What happens when the queen dies?

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I know that. Harley's becomes king etc but what happens to the others? Will they be left money/homes/? Do they inherit anything? Is the queen allowed to leave them royal 'stuff'?

Might be a bit random but I just thought of it

There were a lot of rumblings that Prince John had been affected by the 'unlucky' name. But again, a fifth son who was unlikely ever to inherit.

Wasn't there a poor little prince john with a disability born to George Vth? and they just kept him in a cottage with a carer for years?

They believe he had epilepsy and possibly autism as well. He was ten or eleven before he went to the cottage at Sandringham.

Although the more recent tv things seemed to suggest he'd been there his whole life he was a regular part of photo calls and family events until his epilepsy worsened.

Edward VII and Alexandra's youngest who died shortly after birth was Alexander John as well.

And Queen Mary was devastated when he died. Edward VIII wasn't and wrote some horrible letters calling him no better than an animal, but the rest of the family were very fond of him and did see him. His siblings only stopped seeing regularly him because he was so ill it became upsetting. He actually spent Christmas at Sandringham with his family a few weeks before he died.

it is interesting here in Australia - all discussion of a republic is basically shelved until after the Queen dies. However I think when that happens there will be a huge wave of nostalgia and 'let Charles have a go, he's waited long enough' so I think we will miss the moment.

I think Malcolm's republic referendum will remain a pipe dream. Love for the royals is higher now than it was in the 90s.

BillSykes Am I right in remembering he only went to Wood Farm when his siblings went off too boarding school?

"Love for the royals is higher now than it was in the 90s."

Not in my circles, the only people I know who show the slightest interest are baby boomers. If the Queen lasts another 10-20 years as is suggested on this thread, there won't be many of them left to care either.

Not in my circles, the only people I know who show the slightest interest are baby boomers. If the Queen lasts another 10-20 years as is suggested on this thread, there won't be many of them left to care either.

The only people I know who don't like the royals are Greens voters which is fairly standard.

The only people I know who don't like the royals are Greens voters which is fairly standard.

I'm not sure I know anyone who votes Green except for my daughter's partner who was raised in Byron on a commune I certainly don't know anyone who would admit to voting Green! Smile]

"And all these wives guilty of adultery"

Anne Boleyn probably wasn't (according to Alison weir, many of the suggested dates she was with one of her co defendants, she was physically elsewhere or recovering from birth or miscarriage).

Katharine Howard probably was, and definitely in words if not deeds, but she was also extremely young and pitiable

raised in Byron on a commune

Sounds about right!

I'm going be seeing a picture of prince Charles in leather all morning now. Thankfully I've just eaten my breakfast 😂😭

The only people I know who don't like the royals are Greens voters which is fairly standard.

Not only!

Though I must admit I always thought the forelock tugging royalists were Daily Mail/Express/Telegraph readers.

Bill, Yes it suited Henry to 'go along' with it so that he could marry Jane.

I think Malcolm's republic referendum will remain a pipe dream. Love for the royals is higher now than it was in the 90s.

Is it really? I hope Charles will cure that, and quickly

Katherine Parr survived him and he actually tolerated a lot of dubious religious activity on her part which was technically treason.

She had to suppress her religious convictions eventually. Henry tolerated it only to a point then took action.

See this is why I like Mumsnet. A lovely thread where we are all musing, daft thing about what might be, becomes a historical debate. Proper educayshun that is.

I have a vague memory that some of H8's behaviour and symptoms were put down to syphillis?? Sure someone will know.

That's a theory. Kell's disease also a theory.

Can I recommend History club? Long running HVIII thread.

Oooh, I didn't know about that forum thanks Helen.

The syphillis one has been debunked, but the Kell's is a new one to me and an interesting theory.

There's also a theory that KoA failed reproductively as she was anorexic, which manifested itself as religious fasting. And Anne Boleyn possibly because she was Rhesus negative so could only have a successful first pregnancy.

The Queen won't allow any DNA testing to confirm these things or things like the identity of the princes in the tower. Which brings us back to the original subject which is that possibly when she dies Charles may rethink this and allow DNA testing of royal remains. Possibly not though. Any surprises re parentage could weaken the monarchy if it was found they had no genetic link to earlier royals.

I suspect the results of the Richard III DNA testing will have added to the caution as far as royal bloodlines go.

I usually vote green and am fascinated by the royals.

They are not entirely opposed to DNA testing to solve historical mysteries. Prince Philip provided DNA to help identify the remains of the family of Tsar Nicholas in Russia.

The only people I know who don't like the royals are Greens voters

A bit ironic, perhaps, in view of the pretence Charles makes around green issues?

That was never going to have an impact on the British throne, though, was it Seneca? I think that's the difference.

The identity of the bodies found in the tower won't have an impact either, nor will Richard III's guilt or innocence. The current queen is not his descendant.

For all your Henry VIII needs:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/history_club/1572449-Henry-VIII-eh-What-a-bastard?msgid=66247362#66247362