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Tales and Tails and NMCs - the Excellent Cats March On

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TheShellBeach · 17/01/2024 11:10

Join us as 2024 starts and our cats continue to run our lives for us.

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 23/01/2024 12:04

@CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau Tuxedo just means black and white mog - originally American usage but seems to have spread.

Never had a black and white cat. As the archetypal moggy, one is definitely on my bucket list 😁

YesItsMeIDontCare · 23/01/2024 12:45

@CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau - you'll also see SIC or Standard Issue Cat which is a tabby (usually brown tabby) mog.

Voids are black 😁 🐈‍⬛

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 23/01/2024 12:47

Thanks for the answers! I’d worked out void, but within the weirdly high count of posts on Reddit asking what breed someone’s cat probably is (if you don’t know, it’s probably a moggy) there are a lot of guesses of “tuxedo”.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 23/01/2024 12:54

YesItsMeIDontCare · 23/01/2024 12:45

@CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau - you'll also see SIC or Standard Issue Cat which is a tabby (usually brown tabby) mog.

Voids are black 😁 🐈‍⬛

You learn something new every day.
Never heard the term SIC in this context before.
Thanks.

TheShellBeach · 23/01/2024 13:46

Can I just say here that I loathe Reddit.
It's so anti-women.

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CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 23/01/2024 14:10

It is, isn’t it! I’ve been on for about a week or maybe a fortnight and when I’ve ventured off threads about cats and Harry Potter I’ve been absolutely steamrollered by how misogynistic and nasty some bits are.

ShoutyCatSlave · 23/01/2024 14:19

I'm (hopefully) in the process of acquiring a fluffy tuxedo mog as a NMC! 😀. Agatha doesn't actively hate him (assumed sex as the cat is a lot larger than her). He has come into the kitchen a few times, but only to try and eat her biscuits. He comes to the cat flap and cries for her. Very skittish with me so far. I'm not feeding him, but have left fresh water outside for him if he needs it - he looks a bit worse for wear, but think it was from a fight. He's getting better. I figure it's a bit safer than her trying (and failing!) to make friends with the foxes...

YesItsMeIDontCare · 23/01/2024 16:00

TheShellBeach · 23/01/2024 13:46

Can I just say here that I loathe Reddit.
It's so anti-women.

Dunno, I only look at cat stuff 😂

Tales and Tails and NMCs  -  the Excellent Cats March On
CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 23/01/2024 16:04

@YesItsMeIDontCare that’s what I always think! That and “why is it important”? If you need someone else to tell you the breed you’re not going to cat shows and you’re not making any money with its kittens.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 23/01/2024 16:43

Yes love your diagram - brilliant. 👍

Supersimkin2 · 23/01/2024 17:54

I like a ruff tuff street fightin’ mog, me. And all the other cats.

Not a fan of kitten trafficking. Rescues all the way here, but one day I would love to care for a kitten from his or her earliest days.

I wonder if Prince might too…

Allergictoironing · 23/01/2024 18:31

Plenty of kittens needing homes in rescues Lana - kitten season starts properly in another month or so and at Rolvenden they already have 2 young mothers with kittens ready to go now. I know both the mothers have been reserved, but there's at least 2 sibling kittens looking for a home... (hint hint hint)

YesItsMeIDontCare · 23/01/2024 19:15

Having had kittens I really don't think I could do it again 😁

I absolutely adore other people's kittens though 🥰

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 23/01/2024 19:25

Over the years I've taken on one ruff tuff street fightin’ mog (my first cat) and nine kittens.
Bloody love a kitten me 🤣

RumNotRun · 23/01/2024 19:38

@Supersimkin2 have you read the thread about weird shit cats have brought home to their owners? There were at least two cats on there who had brought their owners a kitten. The original owners were never traced so the cats (and their owners) got to keep their stolen kittens.

Basically you need to train an adult cat to go and steal you a kitten.

RumNotRun · 23/01/2024 19:41

I had to ask the cat rescue I support to put me on the banned list as every time I went to one of their fundraising events I'd end up with more kittens. I also had to stop looking at their FB cause the temptation was too strong, especially when there was a kitten who no one had adopted. I ended up with 9 cats at one point and my friends nearly held an intervention 😁

upanddowns · 23/01/2024 19:43

I'm currently fostering an elderly cat who's owner couldn't look after her anymore. She's been living practically alone for over a year, so it's going to take a long time to win her trust. I'd say she's practically feral. She's a beautiful tabby. I hope she'll get used to me eventually. There's only me at home and it's very quiet, so I hope she'll feel safe.

Attaching the only photo I have.

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YesItsMeIDontCare · 23/01/2024 21:02

Oh bless her upanddowns! She's a pretty girl 🥰 What's her name?

upanddowns · 23/01/2024 21:38

YesItsMeIDontCare · 23/01/2024 21:02

Oh bless her upanddowns! She's a pretty girl 🥰 What's her name?

She's called Tita 😊 I haven't actually been able to get near her yet. The photo was taken over puppy cctv. Any tips to help her feel happier and to trust me are very welcome.

Allergictoironing · 23/01/2024 21:47

She's very pretty, but looks rather on the skinny side? Though may just be the angle of the picture.

All 3 of mine have been shy/anxious cats when they've come home from the rescue. I just let them take things mostly at their own pace, and push their boundaries just a tiny bit now & again. And just keep chatting to them like you would any other person who lives in your house.

Tobias, the recent one, is a fairly good example. First couple of months there was aggressive hissing & swiping with full on claws if I got a hand within about a foot on him. So I would just go in that far every day until he got a little less worried. Gave him a few days of being OK with that, then started to move the hand in a little closer bit by bit - that was the stage when my hand was looking somewhat bloody & scarred for a while! But now I can offer him a hand within half an inch of his nose, without panic from him.

I also started to stand a little closer over time when he was eating his wet food; he's a fine trencherman (probably from his couple of years of being a stray) so he would be more interested in that than me. I've just finally got to the stage where I can stroke him near enough all over as long as he's eating his wet food. He's still a bit unhappy most of the time if I go in for a touch other than meal times, but the hissing is more a "please don't" than a "I'll rip you to shreds if you come any closer", and the swipe is more vaguely waving at me with the claws almost completely retracted.

Taken me 10 months to get this far, but I wanted to make sure he settled OK with Girlcat. And he's a rather different case having been a stray for around 2 years (most of his life) and your pretty girl has at least had some time being a proper pet. She has a look that suggests that at present she hasn't learned yet to trust you, but is prepared to reconsider over time.

YesItsMeIDontCare · 23/01/2024 21:48

Sit quietly with her, keep your hands upturned and slow blink at her.

And Dreamies. Lots of Dreamies. More than that 😁

Allergictoironing · 23/01/2024 21:51

YesItsMeIDontCare · 23/01/2024 21:48

Sit quietly with her, keep your hands upturned and slow blink at her.

And Dreamies. Lots of Dreamies. More than that 😁

Oh yes, I'm a great believer in bribery! And the slow blink does work, the first time she returns it you'll be floating on air.

Just take it slowly & quietly. Start with the Dreamies just by her hiding place & slowly move them a bit further from there & closer to you over days & weeks.

TheShellBeach · 23/01/2024 21:54

Basically you need to train an adult cat to go and steal you a kitten

Right.

I'll start training Linney to steal kittens tomorrow.

Grin
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TheShellBeach · 23/01/2024 21:55

@upanddowns Tita looks as though she isn't used to trusting anyone at the moment. She'll get there with patience and Dreamies.

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upanddowns · 23/01/2024 22:00

TheShellBeach · 23/01/2024 21:55

@upanddowns Tita looks as though she isn't used to trusting anyone at the moment. She'll get there with patience and Dreamies.

No she was alone for a long time, she'll need to learn to trust again. I have patience .. and Dreamies!

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