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The royal family

What happens when the queen dies?

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Bibs2014 · 13/01/2017 20:14

I know that. Harley's becomes king etc but what happens to the others? Will they be left money/homes/? Do they inherit anything? Is the queen allowed to leave them royal 'stuff'?

Might be a bit random but I just thought of it Grin

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NapQueen · 14/01/2017 00:31

I think the Queen has a real fondness for Zara and for Lady Sarah Chatto so I wouldn't be surprised if she leaves one of her properties to each of them tbh. Zara married in Scotland didn't she? Just up from Holyrood, so maybe she will be lucky and get Balmoral?

I'm pretty sure Charles will keep Buckingham palace as his office rather than home, and open it up big time to tours and what not. It would make a killing.

Tartyflette · 14/01/2017 00:32

Actually I just looked up the QM's will and it appears the Palace went to court to try and keep it quiet and only eventually agrreed to release an 'outline' which is disgraceful.
She was worth an estimated 50-70 million!

Yesitsmeagain · 14/01/2017 00:32

Pippa Middleton will become wealthier than Kate when she marries that hedge fund bloke. Oh gosh, yes. You can tell that by the watches they wear. James Matthews is simply dripping rich and very yummy.

Yesitsmeagain · 14/01/2017 00:35

Pluto a bit of both. And the Church as well. At the time the CoE didn't recognise divorce. And obviously the Monarch is the head of the CofE.

TrustySnail · 14/01/2017 00:36

Was the issue with Edward that he was the direct heir, or is it just a change of the times that no one seems to care about Megan's situation like they cared about Wallis'?

I'd say a mixture of both. After all, Camilla is a divorcee (and technically so is Charles) - the marriage was controversial, but it took place.

TrustySnail · 14/01/2017 00:44

You can tell that by the watches they wear.

Ha ha! I wouldn't know a designer watch from an Argos one, so I'll take your word for it Grin.

umizoomi · 14/01/2017 00:45

Prince Charles can choose any of his names to be his regal name.

When the Queen dies it will be horrendous. There will be an official mourning period of 12 days, it's likely that when the announcement is made everything will close (banks, stock exchange etc). The country will grind to a halt basically for days.

The coronation of the Queen was the same year her father died but it's unusual to be so fast.

Let not forget, The Queen is The Queen in the whole world. She has been on the throne as long as most can remember. It will be very very strange.

Pluto30 · 14/01/2017 00:49

Oh, I see. Smile

This royal stuff is bloody complex! I can't imagine the Queen no longer being there.

reuset · 14/01/2017 00:49

There will be 1346786 mumsnet threads titled 'the queen has died'

Oh yes there will!

TrustySnail · 14/01/2017 00:56

The country will grind to a halt basically for days.

Perhaps I'm cynical, but I doubt this. Corporate types won't let it happen. My guess would be there'd be one day of national mourning for the funeral, a public holiday, and that would be it.

I agree the media impact would be terrific - on a par with the days following the Brexit result. And yes, zillions of threads on forums, and endless twitter spats between republicans and monarchists ...

Yesitsmeagain · 14/01/2017 01:02

The coronation of the Queen was the same year her father died but it's unusual to be so fast.

The Queen's ascension and her coronation were about 16 months apart. I think that was quite slow relative to past monarchs.

GimmeeMoore · 14/01/2017 01:05

Grind to a halt for Days?no.things still need done.one day holiday,likely.
There'll group behaviour,conspicuous grieving,dripping schlocky sentiment.for some
Rest of us will just get on with it.silent nonplussed majority.not the sobbing hand wringers

TrustySnail · 14/01/2017 01:13

Yesitsme Ah, thank you, I see!

"sister Kate's 'entry level' watch, a gift from William, is worth just £4,850"

Entry level watch? The mind bogglesConfused.

icyfront · 14/01/2017 01:17

The problem of a second coronation in Scotland has long been avoided by use of the Stone of Scone (pronounced Scoon, which adds to the debate about how the food item is pronounced). That’s what the Scots traditionally used in the coronation of Scottish monarchs. It’s placed under the coronation throne in Westminster Abbey, and therefore satisfies the requirement of a Scottish coronation. It was famously “abducted” in 1950, and taken back to Scotland, allegedly in a VW Beetle.

I doubt the banks etc will close down at all. Life was different back when King George died; these days, any interruption to the economy would have serious effects. Systems are put in place for a Bank Holiday, but everyone knows in advance when those are.

TrustySnail · 14/01/2017 01:28

I doubt the banks etc will close down at all.

I think there'll be one day - there was an extra Bank Holiday for William and Kate's wedding, and another for the Jubilee. There'll be a huge amount of public pressure, and the large companies will have some sort of contingency plan - in every bank etc. there'll be a 'project team' hidden away somewhere using it to justify their existence.

London is sure to come to a standstill for the funeral, anyway - there'll be crowds attending - security will be on ultra red-alert - so small hope of people in the capital being able to get into work.

BillSykesDog · 14/01/2017 02:11

Someone mentioned monarchs who've changed their names but there were 3. They missed off Queen Victoria whose real name was Alexandrina.

Someone also suggested James as a name for royal children. James is the biggest no no of all names for royal children because James II was deposed then there was a long line of 'Jacobean' (as in James) Catholic pretenders to the throne. Charles was similar but not quite as bad but the Queen and Phil chose it anyway.

Balmoral and Sandringham are the Queen's personal property which caused big problems with the abdication. When Edward VIII abdicated all crown property was diverted to George VI. But as Balmoral and Sandringham were left personally by George V to Edward VIII as his eldest son he still owned them and they did not pass to George VI. There was wrangling over them for years and Edward VIII effectively used them as a means of blackmail to extract huge amounts of money from George VI despite the fact he has left the country with the equivalent of £25 million capital plus a £625,000 a year tax free allowance in today's money. Greedy fucker wanted more and used Sandringham and Balmoral to get it.

BillSykesDog · 14/01/2017 02:17

And the Queen will lie in state in Westminster Hall not Buckingham Palace. There is some argy bargy going on at the moment because the Houses of Parliament are supposed to be closing down for renovation and their business temporarily moving elsewhere for several years. Someone pointed out that in that case there would be nowhere for the Queen to lie in state and contingency plans are being put in place.

We didn't even get one day off when the Queen Mother died. I suspect a lot of places will close on the day she dies and we'll get a day off for the funeral but that's it.

CrazyCavalierLady · 14/01/2017 02:33

Surely in this day and age you won't be shutting everything down? I realise Brits are quite fond of your Queen but in today's technological times and with the speed of business transactions, closing businesses for days at a time is financial suicide.

I'm also somewhat Confused and Shock that the linked article suggests the world will mourn to the extent it did for Lady Di. Much of her appeal internationally was that she wasn't royal, just a nice girl who married well and bought some "realism" to the role. The Queen seems a decent old duck (though a terrible mother) who does a good job, such as it is, for her country. I'm not sure she'd be much of a loss to the rest of us TBH and less so the longer she lives due to the decline of the baby boomers who are possibly more invested.

It's always sad when decent "world leaders" pass but outside of their own country I'm not sure it's such a big deal

Pluto30 · 14/01/2017 03:04

I'm also somewhat confused and shock that the linked article suggests the world will mourn to the extent it did for Lady Di.

You have to remember how much of the world is still part of the Commonwealth, though.

Diana's death was sad for different reasons. That doesn't negate the sadness of the Queen's passing, whenever it happens.

mathanxiety · 14/01/2017 03:10

FrancisCrawford, is it possible the nice blue of the Seal of Scotland's cushions is the same blue as the Saltire?

SenecaFalls · 14/01/2017 03:31

It would depend on the terms of the Instrument of Abdication - Edward VIII renounced the throne for himself and his descendants

Actually it depends on an act of parliament. Edward could renounce on behalf of descendants not yet born, but he would not have been able to remove rights of a child of his who was already in the line of succession. An act of parliament determines the terms of an abdication.

Tezza1 · 14/01/2017 04:38

Stone of Scone (pronounced Scoon
Is that scoon like the beginning of the word "schooner"?

I've only ever heard it pronounced to rhyme with "stone" with a long o, or to rhyme with "on".

scaredoffallout · 14/01/2017 05:03

Let not forget, The Queen is The Queen in the whole world.

Erm - the whole world? Classic British grandiosity. Most of the world would barely notice as believe it or not, they do have lives of their own.

When the Queen dies it will be horrendous. There will be an official mourning period of 12 days, it's likely that when the announcement is made everything will close (banks, stock exchange etc). The country will grind to a halt basically for days.

No it won't.

I think it will be unsettling when she dies, but not "horrendous" or a tragedy.

Horrendous is the 7 year old killed by a 15 year old the other day, the wars that rage around the world, the hospices full of terminally ill people of all ages - not someone who at over 90 has had a good innings and a privileged life.

Yes she is a stable figure in our lives - our surrogate "mother" and "grandmother" in a sense as she has been around so long (though also at the head of the damaging class system), but she isn't Mandela or Gandhi. How much good has she done? IMO she is a figurehead who has done some charity work. She isn't exactly the warmest person around either and, with the exception of a few, her family are uninteresting chinless wonders.

Though her James Bond sketch in the Olympics opening ceremony was great Grin.

whyohwhy000 · 14/01/2017 05:21

The main BBC presenters have to have black suits and ties ready. They also practice what they would say if the Queen died.