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Feeling so trapped by my cats

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VroomOnTheBroom · 04/01/2015 08:02

I have three large fluffy pedigree cats, indoor only, and I'm starting to lose the plot. We have had them all from kittens. The 7 year old boy is handsome and well behaved but he sheds like a month-old Christmas tree (this is my fault I know, but I'm pregnant and have a toddler and I work, so something has to give and grooming is one of the losses). The 5 year old girl is sweet and affectionate but she scratches the furniture all to hell. I have those sticky strips on the bed, I keep long throws over the armchair to hide the legs and I have scratching posts round the place - but she still prefers the sofa/armchair/suitcases/foot of bed.

And the most upsetting one is the 5 yo boy who pees EVERYWHERE. No UTI that I know of. He started it about eight months old when we went away for a holiday, we came back to the flat stinking and our bed a lake of cat piss. We were in our 20s then, no kids and the cats slept on our bed. He started to do it every time he felt neglected. We were hungover and he was looking for cuddles? We would wake up to wet feet, mostly DH who is a heavy sleeper. It started being occasional but it's got worse and worse over the years. Now he's an opportunist. If I catch him in time he will run away and straight into one of the litter boxes (DH cleans the poo out daily and changes the litter weekly). He does it on soft furnishings, anything left on the floor (towels, bags, clothes) especially anything of my husband's. He's DH's cat so he craves attention from him more and punishes him when he doesn't get it - that's my theory. I've had to throw out several pairs of shoes, a couple of coats, countless hold-alls and suitcases. I am on my 3rd mattress in four years - the mattress protectors sometimes don't cover the edges well, or shrink in the wash, or leak, and the odour remover has its own odour and it's not pleasant to sleep on. Cats have been banned from the bedroom for the last 2-3 years because of this, but the door is usually open during the day - we are in an open plan flat and our ensuite has our bathroom so we are in and out during the day at home. He won't pee on the bed when we are at work during the day, but if I'm up seeing to our son and my husband is dozing or looking at his phone and not paying him attention, I often find the room stinking when I come back in. Last week after spending Christmas with my family I came home to find he's been using the bathroom sinks as a toilet - poo too, and not just the sink but peeing all over the countertop. At first I didn't know what had happened so I cleaned it up, and the next day caught him in the act again. He hasn't done it since though but in the meantime two bath mats are in the wash, and the single bed in my son's room has had to be stripped and the mattress treated with enzyme odour remover.

I'm so sick of hauling the bedclothes off my husband at 5am because I've been up with a baby and now I can't go back to bed because I have to put the bed linen in the machine. I'm so sick of my home smelling of cat pee and having to track down and work out what exactly has been urinated on this time by following my nose like a grossed-out bisto kid. I'm sick of losing comfortable shoes because I can't keep them by the door. I'm tired of not being able to have floor coverings - rugs and front door mats have all met the same fate. I've spent a fortune replacing sports bags and shoes and bedding.

I feel so trapped. He's only 5 and has a life expectancy of 16-20 years. I can't put down a healthy cat and he can't be rehomed with that behaviour, and I couldn't part him from his beloved twin sister either. I know he's my responsibility for the next 10-15 years. I feel so envious of other people's lovely clean, fragrant, unscratched, hair free homes. Of their black clothes that they don't have to constantly lint roll or dry clean because the volume of cat hair from 3 fluffy breed cats means black clothes look even worse coming out of the washing machine than they did going in.

The right number of cats for me would be one or none. We lost the girl recently and found her trapped in a cupboard after a brief scare. And all I could think was "why her? Why couldn't we lose Mr Pissy Pussy instead?" I would never do anything to further his demise but when I fantasise about leaving my husband so he could keep his two cats and I'd have my own well-mannered boy alone... I mean they are all "our" cats, just happened that over time one of the boys has attached himself to each of us and the girl goes with the younger male cat as they are close sibs.

I am at my wit's end. I don't know what to do.

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RubbishMantra · 04/01/2015 10:59

Litter doesn't need changing once a day as a pp said. Just the pee clumps and crap scooped out.

Pooka · 04/01/2015 11:04

Our cats stopped peeing round the house when I upped the number of litter trays.

In a multi cat household it's generally the rule that you should have a litter tray per cat plus one extra. We have three cats and can get away with three litter trays. Generally they are unused (!) because they go outside, but it means that if one of the cats is feeling stressy, there's somewhere theirs to pee and not on furniture.

Felliway diffusers also help.

RubbishMantra · 04/01/2015 11:08

Also, i love my cats to distraction, but I don't think you should feel bad about not seeing to their needs in the wee hours. Crikey, if I did what they wanted on demand I'd have no life whatsoever! Maybe they could do with a tad more structure - ie. stuff on your terms, not theirs'?

InanimateCarbonRod · 04/01/2015 11:10

Methe .... Gladly if it saved a life. Wtf is wrong with you ....

favouritewasteoftime · 04/01/2015 11:15

OP, I did a consultation with a cat behavioural specialist about a year ago and her advice really helped. Some of it was specific to my set-up but there was also a page of generic info on dealing with the urination issue (product recommendations, strategies etc.) that I can share with you, if you'd like.

Interestingly, after I booked my consultation (but before it actually took place) the cats' behavior improved without my taking any action. I mentioned this to the specialist and she told me that her clients often tell her the very same thing and that she thought the very fact that the owner feels lighter/happier/more upbeat at having taken a step to solve the problem had a positive impact on the cat and its behavior. Just thought that was interesting.

Also, it's worth remembering that the urinating (if it's not medical) is all about territory marking so if your cat is targeting your husband's towel etc. he's claiming him as his own.

Hakluyt · 04/01/2015 11:19

There are worse things that can happen to an animal than being PTS.

VroomOnTheBroom · 04/01/2015 12:18

He is definitely DH's cat. Self proclaimed. He's DH's, my boy is mine (I swear he thinks he's my first born and the others are just cats), and the girl is her own cat and answers to no one. DH is a fantastic hands-on dad but I'm sure the cat notices the drop-off of attention since DS came along.

Before I went back to work DS was in nursery 2 days a week and all 3 cats were so chilled out for those two days. Now I have been working for the last 5 months and they don't see us without him being around too...

I'll get more litter trays if you think that would help, but where to put them is a problem if I shouldn't put them together. There are 3 living spaces, one is the study (unused toilet) the kitchen/lounge (no toilet) and the front entrance (well-used toilet). Our bathrooms don't have floor space (think size of an understairs wc) and I don't want to put litter trays in the bedrooms. The cats tend to hang out where we are. Before DS was born that was the computer room, and that toilet/room got lots of use as we played pc games a lot so the cats hung out there, now DH really only uses his computer on weekends. Now it's kitchen/lounge and our bedroom and DS's room.

Everything is scooped out when we come home from work, fresh litter put in to replace used and a full change and tray scrub once a week.

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AlpacaMyBags · 04/01/2015 12:33

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Viviennemary · 04/01/2015 12:36

An indoor cat is a stressed cat IMHO. Cats aren't indoor creatures. They are nocturnal hunters. So their lifestyle is causing the stress.

VroomOnTheBroom · 04/01/2015 12:49

Just water and elbow grease and occasionally washing up liquid if the urine is strong smelling, I know cats don't like a lot of products so thought that might be ok.

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VroomOnTheBroom · 04/01/2015 12:50

It's just one cat as far as I can tell. I always seem to walk into the room just as his tail disappears out of it at top speed and there's a fresh yellow puddle on the bed. The others seem contented.

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AlpacaMyBags · 04/01/2015 12:52

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shelldockley · 04/01/2015 12:54

If space is a problem in the bathroom how about a corner litter tray? Best place to keep a litter tray to keep smells away! Also a nice litter to try is Pets at Home wood pellet one.

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002HY90X0/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_bBtQub0A1Q9K4

www.petsathome.com/shop/en/pets/cat-litter-21103--1/non-clumping-wood-pellet-cat-litter-30ltr?i=18&orderBy=3#

VroomOnTheBroom · 04/01/2015 13:07

Thanks everyone for your help. I've emailed the cat behaviourist and I've found another location for a cat toilet and ordered a new litter tray.

Wish us luck...

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HotLipsHoulihan · 04/01/2015 13:23

Yuk. And poor you.

This sounds like an intolerable situation. You are basically living in a cat toilet. It must be very unhygienic to say the least ( and yes I know you're cleaning it all )

It's the unpopular view but I know what I'd do

favouritewasteoftime · 04/01/2015 15:25

Good luck!

BerylStreep · 04/01/2015 15:52

good luck. I promised my breeder I would keep our 2 Burmese as indoor cats, but they thought otherwise. They are very happy being able to go outdoors, and I doubt if the contract with the breeder is enforceable - although it doesn't sound like you have any outdoor space anyway?

Our breeder also said that she would always take the cats back if there was ever a problem - might your breeder do the same?

9Bluedolphins · 04/01/2015 15:56

You may be able to find a new home for the older boy, if you advertise him as free to good home? That would ease the situation slightly.

VroomOnTheBroom · 04/01/2015 16:29

9Blue I understand where you're coming from but I'm not giving away my older cat who loves me and is happy with me to try and placate the younger male. He's both less good with strangers and more patient with my small boy than the other cat. Rehoming him would hurt us both (probably me more than him, he's very easygoing in general!) and I'm not sure I need any more reasons to resent the younger male.

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Booboostoo · 04/01/2015 18:06

I think you can deal with if you have a plan.
Get 4 litter trays, try one covered.
Feliway diffuser for the room and spry for the litter tray.
Clear urine areas with bleach and then use a specialist spray that discourages cats from peeing in the area.
If he is peeing on soft furnishings cover them with sheets of plastic.

VroomOnTheBroom · 04/01/2015 18:17

Sheets of plastic are a non starter I think because the problem is the bed when we are in it. And the rest of the stuff is quite unpredictable - the bath mat, or my husband's coat has slipped off the back of a chair onto the floor, or I've taken my wet and muddy boots off by the door and forgotten to put them away before going to bed.

However I am going to buy a pack of puppy pads, that might help direct it somewhere acceptable for a bit. Anything white on the floor seems to be a huge magnet. Maybe I could redirect those into a tray later. I'll see how it goes.

Uncovered litter trays are a problem with a curious two year old in the house. If the gate is open or we are in the entranceway it's sometimes only seconds before Thomas the Tank Engine tries to visit the gravel pits... And large sheets of plastic are obviously a hazard with toddlers running around!

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VroomOnTheBroom · 04/01/2015 18:18

But I will get several feliway diffusers. They haven't helped before, but can't hurt to try again.

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AdorableMisfit · 04/01/2015 18:24

Sorry if I'm asking a question that's already been answered, but I'm in the middle of making dinner so haven't got time to read all the previous responses right now. Is the cat that pees everywhere neutered? The reason I'm asking is that I've got a male cat who used to pee everywhere all the time until he was about 2 years old. He was an indoor cat then as we lived on a very busy road, so I hadn't had him neutered as he never went out. But in desperation, I decided to have him done to see if that would solve the peeing problem - and it DID, literally overnight. So if he hasn't been neutered, then that's something to consider trying.

Good luck!

VroomOnTheBroom · 04/01/2015 18:35

Hi Adorable, yes, all of my cats are neutered/spayed since about 6-7 months old.

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KareninsGirl · 05/01/2015 20:26

Sorry but why have you got all these cats in a flat with no access to the outside in a city centre.

cruel.

know this isn't a helpful post but people who get animals without thinking through whether it's fair to the pet or not really upset me.

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