seemed to be from the US (the LORD is with you etc). I had a look last night and lots of complaints about comments being deleted and possibly even more negative comments. How could they have got their PR so, so wrong?

I'm sure they are mad as hell that the "Royal" bit has to be dropped. It does seem as others have observed that presenting a done deal would have the best chance of success. But I think they went too far with the website and even the not-very-interested person in the street could see it was a bit too much.

I think the bandanas/pencil cases are not the real problem - it is the hook ups with bankers etc. The Prince Andrew debacle must have woken up the Palace and made them super-alert to dubious characters and organisations calling in their free lunch.

^“But we don’t know who wrote it.”
Of course we don’t - but surely the prince and his wife had a vested interest in checking the wording? Or are they really that careless?^

@drina27 why the frick have you taken this line I wrote out of context and are implying it meant the opposite to what I intended?

For in the very next line I went on to say “It’s believable to me that Meghan instructed that particular part of the wording, with Harry’s approval”. You’ll also see I said I think she wrote it. So er yeah, I agree they have a vested interest in checking the wording.

There’s an irony in your post being about not checking and carelessness. See if you can find it.

I think M wrote the website stuff including the 'collaboration' bit. I'm shocked H gave it the go ahead if he saw it, given how rude it is to his grandmother, a queen, who he has always seemingly respected as a person and as the head of an institution. If he saw it and thought it fine, he's a buffoon. If he didn't check it then he's also a buffoon. If he didn't check it if I were his wife I would have said are you ok with this wording? I wouldn't have wanted him to be blindsided and I would have wanted him fully onboard and aware of everything.

The collaboration announcement is a stunning example of the ,'ask forgiveness not permission' approach completely backfiring.

Even if they had to release the website quickly as the Sun was going to print something they could have whittle it down to the bones and just said the details are still being ironed out.

I agree with you annielouise. Surely Harry wouldn't have written that (the wording is incredibly disrespectful), but likewise I can't believe he was happy for it to be published, knowing as he does, royal protocol and the close relationship he and HMQ appear to share.

The SussexRoyal thing had to be a no-go as soon as H&M stood back from being working royals. Anything they did under the Royal name would have reflected on HMQ. So it would actually limit H&M's options. No talks to big banks, no political endorsement / criticism, it may even limit which charitable causes they could support.

This gives H&M the freedom that they were wanting all along apparently (despite the hugely expensive wedding that suggested otherwise). A PP suggested MM should resurrect The Tig. That seems like a great starting point for the sort of Goopy-lifestyle stuff M is into. H (as I like to call him) could continue with Invictus and Sentabale. They both have huge potential to do good in the world. I hope they can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

not much to the RF but who knows what M&H’s finances are like now)

Guess there will be a call to Charles to put his hand in his pocket again. Doubt he is keen on the case going ahead either so might suit him to pay.

is an old school royal style deal is being brokered. Eg let’s drop the case and you can have dibs on Archie’s first birthday picture

This is probably the best way out, but will make them look like hypocrites again after the stance they've taken on the press (acknowledging that there has been some deeply hostile and racist coverage) . Having stated they would no longer cooperate with arrangements like the Royal Rota, and would choose their own outlets to work with, will make any agreement they reach with the Mail on Sunday look like a climbdown.

annielouise I agree that after the Charles and
Diana debacle, there would be no way the queen could be seen to be forcing any family member's hand re who they married.

I can see April fools day coming around and they launch their updated instagram and website with Sussex Royil

Liz will be like right that’s it, get me my purse I’m going over there!

Sussex Royil

The crafty way is to capitalise the E (who posted this first yesterday?)

• SussExRoyal - legal loophole sorted

Sussex Regal? Bit more wiggle room. That'd give the lawyers (who must be rubbing their hands with glee) something to chew on.

SusSex Royale

Dandy great name for the vag candle range

7Worfs lol, yes

I love yours (hat tip to @Grinchlywords)

I think in real terms though, @Butterymuffin may be on to something. Who knows maybe there’s someone from their camp reading this thinking bingo, we’ve got it.

SuxNotToBeRoyal

I can see why they needed the help of Stanford academics to help with this, it’s a tricky one!

ok that’s my favourite

I don't see how they can have any royale/regal names. They'll be slated, surely?

Now the royalty connection has clearly just become a springboard to market off rather than what H is/happens to be. It's undoubtedly being used as a means to make money. Just disgraceful.

Their people should definitely be reading this thread for tips and marketing ideas!

As a pp said - think it was @IrmaFayLear- it's the association with Goldman Sachs etc. that the public will dislike most. The SussEx Royale tea towel shop will probably get custom. They could announce that a percentage will go to their chosen causes to gild the lily a bit.

Would they be allowed Prince and Princess Harry Foundation? Or is any mention of royalty/their position not allowed?

Can't see Meghan liking being Princess Harry. As Denise Royle famously said 'I've got to keep my independence'. It wipes her out of the branding.

I think they might want to keep the second word as one beginning with R, in case some things are simply branded SR.

I’m thinking ‘SussexesRule’. Understated. Would work well in rulers.

Serious suggestions

Harry and Meghan Sussex Foundation, or

Sussex Family Foundation (which would cast them as a new unit and include Archie, plus any future second child)

They didn't take a title for Archie, after all