What happens when the queen dies?

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I know that. Harley's becomes king etc but what happens to the others? Will they be left money/homes/? Do they inherit anything? Is the queen allowed to leave them royal 'stuff'?

Might be a bit random but I just thought of it

From what I understand the new king will style himself 'Charles, the third of his name' and will set a dragon on Nigel Farage.

I can't imagine cinemas shutting between the death and the funeral.

I guess shops may well shut on the day of the funeral? A lot of shops shut on the morning of Diana's funeral. Can't remember if the big supermarkets did but I remember I wanted to go climbing and needed new rock boots and Outside in Hathersage was closed!!!

If I was him, I'd be King Arthur

Diana apparently met a lot of resistance over the name William.

I don't think this is true. There have been four King Williams already, including the fellow who started this whole line of Norman monarchs.

The monarch can choose any regnal name; it doesn't have to be one of his or her names. Charles could call himself King Kevin if he wanted to.

It was a long time ago that it was reported that he might choose George and I think that was something he said to please his grandmother. His reign is likely to be a relatively short one and he has been known so long as Charles. I doubt he will choose a different name.

Charles also seems keen on keeping the amount of Royals on the civil list as small as possible. He is fighting against the York girls living off the state. He may be better than we expect.

I'm picturing (Charles) in leathers

Oh god, did you have to??!!!!

Then again, he's on record as wanting "to live inside Camilla's trousers" and who knows what they were made of?

Of course you're right, Gaspode, how could I suggest such a ludicrous thing?

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The monarchy has been about a heck of a long time and in general has done the country no harm. I'd rather have a monarch who has been raised with dignity and to put country first than the uncertainty of a President - Donald Trump - will be a wonderful head of state!

Yes, I think he will be better than we think. I suspect Wills will be the one to keep an eye on. Charles does seem keen to keep the monarchy to a minimum and cut it down. Wills seems a bit too keen on the perks to me, while not taking much responsibility.

Wanting to be her tampax if I remember right (so not envy)

Am I the only person on MN who was alive when King George VI was on the throne.

I was. The coronation is the first thing that I remember seeing on TV. I was quite young, but it is a very vivid memory. In fact it may have the thing that sparked my interest in British history, which I later did a degree in.

I saw a program about George the V, the Queen's grandfather. He was dying, but of course it's unpredictable when the last moment will come. So his doctor finished him off with a huge dose of morphine in the wee hours of the morning. They were afraid that he would linger on past the print deadline for the Times but then die later in the day. In which case his death would have been announced in the afternoon newspapers and apparently they were too down market to be allowed carry such important news.

The Queen wasn't born into the same position in the succession as Princess Beatrice. When Beatrix was born both William and Harry were born so she was the fifth in line to the throne. The Queen was the third in line and with her uncle being unmarried she was likely to be his heir.
People go on about how she was only Queen because Edward VIII abdicated but she would still have been Queen if he hadn't as he had no children. She just wouldn't have become Queen till 1972.

Wills is still young. I think that there is (understandably) lots of bitterness there because of his mum. I think he will mature. I know I see many things differently now I am officially middle aged.

But if Edward had married someone other than Wallis, he might have had children. But you are right that it was not all that far-fetched that she would one day succeed. Evidently George V pondered that possibility when Edward/David was spending so much of his time gallivanting around with older married women.

Wanting to be her tampax if I remember right

Yes, you remember right

I'm not so sure either about the approval for him supposedly wanting to slim the monarchy down ... isn't it possible he just wants to keep most of the attention and perks for himself?

Wanting to be her tampax if I remember right

Yes, you remember right

I remember commentators speculating at the time that that particular transcript would be going through everyone's heads during Charles's coronation.

I'm no monarchist, but I thought Charles was treated rather harshly there - I'm sure most people have said equally silly things during intimate conversations with a lover.

Having read tft to post 136, and reluctant to refresh because it'll take an age on my iPad, no-one has yet mentioned that there will be two coronations in the UK. And Lizzie isn't "universally" known as QE11, she's Elizabeth, Queen of Scots north of the border.

Charkes will be king, but not because as the media reports he wants to be, as irrelevant of camillas feelings of she would rather he didn't and prefers her life as it is, William does not yet want to be king.

I have a close friend, who has been involved in social events from when both Harry and Willian were young teens and Charles was there, in fact she's been at events where she has ushered them drunk out the back door to avoid media attention, and she tells me their relationship is very, very close, closer than the media shows, between Charles and his sons.

Charles will be king for the one and only reason William is not yet ready to be king and has no desire to be king. Charles will do it for his son. If William was ready to be king, Charles would step back and live his life happily with camilla, as he is not, Charles will take the mantle, but as said, not because that's what he demands, but for the reason WIlliam wants more time,

According to Terry Pratchett this is what happens

“The only thing known to go faster than ordinary light is monarchy, according to the philosopher Ly Tin Wheedle. He reasoned like this: you can't have more than one king, and tradition demands that there is no gap between kings, so when a king dies the succession must therefore pass to the heir instantaneously. Presumably, he said, there must be some elementary particles kingons, or possibly queons that do this job, but of course succession sometimes fails if, in mid-flight, they strike an anti-particle, or republicon. His ambitious plans to use his discovery to send messages, involving the careful torturing of a small king in order to modulate the signal, were never fully expanded because, at that point, the bar closed."

TREASON!!! To the tower with op.

Puzzledandpissedoff I think he realises that the country do not want to pay for a massive royal family. Let's be honest, we will never bump into the York girls in the local job centre. They have more than enough money to live comfortably for life and will probably marry husbands with their own money.

I think Charles 'means well'. Obviously he can't know what real life is like for the rest of us but I think he does try.

If a genie in a bottle offered to swap me into being heir to the throne I would turn it down. A life in the spotlight, every devision up for public scrutiny, my children being one of the biggest terrorist targets and spending my life listening to or making speaches whilst opening hospitals and schools . Nope, I would rather struggle to pay my mortgage every month and keep my life private thanks. You can keep your gilded cage.

When did it get announced that he would call himself George?

At 20.38 on mumsnet

😂😂😂 I just woke my dh up laughing at that hahahaha.

Only one Coronation, in Scotland it was a service of National a Thanksgiving.

And she was crowned Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. There may be separate styles in use (another example is when she's Duke of Normandy) but she's Liz Two formally for the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth.

There was quite extensive deliberation between accession and coronation leading up to the decision to do it like that.

(But I should have said globally, not universally unless aliens are moving among us, in lizard or other form)

There was a story about him instructing one of his girlfriends (in his young bachelor days) to call him "Arthur" in bed.