Prince Andrew 'fails to cooperate' with FBI

[CathyorClaire]

www.thesun.co.uk/news/10832298/prince-andrew-provides-zero-cooperation-after-fbi-ask-to-interview-him-over-epstein-links/

No surprise there, then.

Do we think he'll hold out for the threatened subpoena or will the renewed public spotlight mean he jumps before he's pushed?

I too am disgusted with how the Queen is handling this; she should have made him co-operate, and not just post- his interview but ages who when he was first asked to.

But I’m not surprised at all that she hasn’t and that he’s still refusing, the coward. He’s been protected up to this point in time. Him giving evidence is likely to be very damaging - either he reveals what he know, which is possibly A LOT, or he denies any knowledge or involvement in the face of evidence that suggests the contrary.

I really hope the Royal Family is on the way out. The British values they appear to uphold are not my values.

I agree bubbles and we need to do a straight swap.

'The Queen has been completely lacking in judgement, at best, by supporting this individual.'

She is not coming out of this well, and that is putting it mildly

The tragedy is that this proves once and for all that society is more worried about what a black woman says than what a white man does, even when what he’s doing is hobnobbing with a nonce.

This should be a huge news story, but I’m sure it won’t be.

Maybe they can press some charges against P.A and we can decide whether or not he needs to extradited. Personally I would just send him Wuhan to console the Brits the FO aren't helping at all .
Poor Harry was plowed down on the wrong side of the road and the USA is bullying us and abusing Diplomatic privilege.
If I was his lawyer I would have told him to keep his trap shut and hi head down and until there was an extradition request on the table not to budge...maybe he's finally taken some advice....what's for sure he doesn't interview well !!!😂

I'm really disappointed with the Queen, after everything she has sacrificed for crown & country, why HRH allows this to continue and smear the last few years of her reign & life is beyond me.

I thought HRH was made of far tougher stuff, her son is sexual predator, who, if he had nothing to hide would take part willingly to clear his name. This is a bad judgement call all round & one that can't be swept under the rug.

Ok but it says in the article that andrew is going to do the interview? So why are they saying he has refused? Sounds like he has refused to go to them

Any one want to do quid pro quo? Swap a prince for that murderer?

Anne Sacoolas or no Anne Sacoolas, the FBI and Sing Sing are welcome to that dirty old pervert His Royal fucking Highness.

The Queen needs to hand him over.

''favourite son'' or not.

Ok but it says in the article that andrew is going to do the interview?

I think they're referring to the public promises he made at the time of his TV car crash.

I've said for a while we should be swapping PA for Anne Sacoolas. It's a bit disingenuous to cite non co-operation in one case when there seems very little will to co-operate in seeing justice done in another serious instance.

It's possible to hold opinions on H&M and also PA. Doesn't make me a hypocrite.

Harry and Meghan, I have opinions yes, but, PA, I want the Queen to hand him over to the FBI. So, different leagues.

The story's leading the Mail, the Times, the Guardian and the Telegraph online, and it's on the BBC homepage too.

I'm not really sure on what grounds people think this story's not getting enough attention?

If Andrew had sex with the woman who is accusing him no law was broken, as I understand it. She was of age to consent in the UK.

What exactly do the FBI want, does anyone know?

Is is just a fishing expedition?

We dn't know.

BP are saying it's all in the hands of the lawyers, and they'll not be making further comment.

FBI haven't said how much time has passed since they sent the questions, so not clear to if they're posturing or if PA's team is foot dragging

@DandyAndFine

This conversation is an important one to have, don’t fuck it up because you’ve got a bitter bee in your bonnet about how MM is discussed

While I wouldn't have put it like that, I do agree.

On so many threads re Meghan & Harry there have been moanings and groanings about "Why aren't you all complaining about Andrew? He's the bad egg!".

Yes, he is.

So why waste this thread with constant mentions of MM.

Let's keep Andrew in sight.

If Andrew had sex with the woman who is accusing him no law was broken, as I understand it. She was of age to consent in the UK

She wasn't of consenting age in the place where some of the sexual encounters are alleged to have occurred, and she further alleges she was trafficked.

I imagine the FBI want to know what the odious PA knows; and I hope they subpoena his personal protection officers from that time, too.

There really is no reason for PA to cooperate with the FBI. In fact, he would be utterly crazy to do so. I can’t imagine any lawyer would advise him to talk to them or visit the US now or in the foreseeable future.

A subpoena would be more about making a point, I think. There is no way they could enforce one against PA. But, PA has retired from royal duty now so I doubt he cares too much about public opinion of him.

She wasn't of consenting age in the place where some of the sexual encounters are alleged to have occurred, and she further alleges she was trafficked.

AutumnCrow We’re talking specifically about Virginia Roberts having sex with Prince Andrew. She alleges they had sex 3x, the first time in London when was 17 -so above the UK age of sexual consent - and again a year or so later on Epstein’s island when she was 18 - the age of sexual consent in the US Virgin Islands.

It’s possible that Prince Andrew has sex on Epstein’s island with girls who were under 18, but there’s been no evidence by a named person of that.

He absolutely must know things about Epstein and may have known V Roberts was trafficked, but that doesn’t mean he’s a child rapist as alleged above. He may well be, but we don’t know for a fact so can’t say so categorically, unlike with Epstein.

If Andrew had sex with the woman who is accusing him no law was broken, as I understand it. She was of age to consent in the UK

But she didn’t consent, did she? She was trafficked. That is the whole point of the scandal. If he’d had sex with some random UK teen he’d picked up in a club, I’d think he was a sleazy predator but would agree that he probably hadn’t broken any laws.

Having sex slaves flown around the world to have sex with you against their will is illegal whatever age they are. Or do you think all those Eastern European women in brothels shipped over in lorries are there totally by choice and are loving every minute of it? This is just the high price tag end of the market.

When JE and GM met her, she was a vulnerable, white trash 14 year old from a very deprived background who had been in and out of foster care and had previously been homeless. Perfect candidate for CSA. She was groomed, had her passport taken, and was flown around the world to have sex with random men at their behest. This was very obvious trafficking - there is no way that a 17yr old should be getting on a plane to London with an unrelated man in his 60s without red flags waving everywhere.

At last a thread that isn't about Megan and Harry! This is the real shocking Royal story that all that other none news was covering up.

I completely agree with ChristmasCarcass about the trafficking. As I said earlier, I personally believe her sex with PA was coerced. Even though that coercion was explicitly done by G Maxwell and possibly Epstein, it’s highly likely PA knew what was going on. So he quite probably did commit a crime, just not one of raping a child (by the legal definition), even if it amounts to rape per se.

I don’t agree with calling Virginia RE “white trash” though. Even though it’s a known descriptor it’s a horrible term. Working class or underclass even would work. Oh and let’s not forget that G Maxwell met her at Trump’s resort. It’s all completely vile. I hope PA gets done for his involvement but I agree with PP that on legal advice he won’t ever willingly co-operate with the FBI.