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The cat killer isn't real???

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serbska · 20/09/2018 14:01

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45588088

Apparently the cat killer isn't real? How is this?

I thought that there was something secret about the killings that was common to all (so they could be ID) and being kept back form the public (to prevent copy cats).

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serbska · 20/09/2018 14:51

@BertrandRussell foxes are normally clean killers, except if they get into something like a chicken house where there are many birds they can go into a killing frenzy and kill everything (normally by biting off the heads) but only take one bird away.

Different situation to a single rabbit being mutilated and left?

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serbska · 20/09/2018 14:53

Sorry you found one @makeorbreak1 :-(

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DaftCat · 20/09/2018 14:55

The one my friend found had clearly been cut with a a sharp object. The head and tail weren’t chewed or ripped off.
There’s another thread about this where the Op reckons that because the killer hasn’t [yet] killed a person, it’s ‘essentially harmless’. Aren’t people lovely?

HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 20/09/2018 14:56

Makeorbreak1 I am sorry that you had to witness such a horrible sight, I just wish there could have been justice at the end of it. So many families have suffered such a horrible end to their beloved pets lives and nobody seems to give a crap. Sad

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 20/09/2018 14:57

Hearsay, rumour, exaggeration. Glad it's been discounted

I take it you don't know anyone who's cat has been killed? I know one person and a friend of a friend also lost her cat, definitely not to a fox.

TeddyIsaHe · 20/09/2018 15:00

I’d love to know how a fox can bite a cat’s head off without leaving any teeth marks in the surrounding areas? Unless there’s a breed of fox with kitchen knives for teeth that I haven’t heard of.

Total bollocks to say it’s a fox. Wish they would just own up and admit they haven’t the time or funding to persue the case.

HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 20/09/2018 15:06

because the killer hasn’t [yet] killed a person, it’s ‘essentially harmless’. Aren’t people lovely?

People are so weird, they see it is just an animal and they think it doesn't matter because animals are beneath us superior humans Hmm.

The trouble is whoever is behind this is now thinking "great they think it is a fox, now when I kill a person as long as I do so in the same way they will also assume it is a fox that is responsible."

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serbska · 20/09/2018 15:10

Also I don't understand if it was foxes that did the mutilation post death - why couldn't the police rule that out ASAP because surely the cut of a knife and the cut of a fox tooth/jaw look different, and also there would be fox DNA all over the cuts? From fox saliva?

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brokenharbour · 20/09/2018 15:19

Some of them will have been foxes. But the ones that are left in the owners hedge on display? I don't think so. Maybe it's reverse psychology and they think it'll stop if there's no attention.

I did hear that it might be a gang initiation thing that's spreading. So not just one person. I don't know.

HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 20/09/2018 15:21

there would be fox DNA all over the cuts?

Conveniently they have now found Fox DNA on some of the animals, alongside previously undiscovered puncture wounds. It only took them 3 years of investigating and for the animals to be inspected by many people for it to be found but there's nothing even remotely suspicious about that. Hmm

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serbska · 20/09/2018 15:26

@HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone fox DNA and puncture wounds only now found and only on some of the animals?

Not entirely convincing for me.

Sad
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boingboingboom · 20/09/2018 15:33

Absolute bs. They found one of their "victims" by my house. That was a clean decapitation. No fox could have done that. I smell cover up from either a particularly well connected individual or to cover the fact there's some major issues with policing

HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 20/09/2018 15:41

Maybe it's reverse psychology and they think it'll stop if there's no attention.

That's a nice thought but isn't it more likely that the person/persons doing this are now thinking they have gotten away with it and so will continue to get braver with their crimes?

ScreamingValenta · 20/09/2018 15:41

This is the story (warning, it's upsetting) about the cat whose remains were put in a plastic bag. Surely there must have been human involvement for this to happen.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-41080531

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serbska · 20/09/2018 15:52

@ScreamingValenta is that one attributed to the cat killer tho? The report says it was set on fire which none of the others were?

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HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 20/09/2018 15:55

Surely there must have been human involvement for this to happen.

Exactly! Just because they have supposedly found that some of the cats have been hit by cars and then mutilated by foxes doesn't mean that there is no killer. Someone has clearly killed some of the cats and for the police to say all of the attacks were killed by foxes and not crimes is utterly nonsensical.

ScreamingValenta · 20/09/2018 15:56

It's listed as a linked case in this article, @serbska:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-42182698

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serbska · 20/09/2018 15:59

Thanks, will give that a read.

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Loopytiles · 20/09/2018 16:00

What are SNARL saying about it?

BellMcEnd · 20/09/2018 16:01

Utter utter bollocks. I know SNARL. There is NO WAY that this is foxes.

It’s all over the internet and pretty much everyone thinks the claim that it’s foxes is shite.

BertrandRussell · 20/09/2018 16:02

But there are always cruel, evil people who do horrible things. The cats in the article were certainly killed by such a person. That does not mean that the Croydon killer is real-apart from anything else the killings were very different to the others.

BellMcEnd · 20/09/2018 16:03

Statement from SNARL posted by them 3 hours ago

We are aware of the notification this morning by the Met Police that they are discontinuing Operation Takahe, due to new evidence that suggests the injuries to the cats are fox predation post- road traffic accident or other event.

As you can imagine, this morning’s announcement has come as a surprise and we will be taking advice on how to move forward.

We consider that the evidence we have gathered over the last three years does indicate human involvement and there is expert opinion to back this up. Over the last three years, we have discounted over 1500 incidents as non-human related.

The police have said that they will continue to investigate incidents where there is clear evidence of human involvement.

Our priority at the moment is the victim’s families and we will release a further statement in due course.

HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 20/09/2018 16:06

What are SNARL saying about it?

This is what they posted on Facebook this morning.

"We are aware of the notification this morning by the Met Police that they are discontinuing Operation Takahe, due to new evidence that suggests the injuries to the cats are fox predation post- road traffic accident or other event.

As you can imagine, this morning’s announcement has come as a surprise and we will be taking advice on how to move forward.
We consider that the evidence we have gathered over the last three years does indicate human involvement and there is expert opinion to back this up. Over the last three years, we have discounted over 1500 incidents as non-human related.

The police have said that they will continue to investigate incidents where there is clear evidence of human involvement.

Our priority at the moment is the victim’s families and we will release a further statement in due course."

Seems like they had no idea the announcement was coming.

Womaningreen · 20/09/2018 16:11

Speaking as someone who is fond of animals, vegan etc etc I would still rather hear the truth

If the truth is that the police don't have resources for this, they could say so. I worry that some cat owners might be less vigilant because they believe the police are right on this.

HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 20/09/2018 16:26

I worry that some cat owners might be less vigilant because they believe the police are right on this.

I'm hopeful that they will see it for the bullshit that it is but this is a very valid concern. Cats still died whilst they were being vigilant, not as many but it still happened, if people assume the killer is no longer a threat then many more could be victims.