Thread 18?

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I go away for the weekend and thread 17 disappears

March isn’t too far away now. Will we see their return for the commonwealth service?

Have they found a new home yet?

Will they make an appearance at Beatrice’s wedding?

Exactly MissEliza re Balmoral/Scotland vs Canada, if hiking is the plan. Rude, much? I guess they just didnt want to be with the family.

I do think she was behind the advisors because she seems to have worked with them previously but I don't for a minute think this plan to be a half in half out Royal was just hers. Harry must have thought they'd agree. That they had it in the bag. "For many years" etc. I don't think they ever imagined they'd have to "rebrand."

Just settling in to read this thread I’ve only just found. Back later

That’s interesting about how PR works yolo

According to Blind Gossip (which has been bang on the nose on virtually all of its blinds about H & M in the last year or two), they didn't go to Balmoral because they weren't welcome, not because they didn't want to.

Makes me smile to read the 'many years' comments - haven't they only known each other for 3 years?! In reality, a relationship just get into it's stride.

Interesting Angelina. Which Blind was that? I thought I'd seen the relevant Blinds on previous threads...

aj that is why I think it's a lot to do with Harry. In HIS mind this is a dialogue he's been having for a while.

The thing about advisors is - when it comes to some roles like PR or lawyer, they’re essentially a paid hire. If you pay and instruct a lawyer to set something up then, as long as it isn’t illegal, they’ll probably do it. You’re the client, they’re carrying out your wishes.

So for all we know some of the US ‘advisors’ had advised against something but the client wanted to go ahead anyway. Or the client chose to hire role or companies precisely because they’d carry out the client’s wishes.

I am inclined to believe that William has shown some disapproval of MM to Harry, maybe worded as advice or caution, and there was an actual spat which sped up Megxit.

Or is he so petrified of losing her, that he'll go along with anything. And I'm sure she can be very persuasive - she's a clever woman.

It's impossible for any of us to have a perfect life, there's always going to be compromise. As long as he can live with his compromise (giving up family, friends and the life he has always known), maybe they'll be happy. Archie certainly puts a smile on his face!

aj I thought Harry's "after so many years of challenges" was a reference to his personal experience ,not his and Meghan's .

Dandy yep - I’m a consultant, sometimes for senior people in Canary Wharf. If they ask me to do something stupid, I explain to them why it’s a bad idea. If they ask me to do it anyway, I double check they fully understand, and then get a written construction. Then I do it.

Usually six months later I have to go back in and implement my original advice.

Instruction, not construction
Duh

'Many years' has been mentioned on a number of occasions - certainly not all related to just Harry.

OVienna Blind Gossip: "The Enemy Diaries."

Dandy yes I get that about the advisors. The big ideas - half in and half out- has to come from the couple. But on the PR front they will also be looking for max impact. The "collaborate" is a cultural gaff.

I would love to know how the discussions with these advisors went.

Dandy on the lawyer front with these cases that have been mentioned I do think the strategy has to be driven by the lawyer. They may be insisting on proceeding I guess. But they've hired the sort of people who wouldn't sue the Daily Mail just because someone told them to. The DM case seems mad to me on multiple levels.

Cultural gaffe or not, surely Harry should have known better than to allow something to go out mentioning their intent to "collaborate" with the Queen, ffs!!! Who do they think they ARE???

OVienna, I've also read (either on BG or Crazy Days & Nights) that Meghan wants to drop the lawsuit with the Mail, but that they're keen for it to go ahead so they can have their day in court.

I think it’s entirely possible William told Harry to go slowly with Meghan. They didn’t know each other that well or long & lived on different continents. That was the cause of any breach I think as neither H or M it seems likes advice. Bit like teenagers who think they know everything & in reality very little

Completely agree the collaborate is a cultural gaffe. But we don’t know who wrote it. It’s believable to me that Meghan instructed that particular part of the wording, with Harry’s approval. It’s an Instagram/social media/lifestyle influencer word, and that is her forte, her lexicon.

I think the 'many years' including Meghan is the kind of thing you often see after marriage where a couple start to use 'we' very consciously, rather than being strictly true. The 'many years' is more (in my view) about Harry. I can imagine that for years he might have entertained a vague fantasy about going off on his own but had no idea how he would actually do it, or wasn't motivated enough on his own to put ideas like being an African tour guide into practice. Meghan as a much more driven person, used to planning her own future, was the catalyst, but then as an inevitable result of that, it's a future she has chosen and shaped, whereas Harry seems to be more along for the ride.

Well, of course if it's a cultural gaffe it's most likely to have come from Meghan (and/or her team) as the American half of the unit. But Harry should have known better how it would be a no-no in royal /British circles.

Buttery yes - Harry is caught in Meghan’s orbit and she is taking them places.